My Asymmetric Electrodynamic Machines

[dR-Green]

Round 2? I thought you said before that you had grown out of it. Calling me names on the almighty facebook doesn't exhibit a particularly high level of intelligence or sincerity in any of the supposedly scientific work. More like a religious cult. "Believe it, STFU, or pay the price!"

I am not lying to "my audience"...I have ALL the proof of my work shown through all my videos, all my tests.

Learn to read things in context. I didn't say that you are lying when you claim the bulb lights or the rotor turns. You are lying by proclaiming to all that Farmhand doesn't believe in OU. You are misrepresenting the opposition to your audience. You are spouting propaganda.

What are YOU, SPECIFICALLY You, going to do, that WOULD BENEFIT ME, if I show you OU?

Say "nice work".

What should I be expecting IF I DO SO?...an "approval" ...or a "Certificate" from any of Your Majesties of such excellent "curriculum" ?...Your Honor's?...would you make me a little picture with your B&W badly drawn hand sketches?...or Farmhands lousy hand's diagrams and clumsy hand writing?

What good is all of that for me or for any of my people here?

If your claims are true, then you should know what good it would be for ALL, not any individual who happens to ask.

whoever wants to replicate it, fine and "Dandy", that is absolutely their own decision, I have never forced anyone to do so, unless they approach like you, or your "client now" have done...asking , demanding for me to "show OU"...without anyone of You bringing absolutely NOTHING POSITIVE to ANY OF MY THREADS...at all.

Conclusive proof can only be positive. But you speak the truth in that it's the individual's choice to replicate it. But are they replicating it on the basis of your claims alone? If there is no truth in it then you are partially responsible for deliberately wasting their time and money, because you know the truth.

So, give me one single reason, just one, why should I leave whatever am doing, stop working and RUN, Oh yes, Oh My God, let me "run" to satisfy your requests, to both of you, Majesties?

It's not for me. It's for all mankind, apparently.

[Ufopolitics]

Now now UFO, you are lying to your audience because you know they will listen. Farmhand is not in the business of causing trouble for the sake of causing trouble.

Hey, listen, dR-Green or Otn Meaten in Facebook...

Now it is You AGAIN here, stepping in NOW as Farmhand's Lawyer?...

I am not lying to "my audience"...I have ALL the proof of my work shown through all my videos, all my tests.

Farmhand has a whole "History" that adds up to a Huge Book of many Chapters... where he is known for just doing that.
I have Two Main Threads here...where his attacks are all over them, since the very beginnings...always asking the same old thing, never using the proper approach.

So why not measure it properly once and for all? Use the accepted techniques then no one can debate with you or tell you how to do it properly.

So why don't you or Farmhand, build one of my simplest, smaller machines...and test them...according to ALL Diagrams I have shown so far, according to all Controllers developed here, that we have shown so far...and show your results?

Wouldn't this be the right way?

Of course it would be, then you would be respected by your time and work to proof my methods don't work!

Or are You both Incapable of building even a Three Pole small Motor conversion?...if that is so...then that is beyond my control...I can not make any of you two a little more "smarter".

But just doing a "walk in"...without any previous work done here...is a very easy position, and very doubtful, odd to be trusted by any thinking brain here.

Yes he does.

Hmmmm. Talk is cheap, how confident are you really? Shall we begin the test from the top of the Eiffel Tower?



No one is patronising you, we want to see the OU!

No he doesn't believe in OU, at all, he may "play" the "fool, not understanding role" before he admits OU exists.

Of course talk is cheap, then show me, show Us all, by building a little three pole motor?...it is so simple, even my four year old grand daughter could do it...

What are YOU, SPECIFICALLY You, going to do, that WOULD BENEFIT ME, if I show you OU?

Would You DONATE to Our Research any FUND$?

What should I be expecting IF I DO SO?...an "approval" ...or a "Certificate" from any of Your Majesties of such excellent "curriculum" ?...Your Honor's?...would you make me a little picture with your B&W badly drawn hand sketches?...or Farmhands lousy hand's diagrams and clumsy hand writing?

What good is all of that for me or for any of my people here?

Read me well, again:

I am NOT here to demonstrate anything to anyone...EXCEPT, to the Members who have been ACTIVELY Reproducing my work through all this Thread(s).

I am here to Disclose and Teach My Technology, My Work, and whoever wants to replicate it, fine and "Dandy", that is absolutely their own decision, I have never forced anyone to do so, unless they approach like you, or your "client now" have done...asking , demanding for me to "show OU"...without anyone of You bringing absolutely NOTHING POSITIVE to ANY OF MY THREADS...at all.

