My Asymmetric Electrodynamic Machines

[HuntingRoss]

Shaft coupler

Thanks for the welcome thaelin, cornboy.

The shaft coupler is a nice idea to help me dodge the required cut down on one of the motor bodies. Less work always sounds good. Thanks.

Set screws and flats on the shaft could be saved with the Loctite 290 or solder. I will consider once I have the other motor stripped, which is about to be bench marked for later comparison.

mark

[Cornboy 555]

New Digs.

Hello Everyone, great to see new blood, continuing to come here, Hunting Ross.

Sorry I cut out mid stream, I have my farm listed on Realestate.com, and am spending any spare time answering potential buyers emails, and organising inspections.

My daughter has just bought a property, to secure it for me, it is off grid, and will be very close to off Mortgage, with a pristine, huge flow, river running through it, that originates in locked up state forest.

It is 800 meters above sea level, with only 3 neighbours up stream, that don't farm.

When I settle in I should have some Quality time to experiment, so just a big HELLO, to everyone, and I will be a more participating member here shortly.

[thaelin]

Hi Ross:
I am going to jump in here with the best advantage for you if you are going to join two motors together. Seek out the DIY CNC suppliers and order a coupler for the size of shaft your motors has. Once you know the correct alignment for the shafts, file a small flat spot for the set screws and you will always have the right spot. They are a bit spendy but sure do fix the issue spot on. I scattered both my motors so had to start over. Job has been 6/7 days a week so no time really to do anything but sleep. So I just follow along with the group here when I can. My personal thanks for you picking up the ball and running with it too. Somewhere someone will make the discovery to make us all a bit better in life and that could be you so run with it.

UFO....

Still with you here but just no time for the bench anymore. Sad to see all that good stuff just sit there and not used. 750 watt motors only 90$ but no damn time to do it. Chow......l.

thay

So...here is my first faltering steps into this world of stuff never taught at school.

I have two 24v DC 120w scooter motors which I intend to cut off the back shaft s and bond them together using Loctite 290. I figure this will keep the correct alignment of commutator to rotor slots.

The motors are 12 pole wound as 5 pole 23 winds per coil. They develop a staggering 0.42N.m at 2500rpm. In other words you can easily stall this on a bench test with only 5v running through it by just using your thumb and forefinger with a cloth to save your skin. I intend to use the 5v power supply as a datum against the rewind when I have it complete.

I've just ordered a bunch of basic test equipment so I can check the stats as I get them.

I'm going to try a 3 coil/group 3 pole/coil 4 winds/coil and see if this works. This is against a background of me trying to absorb the info in UFO's videos with brush positions, centre magnets...Honestly. My head is spinning (no pun intended) with the overload of information.

I shall add a few photos for good measure in my next post when I get my equipment delivered.

The very best to all...and good speed

mark

[prochiro]

lightworker1

I wish my setup was as neat as yours, every thing in its place.....

I have also been working with the Goldmine motors and seem to recall you talking about the caps you use in these motors but wonder what caps you are using and what your knowledge now is about pro's and con's ether way about using them or further testing ideas.
Dana

[wantomake]

breakthrough

You guys seem to be too deep into whatever your in to.

This thread should be renamed: My Asymmetric Electrodynamic Machines 1000 year discovery.

No offense to UP. I need to see a massive breakthrough before i retire.

No offence to you, but maybe you would be the one that makes that breakthrough. But sadly if you don't get involved and try to build, we'll never know. I don't have a PhD or degree in engineering or science, but my heart and desire to be free is enough to contribute something to this journey.

We will finish soon,
wantomake

[HuntingRoss]

You guys seem to be too deep into whatever your in to.

This thread should be renamed: My Asymmetric Electrodynamic Machines 1000 year discovery.

No offense to UP. I need to see a massive breakthrough before i retire.

It's always a wonder to me that people like you come to places like this and say things like that. It serves no purpose whatsoever.

[tony1968]

You guys seem to be too deep into whatever your in to.

This thread should be renamed: My Asymmetric Electrodynamic Machines 1000 year discovery.

No offense to UP. I need to see a massive breakthrough before i retire.

[HuntingRoss]

The start of my quest

So...here is my first faltering steps into this world of stuff never taught at school.

