All North 20 Poles BOSCH ran by Two AA Batteries...
Hello to All,
Below is the Video I just finished uploading to YT:
750W MACHINE RAN BY 2AA BATTERIES
And here is my Video Description in YT:
The Video above is a simple proof of wrong concepts We all have learned in our Electric Engineer Universities, or even in lower level technical Schools...if We are based on that "rigid", locked in time Model, adopted and considered "the one and only" for over One Hundred and Thirty Years by our Dogmatic Sciences, bought out/Financed, by Families which Institutions are based mainly, on Oil Investments Capitals...Cartels.
Then, the Model above brakes all rules established by those twisted and closed systems concepts acquired for too long by now...
Based on those old, dark, locked concepts, this Video then tends to become "unbelievable"...or merely be classified within the "Impossible to be"...A rated Category within the "Science Fiction" ...or could even be accused of being a Hoax, a Fraud...made under some special effect software, or some kind of tricks.
But it is not any of the above...it is completely real.
The Machine was modified, re-wounded and constructed based on a "Disregarded", by actual Science, Method of "Open, Asymmetrical Systems" conceived all the way back in the 1800's...and fully developed by Nikola Tesla.
Therefore, it is impossible, based on a Closed System, that activates simultaneously, all the looped, closed coils within its rotor/armature, to believe those two tiny batteries could even move that 4.39 lbs Machine rotor/shaft, plus all magnetic drag generated between Rotor Core and Stators, adding all mechanical friction involved (Bearings,Brushes, etc)...Then it will be much less conceivable to run it for over Twenty Five (exactly 25:27) Minutes at steady over 350 Revolutions Per Minute (RPM) without suffering any decay through whole track, just because it is an achievement, an operation, those two little batteries could never fulfill based on that system.
Those Two -small capacity- AA Batteries are "Engineered"-according to our "Dogmatic Science chosen Model"- to run, a much, but much smaller little motor...and only for "around" Fifteen (15) Minutes Maximum.
However, If I would be to engineer an Open System, where Only the actuating/interacting Coils that create motoring propulsion, would be turned on, one at a time, and just for a few nano seconds, and so on, a succession of other independent coils in a sequence, everyone at specific timings...each with low resistance values...then it would be possible within the same exact machine to obtain the results seen on this video.
It is not Science Fiction, it is not a hoax...We all have been blinded following one single possibility for too many years, and from generation to generation.
It is about time to become Divergent from those obsolete Models, and open our eyes and minds to develop this other hidden side of knowledge.
Ufopolitics
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Originally posted by DadHav View PostHello Everyone, Before I wind the 5 pole and do any tests there's something very important to be sure of. Is this the proper representation of how the bulb is connected in the regenerative acceleration under load test videos?
Yes, that is the correct connection.
However, one important part to understand/realize, is that the Red crossed line-arrow does NOT means/represent a steady connection, but constantly pulsing/swapping all different Inductor/Coils within Machine Rotor.
Another Picture I drew for a Member from France (Lerameur) with the same connection except adding a controller:
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However, here we can picture better the Coils since there is no "crossing" lines.
Take care
Ufopolitics
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Bulb Load
Hello Everyone, Before I wind the 5 pole and do any tests there's something very important to be sure of. Is this the proper representation of how the bulb is connected in the regenerative acceleration under load test videos?Attached Files
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Originally posted by Turion View PostUFO,
I am a little confused (as usual). I thought the focus was going to be on the five pole, since that is the one everyone is now saying has shown results. Am I to understand that you are going to focus on a four pole version instead, or are just trying out a four pole version to see if the effects are the same?
Dave
As Dana wrote, you could start on the RS Five Poles, it will show advantages over the previous version as seen on my testing video(s), mainly this Video
And..if you still have the previous one you built...you could compare it yourself, of course, using same spec's as wire gauge and # of turns like I did on video.
Yes, We will be moving into the Four Stator System, as it have isolated Input/Output versus the Two Stators type, then we could create better testing scenarios when trying Supercap Banks.
Plus many more "goodies"...
Ufopolitics
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Dave
We are doing the NN wind on RS five pole and as soon as Imperial gets our commutators some of us are testing the Imperial with NN wind. I think you may be confused with some talk of four Brush systems. Just wind a RS or similar with NN winds and see what you think.