So, give me one single reason, just one, why should I leave whatever am doing, stop working and RUN, Oh yes, Oh My God, let me "run" to satisfy your requests, to both of you, Majesties?

For all of you who are not aware of this:

Otn Meaten Alias dR-Green Studied at the Great and Re-known "Starfleet Academy"

So, if I show OU to him...He may get me one of this awesome Seals from his Academy Diplomas...

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[dR-Green]

Now now UFO, you are lying to your audience because you know they will listen. Farmhand is not in the business of causing trouble for the sake of causing trouble.

Even showing O.U....He will never accept it...He will always find a wrong meter reading, a missing parameter, a wrong approach/concept

So why not measure it properly once and for all? Use the accepted techniques then no one can debate with you or tell you how to do it properly.

He does not believe in OU being ever possible

Yes he does.

Let Him come back in Two more years...We will be flying in our Machines by then...

Hmmmm. Talk is cheap, how confident are you really? Shall we begin the test from the top of the Eiffel Tower?



No one is patronising you, we want to see the OU!

[Ufopolitics]

No point wasting Your time answering to this Guy...

2 years this thread has been going, isn't it time you just demonstrated the O.U. you
claimed to be able to produce UFO ?

Will you need to instruct people for another two years first.

Or will you never show it unless one of the other builders can show it ?

Fair questions I think.

What are your claims/objectives here ? If you don't mind saying so.

You came to this site full of bluff, boast and abuse. How about showing the O.U.
or retracting the claims ?

I'll be back in 2 years time.

..
Oh one more question, can you show us one of your motors that you are using
on a day to day or regular basis to do useful work even, and show it's efficiency ?

On May 21, 2012 I uploaded on my First Thread this Video:

LIGHTING HID BULB ASSY WITH RADIANT ENERGY

...where I mention this guy's name DIRECTLY at the end...I uploaded link on my post...and never got an answer from him on this test...

On July 12, 2012...I uploaded the video below on this Thread:

BOSCH 20 POLES N-S ASYMMETRICAL

I also mentioned His name ...and like expected...I NEVER got a STRAIGHT answer from this rat related to any of this videos and many others more I have uploaded in this Two Years Time...

Meaning, when it is about a REAL FACE TO FACE ENCOUNTER...He sneaks his way out...just like a RAT does.

@Midaz and to All Open Minded People here, for all contributors to this Thread ONLY!!: That was a BOSCH 20 Poles, North-South Pairs Asymmetric Assembly I've built back at that time...let's wait till I build the New Type with the ALL NORTH Method on this same machine*...

*I am in the making of a second Rotor with the ALL NORTH winding configuration for this same Machine (while I wait for the Imperial Kit)...using the same Housing for both rotors to compare in a detailed video coming up soon...I did not wanted to take apart the original N-S Rotor...but having the Two, in order to demonstrate differences...

Farmhand,

Let me ask you a question. If UFO and Team show you O.U., are you going to donate money to build a prototype big enough to drive a semi truck? And How much?

Midaz,

There is no point wasting your time to respond to this guy.
He has NOT donated even One(1) single Minute of his time to contribute to our work here...except coming to criticize, set doubts about all our tests, or ask questions to set the Doubt, like this one above.

Do You really think He will contribute to anything else beyond "His Agenda"?...absolutely not.

On my end, I do not have to respond directly to him in any way, I am here, I have been here for these two years training and teaching people back and forth on how to put together a completely new methodology to wind and build a totally new Motor-Generator Structure...and... FOR FREE!!...So, I am not here to feed or satisfy the skeptics, the jealous or the envious anxieties to irrupt with their stupid statements, questions, anger or impulses due to their unstable personalities...product of poisoned/infectious blood streams.

Even showing O.U....He will never accept it...He will always find a wrong meter reading, a missing parameter, a wrong approach/concept according to his "great wikipedia schooling degrees"...

Your Dog will understand better than He will...simple, and trust me...

And it is not about Him being retarded, or stupid...besides being all that, this Individual is a very closed narrow minded when it comes to anything related to O.U.

Just check the "History" of ALL HIS POSTS on this Forum...ALL of them are related to the same thing...setting the doubt on any work displayed, He does not believe in OU being ever possible...not only related to my work here...but to ANY OTHER WORK shown here...then he keeps revolving in a closed loop around his small dark and muddy world.

Now, let me leave you with some food for thought...

