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    Hi everyone- great forum here!

    I'm just wondering what you guys make to this: youtube video

    Really I'm referring to the first few minutes, it looks so simple it can't be true, but if it's not, how was it faked? I do see a cut in the video right before the thing starts to spin, so maybe he had a hidden battery on the back, but it does seem to be very responsive to the magnet.

    Even though it's probably a fake it's got my imagination running wild and is how I found this site

    Thanks!
    Last edited by wonza; 07-02-2012, 11:37 AM.

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    Welcome to the forum wonza

    Unfortunately simple trickery in the first.
    For one thing, the disk spins up far too quickly for any purely magnetic reaction. There is a cut, between when he actually shows the back of the unit and when he starts it up...big red flag there.
    A phenomenon called the gate would get in the way of any such rotation in any case...where even if magnets were cleverly aligned to create a faster and faster spin around the perimeter, when returning to the start there would be an opposite pole to get past. That pole is just as strong as any energies that would have been created by the sum of the others...the disk wouldn't get past it. And that's without any friction taken into account.
    Videos which show that effect are drum type rotors with a V shape of magnets. The V accelerates the drum, but, sure enough there is that gate back at the start.
    All he seems to have done, is learned that a motor can also be a generator and so played with those thoughts for a YouTube video. He simply powers the motor with DC, from thin wires running through the table.

    The guy with the water pump seems a different case. I've never fully yay'd or nay'd that one lol

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    • #3
      Thanks for the reply. I suspected as such, I've got a decent understanding in physics, but from reading this forum, there's lots of knowledgeable people here, so I look forward to learning more

      So you know about the water pump example? I'd be interested in looking into that more too

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      • #4
        Are this ones also fakes?

        magnet motor perpetual motion machine free energy - YouTube

        MAGNET MOTOR 6000 RPM BETTER QUALITY VIDEO.mp4 - YouTube

        selfrunning working permanent magnet motor , is it a Fake ? - YouTube

        Free Energy is real, Over Unity is completely Real...The Motion Perpetual Machine has always existed...We ALL have been screwed up for more than 130 Years...

        Sorry to tell you...

        Regards


        Ufopolitics
        Principles for the Development of a Complete Mind: Study the science of art. Study the art of science. Develop your senses- especially learn how to see. Realize that everything connects to everything else.― Leonardo da Vinci

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        • #5
          Personally, I don't know much about gravity fed systems...which is probably why i'm undecided on that example in the video.
          It does strike me though, that if water were needed for irrigation etc in a farm setting say, then running it through a well balanced generator while on its way would be a good idea. If the pump pressure started at say 25psi and came out onto the field at 20psi, what's the difference to the field ? In other words, if your standard mains line pressure is high anyway, use the extra to power stuff, en route to the end point.
          With clever nozzle designs, it may be envisaged that usable and useful gains could be made. Perhaps the lights in the operating room could be lit, as a freebie.

          Yeah, this forum is chockablock with useful information. In terms of energy saving tips, all is very valid to alert the mind to wasted energy in the home and elsewhere (why is a 1250W vacuum cleaner seen as more powerful and better than a 1000W...if the 1000W removes twice the dirt ? same thing with microwave ovens or light bulbs, simply numbers and scant regard to efficiency).
          How to use what you have more efficiently, recycling and novel uses of existing equipment too - not hairbrained chasing of kW of free power. The Joule Ringer thread is a good one to look at, or Bedini Earth Light.

          To add, having seen Ufopolitic's post above (great researcher btw) - it's about corporate greed and status quo. Not many make the connection between power and control and how we live our daily lives.
          Last edited by Slider2732; 06-25-2012, 07:28 PM.

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          • #6
            Well, I have a little disposable income, so I might just have to decide see for myself It's got to be pretty cheap to make something like this.

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            • #7
              Toroidal Generating Coils...

              Hello All,

              Thanks Slider, appreciate your opinion.

              One question, and a simple one...
              Have any of You seen a typical Market Generator Head with a Segmented Coils Toroidal Field for Output?

              The answer is no...you may have seen it in many Free Energy videos...or some patents, or books, or else...but not the ones that a Gas or Diesel engine is used as the Prime Mover...which are all the ones available right now.

              Why?

              Nikola Tesla, back in 1886 to 1910... patented must, I could say over a 95% of His Poly Phase AC Generators, Electrodynamic Machines, Motors, Transformers and "Apparatus"...Are all based on Independent, Pairs or Groups of Pairs-Coils, some wrapped around Toroidal Cores...

              A Toroidal Coil will project their magnetic field within their embodiment, and not towards the outer or inner rotating Stators...therefore, they will not offer any magnetic drag at all...however, they will get induced based on Faraday's ancient laws of induction...Where separated Coils, in a specific "momentum" of just "idling"...will not offer drag either, but will do output still...

              All Generators we all have...the generating fields are interconnected between them all...whether series or parallel...but connected...All this Generators have fields connected directly one to one, facing each others magnetic fields in every turn in perfectly symmetrical and direct angles...and it is completely understood that ...No Electrical Motor could ever, turn these huge dragging forces of symmetrical machines we were all forced to study...but a Gas or Diesel heavy horse power engine...