Dana
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UFO,
I am a little confused (as usual). I thought the focus was going to be on the five pole, since that is the one everyone is now saying has shown results. Am I to understand that you are going to focus on a four pole version instead, or are just trying out a four pole version to see if the effects are the same?
Dave
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Four stator
Originally posted by Ufopolitics View PostHello Wantomake,
According to that picture every Stator comprehends Three(3) Poles...great!
I just need to know:
Did you removed the other Two(2) Stators on the housing?
Or is it just two Stators?
I could not see holes to bolt down stators core on the missing side (horizontal).
Also, it looks like a pretty heavy rotor core...thicker poles on the "T" vertical side represents less space for copper, as not too deep notch cut towards shaft either.
Still you could try winding it and see what it does when it is all finished.
On the wound stators, please, before removing wire by cutting it and trashing it out...try to write down the spec's, as number of turns and wire gauge.
Regards
Ufopolitics
Yes, I removed everything from this case, and it's a four stator. Picture was kind of dark.
This is my second machine. The first one has the four stators, four brushes, and armature in it still. But the mods I did on it are not what I need for your machine.The field coils are not symmetrical in the case. The pictured case is one I'm using and will have slots cut in it for (four) brushes on both ends.
The first generator was for testing and learning. This second generator, I want to be right and better.
Hard to tell number of windings but, looks to be (looking at armature from first generator)10 turns for each lap. Not really sure how to term this. And 17 to 18 awg. I have 17 awg to wind with.
Excited to see how it will turn out,
wantomakeLast edited by wantomake; 08-01-2014, 09:05 PM.
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Hello Dave
Originally posted by Turion View PostThere are some of us here still checking in on this thread from time to time. I for one built several motors to UFO's specs and when my results differed from what he was claiming I was shouted down and UFO did his best to make me feel incompetent, even though I was doing my best and was one of the FEW to actually do some serious testing. So I abandoned the project. And now it seems that the results I was getting have been shown to be accurate. It bothered me that someone would come on the forum and insist "THIS WORKS" when adequate testing had NOT been done, and now lots of folks have put in the time and money to replicate a failed prototype that they were led to believe was for real. My problem was more with the insistence that "this works" and the shouting down of those that called for testing by the inventor than anything else. It is one thing to come on the forum and say, "hey guys, I have an idea. Here it is. Who wants to join me in investigating its potential?" and quite another to insist that it works when real testing has not been done and jump all over everyone who questions the premise that it works.
I am a believer in thinking outside the box, and my hat is off to those of you who have stayed the course here. I have a hard time believing the positive results without some serious testing, simply because of what I have seen in the past on this thread, but I admire UFO's persistence. Maybe he believes in himself strongly enough not to fade into the woodwork as so many before him have done. I hope so.
Anyway, you have peaked my interest enough that I will probably attempt to replicate the five pole all North configuration when I get enough time. Thanks for all the hard work guys. Sometimes proving something DOESN'T work is as important as proving that something DOES.
Dave
Hello Dave,
I will just refer to "our Positive side" Dave...
I also admire your persistence searching and developing in the unknown, plus your excellent capability as a builder and "make it happen now"
It would be great to see you back to work here
So, you are welcome to give it a try, and ask as many questions as you like...by now you should be pretty familiar winding motors...
I would be uploading pretty soon (next week) a couple of videos where I rewind and teach in detail, my BOSCH 20 Poles, Four Stators with All North Groups...as well as some quick testings demonstrations.
Cheers
Ufopolitics
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According to picture...
Originally posted by wantomake View PostHey UFOpolitics, this is all I have for right now. I'm still getting parts and cleaning it. If you need more than this let me know but it'll take me a few days.
Thanks again,
wantomake
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According to that picture every Stator comprehends Three(3) Poles...great!
I just need to know:
Did you removed the other Two(2) Stators on the housing?
Or is it just two Stators?
I could not see holes to bolt down stators core on the missing side (horizontal).
Also, it looks like a pretty heavy rotor core...thicker poles on the "T" vertical side represents less space for copper, as not too deep notch cut towards shaft either.