1.) We all know that the all north asymmetric 5 pole(2 stators/2pole north group wind)is about 51% motor and 49% generator. It has 2 inputs & 2 outputs. The 2 stators run on 1 input. Leaving 1 output to produce and collect energy.

2.) The all all north asymmetric 56 pole(4 stator/6pole north group wind, "Imperial Motor"). It has 4 inputs & 4 outputs. The 4 stators can run on 1 input. Leaving 3 outputs to produce and collect electricity.

1+1=2... Not 11. I thought it was obvious by now

Keep it Clean and Green
Midaz

First, He has absolutely no idea, what the heck are you talking about above...just because He has not gone into our development at all, except to ask random and general questions to set the doubt here, like above.

He has not, the slightest idea... what an "Imperial" is...much less entering into details/specifics about our work modifying this type of machines.

It is a waste of space and time on this great Thread...to respond to Farmhand.

However, I appreciate your attempt...

Let Him come back in Two more years...We will be flying in our Machines by then...


Regards Dear Friend


Ufopolitics

[Midaztouch]

2 years this thread has been going, isn't it time you just demonstrated the O.U. you
claimed to be able to produce UFO ?

Will you need to instruct people for another two years first.

Or will you never show it unless one of the other builders can show it ?

Fair questions I think.

What are your claims/objectives here ? If you don't mind saying so.

You came to this site full of bluff, boast and abuse. How about showing the O.U.
or retracting the claims ?

I'll be back in 2 years time.

..
Oh one more question, can you show us one of your motors that you are using
on a day to day or regular basis to do useful work even, and show it's efficiency ?

..

Farmhand,

Let me ask you a question. If UFO and Team show you O.U., are you going to donate money to build a prototype big enough to drive a semi truck? And How much?

Now, let me leave you with some food for thought...

1.) We all know that the all north asymmetric 5 pole(2 stators/2pole north group wind)is about 51% motor and 49% generator. It has 2 inputs & 2 outputs. The 2 stators run on 1 input. Leaving 1 output to produce and collect energy.

2.) The all all north asymmetric 56 pole(4 stator/6pole north group wind, "Imperial Motor"). It has 4 inputs & 4 outputs. The 4 stators can run on 1 input. Leaving 3 outputs to produce and collect electricity.

1+1=2... Not 11. I thought it was obvious by now

Keep it Clean and Green
Midaz

[Farmhand]

Oh one more question, can you show us one of your motors that you are using
on a day to day or regular basis to do useful work even, and show it's efficiency ?

..

[Farmhand]

2 years this thread has been going, isn't it time you just demonstrated the O.U. you
claimed to be able to produce UFO ?

Will you need to instruct people for another two years first.

Or will you never show it unless one of the other builders can show it ?

Fair questions I think.

What are your claims/objectives here ? If you don't mind saying so.

You came to this site full of bluff, boast and abuse. How about showing the O.U.
or retracting the claims ?

I'll be back in 2 years time.

..

[Ufopolitics]

@Kogs

Kogs,

I added some EDIT text to previous post...please refresh screen.

Thanks

Ufopolitics

[Ufopolitics]

Imperial All North...

G'day UFO
I have been through the posts and can not see if you have decided how best to wind an Imperial P56 all North's, If you have can you direct me to the post. If Not have you done one yet and can you post it.

Kindest Regards

Hello my Dear Friend Kogs!


Yes, the Imperial All North (Groups) is below:

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Each Group is composed by Six Coils, and each Coil wraps around Five Poles, overlapping every one pole...

It is basically the same structure as I have shown to Glen on his P66, 33 Poles...same methodology...starting by G1 then doing G15, opposite by 180º...Then doing G2 and on the other end doing G16...and so on.

It is very Important to make sure that while G1 Comm Element is entering in contact with Motor Brush M1...and G2 is also in contact, but "leaving" contact...make sure the end Coil from G2 Bisector (center pole of the five) is NOT aligned with center of South Stator S1, Until it BRAKES CONTACT!...and the same alignment Must be checked between G15-G16...

On picture below of the P66:

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It shows exactly the same alignment you are going to be looking for on the P56...

Notice the Red intermittent Line belongs to the Bisector (Center) of G2, Last Coil#6 Center Pole...And the Orange Intermittent Line belongs to the SOUTH Stator Bisectors.

In the case of the 33 Poles...notice it is not possible to achieve a perfect symmetry at 180º positioning for both G2 and G19 Bisectors, related to South Stators Centers (notice angles between Orange-Red lines are different compared to opposite angles formed between same opposite Group Bisectors)...Same deal applies to North to North Bisectors, however, it is more noticeable at South...

