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**Cornboy 555** · 06-08-2014, 11:24 PM

Thanks soo much for this UFO, you're a gem, I will get to winding as soon as time permits. Meanwhile I will study and digest, what you have shown, and try to limit the Questions.

Your diagrams are extremely helpful, my Friend, if you were trying to explain it to me with just words, I would be lost!!.

Once Again, Thanks UFO,

Warmest Regards Cornboy.

**flaviop** · 06-11-2014, 04:50 AM

Good evening everyone,
I apologize for not responding earlier, was studying to see where I went wrong. I have very low experience with what is discussed here, as I said, I'm a doctor, after a certain age I started a course in mechatronics engineering (did only basic step - 2 years), it was not possible to reconcile the college and the hospital!! As a doctor, I'm a sonographer in the last 25 years. This makes me able to understand the principle of what is discussed here. In my profession work all day making and interpreting images in 1 dimension, 2 dimensions and 3 dimensions to 4 dimensions, and with these, everyone is love. After having repeated the instructions of Ed Leedskalnin, in your Magnetic Current book, I could see and understand what was said about my posts. Again, thanks to Midaz, Garry and UFO.
Good, going to my conclusions, in all forum is a place to discuss ideas and learn, learn, learn ....
Justifying my changes, I repeat, when I saw the UFO illustration showing the serial connection, I had no doubt that the result would be the winding the Ufo without the second switch, seemed to be the ideal solution. Of course I'd seen the original footage, explaining why the two switches, but could not see the differences.
After studying a bit, I saw that putting the two switches with the inputs and outputs aligned, would be directing my electric flow to the longitudinal axis of the motor, generating pulses or impulses with every change of the switch blade, as is done in a stepper motor, exciting each coil or group of coils in sequence. The resulting magnetic force would be divided between the inner and outer faces of the coils, a North Side and a South side. Different of the thinks UFO, where this change would every 180� of rotation. Today on my way to see, this happens all the time, while we are energizing the motor. When you put the two switches, leave the magnetic axes perpendicular to one another, ie, the North and South in the stator would cross the north and south axis along the longitudinal axis of the rotor, this is what takes the antagonistic effect when putting a single switch, where the two axes are in transverse. Am I clear?

Portugu�s:
Boa noite a todos.
Me desculpem por n�o ter respondido antes, estava estudando para ver onde errei. N�o tenho nenhuma experi�ncia com o que � discutido aqui, como j� disse, sou m�dico, depois de certa idade comecei um curso de engenharia mecatronica(fiz s� a etapa basica), n�o foi poss�vel conciliar a faculdade e o hospital!!!!! Como m�dico, sou ultrassonografista a 25 anos. Isto me faz capaz de entender o principio de tudo o que � discutido aqui. Na minha profiss�o trabalho o dia inteiro fazendo e interpretando imagens em 1 dimens�o, 2 dimens�es, 3 dimens�es e at� 4 dimens�es, e com estas, todos ficam apaixonados. Depois de ter repetido as instru��es do Ed Leedskalnin, do seu "manual" Corrente Magn�tica, pude ver e entender o que foi falado sobre os meus posts. Mais uma vez, obrigado ao Midaz, Garry e UFO.
Bom vamos �s minhas conclus�es, afinal um f�rum � um local de se discutir ideias e aprender, aprender, aprender....
Justificando a minha altera��o, volto a repetir, quando vi a ilustra��o do UFO, mostrando a liga��o em s�rie, n�o tive d�vidas que a resultante, seria o embominamento do Ufo, sem o segundo comutador, parecia ser a solu��o ideal. � claro que j� tinha visto os videos iniciais, mostrando o porque dos dois comutadores, mas n�o conseguia enxergar as diferen�as.
Ap�s estudar um pouco, vi que ao se colocar os dois comutadores, com as entradas e sa�das alinhadas, estaria direcionando meu fluxo el�trico para o eixo longitudinal do motor, gerando pulsos ou impulsos a cada mudan�a de l�mina do comutador, assim como se faz em um motor de passo, excitando cada bobina ou grupo de bobinas em sequ�ncia. A for�a magn�tica resultante ficaria dividida, entre as faces interna e externa das bobinas, de um lado Norte, do outro Sul. Diferente do que pensa o UFO, onde esta mudan�a se faria a cada 180� de rota��o do motor. Hoje na minha maneira de ver, isto ocorre o tempo todo, enquanto estivermos energizando o motor. Ao se colocar os dois comutadores, deixamos os eixos magn�ticos perpendiculares um ao outro, ou seja, o Norte e Sul do estator ficaria no eixo transversal e o Norte e Sul do rotor no eixo longitudinal, isto � o que tira o efeito antag�nico ao se colocar um �nico comutador, onde os dois eixos ficam na transversal. Fui claro?