Still you could try winding it and see what it does when it is all finished.
On the wound stators, please, before removing wire by cutting it and trashing it out...try to write down the spec's, as number of turns and wire gauge.
Regards
Ufopolitics
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Turion
I think your post is vary well spoken. I for one have seen things here that I have not seen elsewhere. It is good to here from an old friend and I think you were and will be an asset here. This past mess has been helpful for all and this is not the place to stop. The NN wind is best and I think if we go back ourselves and read some of the things we did at first, that some of those things which were forgotten or not brought forward, will help center out efforts.
Dana
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Still around
There are some of us here still checking in on this thread from time to time. I for one built several motors to UFO's specs and when my results differed from what he was claiming I was shouted down and UFO did his best to make me feel incompetent, even though I was doing my best and was one of the FEW to actually do some serious testing. So I abandoned the project. And now it seems that the results I was getting have been shown to be accurate. It bothered me that someone would come on the forum and insist "THIS WORKS" when adequate testing had NOT been done, and now lots of folks have put in the time and money to replicate a failed prototype that they were led to believe was for real. My problem was more with the insistence that "this works" and the shouting down of those that called for testing by the inventor than anything else. It is one thing to come on the forum and say, "hey guys, I have an idea. Here it is. Who wants to join me in investigating its potential?" and quite another to insist that it works when real testing has not been done and jump all over everyone who questions the premise that it works.
I am a believer in thinking outside the box, and my hat is off to those of you who have stayed the course here. I have a hard time believing the positive results without some serious testing, simply because of what I have seen in the past on this thread, but I admire UFO's persistence. Maybe he believes in himself strongly enough not to fade into the woodwork as so many before him have done. I hope so.
Anyway, you have peaked my interest enough that I will probably attempt to replicate the five pole all North configuration when I get enough time. Thanks for all the hard work guys. Sometimes proving something DOESN'T work is as important as proving that something DOES.
Dave
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Yes, We can...
Originally posted by wantomake View PostHello Ufopolitics,
Thanks for your advice on the cad program. Had to put that aside for now.
It's OK, I had to put aside a few more projects as well...
I've a question if it's ok. I've modified an old 1950's delco generator armature by removing a few armature plates and added a commutator on the other end . It has four poles with four brushes and room for the four extra brushes on the other end of the case. The armature has 14 slots and 28 commutator segments. Can I wind this amount of slots with the all north setup? You said a long time ago this amount wouldn't work and I see why. This all north is very interesting and challenging and I want to build if possible.
Thanks for sharing your time and I'm a fan of this thread and it's success.
wantomake
Wow, a 1950 Delco (GM) Dynamo...would love to see some pictures of such a beauty, a real "Antique" !...Yes, if I am correct, they were pretty long shafted cylinder types.
With the All North Group winding, it is possible to do odd numbers, as well as "not divisible by four" in the case of Quad Stators (hope that is what you meant by "four poles")
It was not possible with N-S Pairs.
What We need first, in order to lay out a CAD...is the number of rotor poles that would take the "approximate" circumference of One Stator...Three?...Four?
An upper view picture of rotor (seen all poles) inside Stator Housing, aligning rotor poles as "symmetrically" as possible, with the four stators would be perfect.
Regards
UfopoliticsLast edited by Ufopolitics; 07-31-2014, 10:28 AM.
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Hello Ufopolitics,
Thanks for your advice on the cad program. Had to put that aside for now.
I've a question if it's ok. I've modified an old 1950's delco generator armature by removing a few armature plates and added a commutator on the other end . It has four poles with four brushes and room for the four extra brushes on the other end of the case. The armature has 14 slots and 28 commutator segments. Can I wind this amount of slots with the all north setup? You said a long time ago this amount wouldn't work and I see why. This all north is very interesting and challenging and I want to build if possible.
Thanks for sharing your time and I'm a fan of this thread and it's success.
wantomakeLast edited by wantomake; 07-30-2014, 08:32 PM.
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Zardox
Putting two shafts together will never work well in the end. There are shops that sell stainless small shafts of the diameter we use. Cut off what you need and put your motor together. I have used them to put four rotors on one shaft with an inch extra on both ends.
Dana
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