I have two 24v DC 120w scooter motors which I intend to cut off the back shaft s and bond them together using Loctite 290. I figure this will keep the correct alignment of commutator to rotor slots.

The motors are 12 pole wound as 5 pole 23 winds per coil. They develop a staggering 0.42N.m at 2500rpm. In other words you can easily stall this on a bench test with only 5v running through it by just using your thumb and forefinger with a cloth to save your skin. I intend to use the 5v power supply as a datum against the rewind when I have it complete.

I've just ordered a bunch of basic test equipment so I can check the stats as I get them.

I'm going to try a 3 coil/group 3 pole/coil 4 winds/coil and see if this works. This is against a background of me trying to absorb the info in UFO's videos with brush positions, centre magnets...Honestly. My head is spinning (no pun intended) with the overload of information.

I shall add a few photos for good measure in my next post when I get my equipment delivered.

The very best to all...and good speed

mark

[DadHav]

Hello John, Regarding

Post #7023: … Personally I don't believe I'll see a self running machine in my lifetime but I would like to see a vehicle travel further for less than a conventional EV. Much further for much less hopefully.

Post #7033: … Good luck with your Goldmine motors. Has anyone used this particular one, or know anything about it like how many poles? It also looks like it might have real bearings in it. (I assume you direct this one to Dana)

John your statement, “ Personally I don't believe I'll see a self running machine in my lifetime ”
First, we wish you happy and long life of 100+ and second, each person has a divine freedom to plan one's life in anyway they wish. What one thinks so one becomes. One path leads to success while other to failure. Personally I joined this UFO Forum when I found he has that burning desire, action plan and know how to go where no man has gone before. Not because it is easy. Most of the hard working members here identify with UFO on these traits. Most of us are not rich either but we want to change the world for the better.

As far my vision, WE WILL see self-runner sooner. It may take one of the two forms:

1. UFO Motor itself might be a self-runner or
2. Additional unit harnessing the concepts of Tesla's zero-point space energy to run our motors. I am already beginning to visualize something like prius like car running with our motor and some small battery for the control circuits. All electric car capable of 100+ mph. The energy will come from the energy unit.

Furthermore, I have been absent from the forum for some time (although I did let UFO know the reasons). Here are the reasons but were they enough to stop my quest and send me into despair? The answer is NO (or as UFO says, “NO SWEAT”).

1. My oscilloscope and function generator became non-functional.
2. Just about as I was to start running my results for the GOLDMINE motor the Power-Supply 2-36V under the control of Ardunio died. I have addressed this failure with the design of the control power-supply that will go from 2-100V (110V if pushed) under the control of Arduino. This time the control power-supply will also run my next project of IMPERIAL MOTOR too. This time I also decided not to use perf boards but decided to learn and start design using double-sided PCBs using UV exposure (hot iron method gives poor resolution pcbs). The idea being that in the case of simpler boards I will etch them myself. In the case of more advanced project send the job to the BOARD HOUSE. All this comes under investment (lot of time) and it goes without saying that most the members wear many of the similar hats to get their projects accomplished. I know you too have a good machine shop.



Now the following Goldmine Motor information might be useful to you and all.


Side 1 of the original Goldmine Motor




Side 2 of the original Goldmine Motor



Original Goldmine Motor unassembled with a new longer shaft alongside and another goldmine motor for reference (as I bought 5 pieces)




GOLDMINE MOTOR - UFO 5 Pole Dual Pentagon Asymmetric Y Wind Motor armature with 5 Capacitors with different views









Test Rig for the completed Dual Pentagon Asymmetric Motor with the so called Y-wind


Now here is the small video of the completed Dual Pentagon Asymmetric Motor with the so called Y-wind

UFOPOLITICS 5 Pole Dual Pentagon Asymmetric Y Wind Motor - YouTube


Warm regards and Namaste

lightworker1

Hello Light, Thank you for taking the time to answer my post. There are things that you said that I agree with. UFO definitely has a bushel basket full of socially captivating equities, that's what drew me here as well. I don't mean to roll a dark cloud over things and probably shouldn't have made my opinion of a self runner public. This was a reference to my own disabilities and not what I predict from others. Thanks for your best wishes and if I knew I had 30 years yet in front of me I would probably retract my statement. LOL. I've had several experiences on my own bench that have led me to believe it might happen some day. I just happen to get over inquisitive when someone says they can do this. I've said it before, I personally believe someone will discover something that's been right in front of our nose for years or maybe even thousands of years. Think about something very simple and familiar for a moment. How long have people been using dowsing rods or known there is something special about pyramids? I've seen demonstrations of there being some energy there that just seems impossible. (Unobtainium anyone?) Have a nice day everyone.
Good luck LightWorker.
John