**Ufopolitics** · 06-11-2014, 10:52 PM

Originally posted by flaviop View Post

Good evening everyone,
I apologize for not responding earlier, was studying to see where I went wrong. I have very low experience with what is discussed here, as I said, I'm a doctor, after a certain age I started a course in mechatronics engineering (did only basic step - 2 years), it was not possible to reconcile the college and the hospital!! As a doctor, I'm a sonographer in the last 25 years. This makes me able to understand the principle of what is discussed here. In my profession work all day making and interpreting images in 1 dimension, 2 dimensions and 3 dimensions to 4 dimensions, and with these, everyone is love. After having repeated the instructions of Ed Leedskalnin, in your Magnetic Current book, I could see and understand what was said about my posts. Again, thanks to Midaz, Garry and UFO.
Good, going to my conclusions, in all forum is a place to discuss ideas and learn, learn, learn ....
Justifying my changes, I repeat, when I saw the UFO illustration showing the serial connection, I had no doubt that the result would be the winding the Ufo without the second switch, seemed to be the ideal solution. Of course I'd seen the original footage, explaining why the two switches, but could not see the differences.

Hello Flavio,

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If You are referring to the SERIAL CONNECTION at Right Hand Side.

Take a look at the way this works AGAIN Flavio...

The rear Jumper is joining together ONLY the MOMENTARY COILS when Brushes contact the Commutator Elements to those Coils set apart by 180�, THEN those Coils are disconnected and a NEW SET comes into CONTACT...and so on.

If You DO just ONE COMMUTATOR, (like in your Motor), those JOINT COILS would ALWAYS BE ATTACHED TOGETHER...NO MOMENTARY SWITCHING!!

So the Rear Jumper works only with whichever Coils are making MOMENTARY CONTACT at Brush-Element, and set apart by 180� (or 90� for four brush-four stators systems).

After studying a bit, I saw that putting the two switches with the inputs and outputs aligned, would be directing my electric flow to the longitudinal axis of the motor, generating pulses or impulses with every change of the switch blade, as is done in a stepper motor, exciting each coil or group of coils in sequence. The resulting magnetic force would be divided between the inner and outer faces of the coils, a North Side and a South side. Different of the thinks UFO, where this change would every 180� of rotation. Today on my way to see, this happens all the time, while we are energizing the motor. When you put the two switches, leave the magnetic axes perpendicular to one another, ie, the North and South in the stator would cross the north and south axis along the longitudinal axis of the rotor, this is what takes the antagonistic effect when putting a single switch, where the two axes are in transverse. Am I clear?

The Input and Output Flows DO travel along shaft axis...BUT SEPARATED, INDEPENDENTLY ONE FROM EACH OTHERS...

This is the ONLY WAY that Coils will NEVER receive a reversed Input from our Source...

Don't try to look for "other ways"...I have spent years Developing this Technology...plus studying Nikola Tesla's Electrodynamic Machines...and You just started "yesterday"...Flavio...

Finally, Flavio...I would like to end this conversation here, because it brings confusion to other builders, or future readers...so, BUILD some REAL ASYMMETRIC MACHINES, with TWO(2) COMMUTATORS, then We will talk again.

Regards

Ufopolitics

**Ufopolitics** · 06-12-2014, 01:11 AM

Where I went wrong...

Hello to All,

I have done a simplified Diagram, in order to show, plus understand better where I went wrong on this Asymmetries...

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On Left We have the North South Configurations for Two Stators (upper left) plus the Four Stators in lower left.

This Diagram is General or "No Poles shown"...it don't matter...so could be anyone we choose randomly. The Point is to look at where is the "conflict".

On Left Upper (2 Stators) Example could be the Radio Shack Five Pole...are shown the two Motor Coils North and South on the Pair...please note that Generator (Green Shaded Area) is just sweeping at South Stator...or it could be North...depending on set up.

However, at Right Upper Diagram, we have the All North (say it is the RS Model also)...so, we have the Two North Coils in the Pair where N1 is at Repulsion Stage with North Stator, while N2 is at Attract Stage with South Stator ...BUT, the more important side is to look at GEN Coils...notice they are sweeping between N-S Stators...so obviously, the Generation is bigger and assisting in this type of Machines.