              I will be presenting very soon demonstrations of what am writing here, real proof, no BS, with the right explanations...I really hate fakes and hoaxers related to Free Energy, I consider we have been hurt for too long and too much...in order to make jokes, or laugh of all the hidden knowledge They have done for so many years to our planet and Us...


              Regards to all


              Ufopolitics
              Last edited by Ufopolitics; 06-25-2012, 08:28 PM.
              Principles for the Development of a Complete Mind: Study the science of art. Study the art of science. Develop your senses- especially learn how to see. Realize that everything connects to everything else.― Leonardo da Vinci

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              • #8
                Can't wait to see what you come up with!

                I've ordered the parts I need and will be posting my findings, whether success or not.

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                • #9
                  That's really good to hear wonza..and best wishes for your project. What is it you decided on by the way ?

                  Ufopolitics, I think I know what you are referring to...the containment of fields present in regular transformer type design. In a Tesla system the need for open output is often present, the requirement for energies not to be contained. That may mean losses, should mean losses, but apparently not !
                  Perhaps related (hopefully) and to demonstrate, would be a video I made some while ago. All types of coils were tried with a simple pulse motor - including toroidal ! I was of the opinion, from reading as much as possible that the fields shouldn't be there to run the motor, yet they were. Also, that several of the types shown shouldn't have had a ghost of a chance either.


                  Oddball coils running a pulse motor - YouTube

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                  • #10
                    I'm really just going to try and reproduce what I saw in some of those videos. I've bought some strong magnets, led's and a motor. I've ordered enough magnets to test various configurations.

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                    • #11
                      Tariel Kapanadze 9V Motor running a 1000W Gen

                      Tariel Kapanadze overunity motor 02 free energy - YouTube

                      If you look at video...will notice the Toroidal Coil around the end rear shaft of Motor...somewhere around middle...
                      This motor uses a 9V Battery...and lights Up a 1000 Watts Lamps...that the whole video becomes bright white...

                      Any "regular motor" would have burnt to crisp just in the start...

                      Regards


                      Ufopolitics
                      Principles for the Development of a Complete Mind: Study the science of art. Study the art of science. Develop your senses- especially learn how to see. Realize that everything connects to everything else.― Leonardo da Vinci

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                      • #12
                        Everything I ordered came last night, and I glued the magnets to the lid, like in the first example in that clip. I've left it overnight to set and will try when I get home from work later on.

                        I couldn't seem to get more than 4 magnets on that lid though, as they were too powerful and would have moved out of the glue if I put anymore on. Hopefully that won't affect the outcome, good or bad.

                        Either way, I've quietly been reading many other posts on this forum and trying to learn more about what you're all saying. Very interesting and exciting stuff going on!

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                        • #13
                          Well, I set it up like you see in the first video and as I expected it didn't work. I'm still determined to disprove/prove the other that UFO posted though. As that looks much more authentic. Plus I'm having fun so no one gets hurt, other than me almost super gluing my fingers together

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                          • #14
                            Original

                            Interestingly I found the original video which does not have the cut right before he shows the motor working. I may try it again with the N/S of my magnets turned the other way.

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                            • #15
                              Hey Wonza...

                              Originally posted by wonza View Post
                              Original

                              Interestingly I found the original video which does not have the cut right before he shows the motor working. I may try it again with the N/S of my magnets turned the other way.
                              Hello Wonza,

                              There is a crazy glue component that actually is a Catalyst to accelerate the drying proces to much less time...it is a spray..3M makes it, and you could find it in Automotive Paint Suppliers...You could also find there another component sold in a small box...name:Q-Bound, it contains two small bottles of kind of a sand. one gray, one black...black is ferrite. gray is aluminum and other powder compounds , Gray do not transmit electrical flow...black does, they both catalyzes also when you drop the crazy glue that comes with it...smoke comes out...and becomes a solid piece.
                              Now you must sand the magnets first, on the face to be glued, taking off the ceramic, the factory mold separator...

                              All magnets should be facing outwards the wheel at same polarities in Rotor, say North...Now, the alignment must be "religiously" at exact angles to be interacted with the one you will approach (Stator)...never facing forward yours in a straight line with the rotor ones...and approach must be very slow, till you see magnetic fields are interacting (starting to move wheel)...
                              What you will be trying to do is to go in the "in between" at "off phase" with their magnetic fields...and it is understood, if all rotor magnets N Poles are facing outwards...your stator North will be also facing outwards towards them, so you will be just using the repulsion of all the magnetic fields...attraction will stop device.

                              Hope you could do it better now...and be careful with crazy glue...and stay away from vapors of catalysts reactions...

                              Regards and good luck!


                              Ufopolitics
                              Last edited by Ufopolitics; 06-29-2012, 07:27 PM.
                              Principles for the Development of a Complete Mind: Study the science of art. Study the art of science. Develop your senses- especially learn how to see. Realize that everything connects to everything else.― Leonardo da Vinci

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