[Lightworker1]

It's been a long time hasn't it? Many people including people we know and worked with have taken what might be a permanent rest from it all. I don't know Eses but maybe he's one them. No matter what, there's nothing honorable about what he said. What's really sad is how many thousands of people are tricked every day by fake videos and promotions on YouTube and other places. Not to mention how many books and videos you can buy, study and still end up with the same results as people had 40 years ago. LOL that would be me. You just can't blame the people who are trying so hard. UFO's professional way of presenting a project has kept things going for a few years now and a lot of people have had fun studying and building. That's certainly worth something. I'm not saying I'm without reservations as it pertains to some of the disclosures but time is short before some of the larger builds are finished right? Personally I don't believe I'll see a self running machine in my lifetime but I would like to see a vehicle travel further for less than a conventional EV. Much further for much less hopefully.
John
I always believed if a person tries hard enough and long enough he might eventually die trying.

Hello John, Regarding

Post #7023: … Personally I don't believe I'll see a self running machine in my lifetime but I would like to see a vehicle travel further for less than a conventional EV. Much further for much less hopefully.

Post #7033: … Good luck with your Goldmine motors. Has anyone used this particular one, or know anything about it like how many poles? It also looks like it might have real bearings in it. (I assume you direct this one to Dana)

John your statement, “ Personally I don't believe I'll see a self running machine in my lifetime ”
First, we wish you happy and long life of 100+ and second, each person has a divine freedom to plan one's life in anyway they wish. What one thinks so one becomes. One path leads to success while other to failure. Personally I joined this UFO Forum when I found he has that burning desire, action plan and know how to go where no man has gone before. Not because it is easy. Most of the hard working members here identify with UFO on these traits. Most of us are not rich either but we want to change the world for the better.

As far my vision, WE WILL see self-runner sooner. It may take one of the two forms:

1. UFO Motor itself might be a self-runner or
2. Additional unit harnessing the concepts of Tesla's zero-point space energy to run our motors. I am already beginning to visualize something like prius like car running with our motor and some small battery for the control circuits. All electric car capable of 100+ mph. The energy will come from the energy unit.

Furthermore, I have been absent from the forum for some time (although I did let UFO know the reasons). Here are the reasons but were they enough to stop my quest and send me into despair? The answer is NO (or as UFO says, “NO SWEAT”).

1. My oscilloscope and function generator became non-functional.
2. Just about as I was to start running my results for the GOLDMINE motor the Power-Supply 2-36V under the control of Ardunio died. I have addressed this failure with the design of the control power-supply that will go from 2-100V (110V if pushed) under the control of Arduino. This time the control power-supply will also run my next project of IMPERIAL MOTOR too. This time I also decided not to use perf boards but decided to learn and start design using double-sided PCBs using UV exposure (hot iron method gives poor resolution pcbs). The idea being that in the case of simpler boards I will etch them myself. In the case of more advanced project send the job to the BOARD HOUSE. All this comes under investment (lot of time) and it goes without saying that most the members wear many of the similar hats to get their projects accomplished. I know you too have a good machine shop.



Now the following Goldmine Motor information might be useful to you and all.


Side 1 of the original Goldmine Motor




Side 2 of the original Goldmine Motor



Original Goldmine Motor unassembled with a new longer shaft alongside and another goldmine motor for reference (as I bought 5 pieces)




GOLDMINE MOTOR - UFO 5 Pole Dual Pentagon Asymmetric Y Wind Motor armature with 5 Capacitors with different views









Test Rig for the completed Dual Pentagon Asymmetric Motor with the so called Y-wind


Now here is the small video of the completed Dual Pentagon Asymmetric Motor with the so called Y-wind

UFOPOLITICS 5 Pole Dual Pentagon Asymmetric Y Wind Motor - YouTube


Warm regards and Namaste

lightworker1

[Midaztouch]

UFO & Team

I've been thinking about using the all north as just a motor or just a generator, separating them...