The Conflicts get worst when looking at Four Stator Systems...so, let's say the Machine is an Imperial P56...as we all built it.

If We remember...we had Two MOTOR Pairs opposed exactly by 180� P1 & P15...

Let's look at it...

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Here it is clearly seen as we have in the First Diagram...Left Lower Four Stators Set...AND We have P8 and P22 as Generating Coils , exactly opposed at 180� , then we have our Generation Staging Coils Overlapping with Motor Coils North and South...a real mess Guys, and I am sorry about this mistake.

This intensified Amperage draw...as it created a counter force when we fed them opposite at the Output Gates...generating huge sparking, overheating commutator and brushes...

The Big Difference is seen at Right Lower End...Four Stators, All North...We notice the Big Time advantages at first glance...a very clean separation between GEN and Motor Coils...GEN Coils are sweeping "clean" between N-S Stators (no overlapping with Motor Coils)

And... I do not want to add/discuss about the Spatial Magnetic Fields "Upsetting" caused by doing North South within the same Rotor...exactly like Symmetry does...till We understand this differences perfectly well, and test them-compare them.

This is a development about a completely different Technology...and I am not trying to excuse myself...but, it is understood we can all make mistakes.

The North-North (or the South-South)...Unipolar Rotors is the way to go guys...

Regards to All

Ufopolitics

**vidbid** · 06-16-2014, 09:58 AM

The Effect of Increasing the Magnetic Field of the Stator Magnets

I don't know if this idea would be applicable to asymmetrical motors, but I'll throw the idea out there, anyways.

There's a video on YouTube that talks about increasing the magnetic fields on a conventional symmetrical motor, and it looks like something is happening.

STARGATE MOTOR FULL DEMO - YouTube

I'm wondering could the same be done for an asymmetrical motor?

Interesting question.

Regards,

VIDBID

**Midaztouch** · 06-17-2014, 01:12 AM

Vidbid

Yes, Stronger Magnetic Fields increase aspects favorably

Keep it Clean and Green

Midaz

**iankoglin** · 06-17-2014, 03:08 AM

Originally posted by GlenWV View Post

Greetings Kogs:

The circuit is a John Bedini's pulse charging circuit from one of his patents. I'm using it to pulse a 117 strand SG coil rather than spinning the wheel. On the far right is a four position switch with capacitors attached which allows a wider range of frequencies to be available. (I've played this same trick with Bob French's circuit posted on the 'My Motors' thread.)

It's a handy little circuit, so give it a try.

glen

G'day Glen
would you please email me the schematic of your setup so I can examine it
Kindest Regards

Kogs always interested

**Pembelton** · 06-19-2014, 04:26 PM

Schematic

Ian,
There is a good schematic of a SG 3524 pulse width modulated PMDC motor controller using a hall effect throttle over on Over Unity Research. It is for electric bikes or other such things. It's in a thread called Motor controller circuits and ideas. Have a good day.

PWM PMDC Motor controller

**GlenWV** · 06-20-2014, 01:04 AM

SG3524 & LM339 circuits

Originally posted by iankoglin View Post

G'day Glen
would you please email me the schematic of your setup so I can examine it
Kindest Regards

Kogs always interested

Greetings Kogs:

The SG3524 circuit can be seen on page A-469 of Patrick Kelly's Practical Guide to Free-Energy, seen here:
http://www.free-energy-info.co.uk/Appendix1.pdf

The datasheet is here: http://www.farnell.com/datasheets/1705388.pdf

The LM339 circuit is from Bob French's drawing found here:
Circuit -rev. 2 Photo by bobfrench | Photobucket

On the SG3524, I added a four position switch with various capacitors connecting to Pin 7. This allows for a wide selection of operating frequencies. The datasheet shows how to calculate cap values.

I've built several battery chargers using this circuit.

Same trick on the LM339. A four position switch with capacitors selected using a factor of 10: .01uF, .1uF, 1uF, and so forth.

This LM339 output at pin 1 is used to bias one MJL21194 which passes voltage to bias the bases of 55 more MJLs with 110 strands of #22 gauge wire connected to them. (I think that I once stated that I was using the SG3524 circuit on the large SG coil, but that was a misstatement.) This is a standard Bedini SG setup with a lot of strands. No wheel spinning, just biasing the bases using the LM339 frequency & duty cycle.

The LM339 circuit is also being used on my UFO coils, and could also be used when building battery chargers. (Haven't tried this idea yet, but figure that it would work.)

Hope this covers your questions. If not, just holler........

And, how is Nessie coming along?

Glen