My Asymmetric Electrodynamic Machines

[sampojo]

Re: coil harmonics

@Sampojo

Sam I have been going back over materials on the mmgmttire thread and playing with different frequencies and duty cycles on the cold electricity coil that ufo recommended to build. ... If any one has had better success with cold electricity recharging let me know. I have read that in many of the experiments that it took conditioning for the batteries to receive the charge. Has anyone any information on this aspect of recharging and reconditioning lead acid batteries?

Cheers,

Garry

I have been doing a lot of battery charging using the Imhotep Relay Charger, trying to extend lead acid battery life. For a while on alibaba you could get "battery desulphators", which seemed to have this sort of a design. I've been using a garden tractor battery for 7 or 8 years now, which I have been hitting with a relay charger. Shoulda died a few years ago... I have brought a few UPC batteries back to life that people were throwing out... A guy was doing a two-battery thread using ufo's motor-generator setups, early in this thread.

Check out my post today on getting RE out of my AMC on the mmgm thread. I got some additional energy out possibly, compared to a conventional PWM but it was small, on the ragged edge of detection. I was a little disappointed, hope it works better on a quad stator... What I did notice was that the rpm was maximized with as low a freq. as the duoblink program could smoothly run the motor before it dies when you turn the freq pot to the minimum. As the freq rose, the rpm dropped. I need some better documentation and more tests before posting more.

[GChilders]

coil harmonics

@Sampojo

Sam I have been going back over materials on the mmgmttire thread and playing with different frequencies and duty cycles on the cold electricity coil that ufo recommended to build. I had skipped this project and moved right into replicating the gold mine r/s wind and then continued with several other winds including the Y and all north winds. There is definitely something that is a very interesting effect at higher frequencies and smaller duty cycle percentages. I have been using a monster driver with a Arduino to pulse the coil and have seen a great deal more power pick up when pulsing at frequencies in the two to 3 kilo hertz range. The available radiant energy seems to become stronger with smaller duty cycles around the 15 to 20% range. I have read that the longer the off time in the duty cycle that the more energy is drawn in from the environment and am trying to prove it a little more conclusively, before I post a video. I will say that the cold electricity on the cold side of the coil i.e. the cold side of the diodes are definitely more responsive to lower rpms, higher frequencies and smaller duty cycles. I wound my coil with two coils on the former. The inner coil is being used as a pick up coil and it seems to work opposite of the cold electricity coil. In other words as the rpms are increased and the duty cycle is increased the electricity induced by the collapsing magnetic field becomes stronger, the lights become brighter and so on. At the same time that the lights are becoming brighter, the cold side of the cold electricity coil are becoming weaker. I am wondering if this effect can be used to our advantage with the motors in order to help recharging the batteries? I noticed that when I replace the coil with an asymmetric motor that the higher the frequency the stronger the motor runs; more torque, more rpms. I have over the last 5 months been experimenting with a number of recharging scenarios. It would be great if one of these technologies actually were worthwhile. The problem that I am having with cold electricity recharging the batteries is elusive and inconclusive. Most of the methods take too long to recharge a battery. Although the voltage appears to move up quickly with many of these chargers the charge is superficial and the voltage moves back to the voltage prior to the charge and eventually the motor stops running. I have played with the auto relay charger as a proof of concept, a method that I noticed that you have used also. This charger seems incapable of charging the large lead acid batteries that we are using. I have not tried it with small batteries. I have not found any of the motors that I have replicated to be capable of recharging the batteries. One system that I tried seemed promising which was a Tesla switch that had a half battery and half capacitor combo. Wire two large caps in parallel and then switch them over into a series circuit. The caps would charge very quickly and would easily double the drive voltage available to the motor with a slightly different configuration than was the published method. Have you used any of these methods? I do think that the really high energy output methods of Don Smith and Kapanadze's replications of them rely on very high pulse rates that move us from electromagnetic fields into wave production. That is where the real multiplication of power comes. In the two kilo hertz plus range. I am sure that laminated steel cores and brushes will not be effective in these ranges. We will have to go to air cores or some other material that will not create electromagnetic flux. Many of these devices seem to utilize Tesla coils in conjunction with a pulser to drive the electromagnets and a relatively simple homemade capacitor. I want to research this a little more but time constraints and caution of the high voltages and amperages produced are holding me back. I am heavily invested in what we are developing here for now just looking for a more compact method of recharging the batteries. If any one has had better success with cold electricity recharging let me know. I have read that in many of the experiments that it took conditioning for the batteries to receive the charge. Has anyone any information on this aspect of recharging and reconditioning lead acid batteries?

Cheers,

Garry

[Raphael37]

As I have contended all along ... the 12,000+ year old design being 'passed forward' or 'recovered' is based on a combination of the 3-fold and 4-fold swastikas and this is key, err they are the KEYS to understanding the 'field' and how to 'extract' energy from it.

magnetic motor magnético, magnet motor, free energy, moteur magnétique,moteur magnetique,motor magnético,pricipio magnetico triângulo/quadrado,
this site might be of help

Scroll down at the above link >>> there appears to be a modification to the John Bedini model, are the modifications comprehensible?





large image:
http://i.imgur.com/2HOWPnh.png

merry SSSG X-mass



http://www.energeticforum.com/renewa...tml#post268863

[jason65r]

Merry Christmas to everyone. Thank You for all the time and hard work that you all have put in this year. All the best to everyone.
From a watcher, from New Zealand.