Yes, the A1 MoGen is versatile and efficient. It's a motor and generator in one package. The negative that I see is that the generator creates magnetic drag. Whether it's light or heavy, magnetic drag decreases the performance. So, I thought, "Is there some other possibility that we could try, to get the best situation for pure performance/power!?"

The magnetic drag is coming from the energy production/generator. So logically, the separation of the gen brushes was my first order. The torque of the 750 Bosch motor using 2 inputs, tearing into the wood stick video, looked great....
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=kZgRgCY0oqw
but could we get more raw torque while keeping the amps down and keeping the motor cool at the same voltage!?

So I propose this. Is it possible to reversed the polarity on the generator brushes and then energize them? Making it just an Asymmetric Motor or Asymmetric Generator(your choice) with 4 inputs/outputs but I want to concentrate on motor for my example... All the wires on the factory input settings side would all be negative black wire inputs and energized at the same time. Naturally, the other side/shaft side wires would be all positive red outputs.

Some Thoughts and Questions

1.) *Setting the timing is crucial*
2.) Would the torque increase drastically using four inputs as I propose?
3.) Would amps increase slightly or heavily or not at all?
4.) Jumper the wires and running them in series.
5.) By eliminating the magnetic drag, Do the RPMs on the 4 inputs increase -vs- 2 inputs at the same voltage?
6.) Will the motor stay cool? (Yes, our motor is cool but I mean by temperature in this situation!)lol
7.) Etc....

Keep it Clean and Green
Midaz

[Midaztouch]

Hi guys!

Here is the first ever 100% Electric F1 race, Formula E 2014 Beijing China!.... Full Race!

https://m.youtube.com/watch?src_vid=..._bY&feature=iv

Keep it Clean and Green
Midaz

[wantomake]

Just hello

Hey Ufopolitics,
This being September I guess many are working on the Imperial motor and the new all north winding. Wow, I hope nothing but success for everybody's work.
Looking forward to your progress and future experiments.

I may rewind the old generator with thinner size wire as it yet pulling many amps with very little generator side output AC or DC.

Or.
The field coils are only six volt coils and I need to replace them with 12 volt ones.
I saw the 38A A1 24 volt generator for the army jeep. The shoes and coils in the case seem to be same size as this delco remy I'm using. Will ask owner the sizes.

Best to All on your builds,
wantomake

[prochiro]

Alexander

Yes, this is an off topic post. But as you are persistent, I will respond. I see no evidence that any of the drawings show other than NN and SS. I think that what you are referencing to is the letter S on the face of the magnet on the right on fig. 1 or the large S at the top in fig. 2. In any case, the two figures show NN and SS. You are confusing different types of labels.

In any case, this patent is full of vague and incorrect information so far off that I would not trust any of it. The only way to get a handle on this is to really study dynamo's and DC to AC transformers well. After that one may make more accurately a guess at just what was the real deal.

As UFO said, the motor would not work that way. There is something vary important missing in this patent and it is not just the magnet orientation. Dynamo's are not wired at all like as shown on patent. I think that he left out the whole wire winding truth as his protection as do many others. This leads to only the patent owner knowing the truth and the rest of civilization looses when he is gone. It really does not matter if the poles are messed up as so much is missing in other areas that you will have to reinvent the whole thing.



Robert Alexander/Free Energy/AG

I hope this ends this topic.
Dana

[hanon1492]

Hi,

Sorry Ufo for bringing to your thread this off-topic post, but I know that into this thread has sometimes appeared the patent 3,913,004 by Robert Alexander about his motor - generator. Also I know that in this thread there is very knownledgeable people and ,maybe, someone could be interested in the detail I will show next.

After watching carefully Robert Alexander US patent 3,913,004 drawing I have discovered that the correct polarity in the Alexander device is with like poles facing each other ( N-N !!!) Alexander drew it so that everyone would think that was N-S, but if you interpret correctly his drawing you will note the correct polarity of the magnets. Maybe Alexander was trying to hide this feature.

I attach a corrected sketch below.

You can see it more clear in Figure 2 of Alexander patent. The right stator pole orientation is North- North. I can not explain why, but this is a real fact. Figure 1 is the one that everyone knows and that figure 1 is drawn to mislead us.


Regards