[DadHav]

Merry Christmas

Merry Christmas!
"Peace On Earth, Good Will Towards Man"
John

[esesenergy]

Why not tell the man about the results about the imperial NS assym motor that was tested imperial? What is the power( volts x amps in to the oem motor and what is the power out of both outputs on the assym NN motor/gen?

[HuntingRoss]

Obviously you don't care. So, why did you ask?

Hi Midaz.

I care as I'm devoting many hours to the subject and your response alludes to the Imperial test having been undertaken. I would certainly like to read the post(s) that give the background to the build and outcome...Or even a recollection of the result would be informative.

Regards

mark

[HuntingRoss]

Hi esesenergy

I just drove my assy with an OEM and yes, two outputs.

mark

[esesenergy]

if you use a windmill or some other way to turn the assym motor,will it have 2 outputs?

[HuntingRoss]

Beast #6

A little later than intended but here are the figures for Beast #6.

0.5mm wire - 22 turn 4 pole coil in pairs. 12 pairs total.

5.39v PSU no load
5.04v @ 1.72A @ 2198 rpm.
3.2v out.

10.34v PSU no load
10.15v @ 2.11A @ 5208 rpm.
7.53v out.

Torque -
@ 5v - 125g @ 100mm @ 8.85A stall
@ 10v - 240g @ 100mm @ 18.42A stall

happy hunting

mark

[esesenergy]

why ask why?

[esesenergy]

Has anyone sent a NN assym motor to be tested again by IMPERIAL ? Did it fail also like the NS assym motor ?

[reidrider]

Thanks, will be checking it out. Looking forward to seeing your new projects.

[sampojo]

Splash of cold water

20 amp gauge just acting funny on low reading, read a littl e less than 1A for one channel only a little bit today and then got stuck unresponsive down near zero again. Put an inline meter to capture both feeds, was reading about 1.6A today at full power on the AMC. However my motor is only getting around 2800rpm today, not the 3400 I had yesterday. Spurious rpm reading maybe. Inline direct feed is getting about 1.8A and 3450~rpm, about the same. Playing with the frequency, seems to do best at speeds when you can see the blinking... getting varying performance out of driver boards, sometimes there is a leakage current when duty cycle is down to 0. Gone at the moment, just breaking in those IC's yuk yuk. Some stepping of rpm still seems evident, but maybe the motor needs broke in too. runs better in one direction than the other, 200 more rpm there. Just got a little excited perhaps just getting the controller circuitry to work at all! also seems I have a bad mosfet, detected at a 50ohm short condition, not completely shorted, from originals on board I shocked a while back, mishandling the power on slow start requirements.

all the kinks need flattening...

[Ufopolitics]

Excellent Sam!

Quite Right Mark!

Pulsing: What UFO shows on his My Motors thread ( I urge you to study all the ~100 pages) is how to get radiant energy out of a coil by pulsing and then how to apply it to a motor's coils. But in a nutshell you may maximize RE by pulsing coils sequentially at a suitable low frequency. In multi-stator asym designs you may 1/2, 1/4,1/6 depending on the number of brush pairs/stators, the amount of input power theoretically needed to run the motor by a normal unpulsed direct feed. You can skip over the 555 board designs to focus on the monster driver John Stone V5.1 and Arduino Programmable Logic Chip designs. I need to confirm this but even my dual stator motor was running on electron fumes, hundreds of milliamps, off scale of my 20 amp ammeter, when it normally would take 1-1.5A.

Construction: If a conventional symmetric motor body is not machined to asymmetric specs, (matching diameter shaft, interchangeable brush mount endplates) then they must be made to spec. One easy way to achieve this is the practice of sawing off the butt end of a symmetric motor flush to the magnets and joining the bodies there, leaving two brush mount ends on either side. Of course you must find a strong connection mechanism and the bodies must be made true. In these motors, no need to dismount magnets. I arc welded the bodies together. Heating of magnets must be minimized or else they lose their magnetism. I go for bigger motors that can take things like arc welding since the heating is rather instantaneous and can be controlled by using heat sinks like a damp rag on the inside. (Soldering will actually deliver more heat to the magnets than welding since its not as fast as arc welding.) This way you have doubled the size and strength and energy output capability of the motor by using more of the old symmetric components!

Excellent response Sam!

I would like just to add that "Dual Stators" are meant (in our vocabulary) to Two Stator Motors...versus the "Quad Stat" or Four Stator / Four Brush Structures.

I am glad you have -finally- arrived to a smooth running System my friend!

I'd like to make an additional comment on the stepper motor effect I saw, I don't recall any one posting about this before, for the entire 2 years! Is the motor saying it is liking operation at specific rpms, i.e. frequencies, i.e. HARMONICS anyone???? i.e. maximum zero point energy tap points???? Hmmm One of Tesla's favorite topics as I recall!!!!





I am truly excited...

My Friend...this motors could be used as "Servo Motors" easily for Robotics applications...step by step and very accurate...remember they use coil segments fired INDIVIDUALLY and NOT ALL in SERIES like Symmetric ones...


Kind Regards and hope you are doing better with your Hips and this weather up North...so, stay warm!


Ufopolitics