However, in your P56, 28 Poles would be perfectly Symmetrical...due to a perfect division of the 360º Quadrant in the 28 number...while can't do it with 33 poles.

Nevertheless, the winding method is exactly the same.

It is great you are going for this Winding my Friend!...what I recommend is to do it with exactly same wire spec's and length of copper as you have built the other Imperial N-S Pairs...I believe you had 15 Turns on each Coil ...so 30 Turns Total in Pair.

So when winding Groups...You have Six Coils per Group...that would give you exactly Five Turns of wire per each coil...totaling 30 Turns per Group...

Any questions/doubts let me know...

Regards


Ufopolitics

EDIT 1: Therefore, the way I recommend to do this ...is to wind G1,G2 and opposite G15 and G16...and to find the PERFECT Comm Elements assigned for the Four Groups...you must insert it in the Stators Frame to check all this Connect-Disconnect is perfectly done at Motor Brush Contacts and Stators Center Bisectors... If you could use contact/continuity meters here to make sure...even better!...before you keep going any further.

Once You achieve this...just take it out and finish the windings...it will run perfectly fine.

[Ufopolitics]

Multi Reply...

Hello Guys,

Ok, let's start "orderly"...

@ Midaz:

One very important part to understand about Supercaps....is that when they are FULLY DISCHARGED they have absolute ZERO Resistance, this means they become a FULL SHORT CIRCUIT (NOT SO with Electrolytic Typical Types)...Supercaps become just like a thick gauge piece of copper conductor...Therefore, having this in mind...if you attach any battery to a discharged supercap...Battery starts getting extremely HOT, burning hot...so this is NOT GOOD, Battery suffers a very radical short circuit....With Lipo's they can blow out, explode...so be careful!

On a second note, if a Super Cap (SC) is connected ALWAYS as a PERMANENT CONNECTION to any type of Battery...this means we have a close loop between them, where the Higher Density currents keep traveling to the Lower Density Area, meaning, Cap will keep draining Batteries, even when you turn System OFF.

We have learned here that a CLOSED SYSTEM, an ALWAYS LOOPED Circuit, will disburse -If Any- Very Little power OUT, Both are "entertaining" each others...just like a Married Couple......So, Yes, I agree with your point, however, this connection should NOT be Permanent, but switched On-Off at the required times when we could use the MAX ends from Both (or each one independently) to our benefit.

So Far I have been showing Parallel connections between Battery-Caps...but using our Asymmetric Motor as a Buffer, a mean to "make and brake" between both worlds.

However, I know what you mean and what you want by your thoughts on the Hybrid, you just have to test it out to find out by yourself...what am talking about.

@Zardox:

Yes, you are right about a Battery being charged while it is disbursing energy...could end up damaging battery...

BUT, this depends on a couple of things...First...If Battery is FULLY Disbursing its Power Out, based on our circuitry, load, etc...of course it is obvious that sending the same Intensity currents in reversed mode will do damage it for sure.

HOWEVER, If WHILE the Battery is disbursing a LOWER DENSITY CURRENT to our Load (because of a Super Cap ASSISTANCE, for example in my set up) THEN We DO could send a HIGHER DENSITY CHARGE in Reverse to recharge it.

It is all about TRAFFIC NETWORK between Battery>>Disbursed to Load Power and the opposite: Battery<<Generating/Charging Power...where this forces must always be ASYMMETRICAL in Density, Strength and Speed...Or -which is exactly the same: INVERSELY PROPORTIONAL.

To both of You:

I don't know if anyone of you have ever taken apart a State of the Art BMS...I have, and I have repaired it, because of previous bad design, now works like a Charm......this showed me the complexity between disbursing/charging which is utilized together within the same black box...where Two Parallel 300W FET's are used to disburse big power out...and Two of the same exact type FET's are used for Charging...however, the complexity goes to the COMMON CONSTANT ROUTINE many small compact components do, traveling between each CELL and Each Bank Modules...at All Times...during charging, during disbursal of energy.


@Kogs:

Your Tests are awesome Kogs...use them for "Data Recording"...to be compared later on...therefore, do not draw final conclusions as of now, not yet...before testing the other Systems (All North) which will give you a completely different view of the whole picture..

And...even though the Supercapacitors are of very high density...they still could not be compared to the density of even a Nickel-Metal Hydrate Battery can output...therefore, balancing Banks (Batteries versus Caps) takes time to achieve the right ratios and structures...and only testing and more testing could give Us the final results/conclusions.


Regards to All


Ufopolitics

[iankoglin]

G'day UFO
I have been through the posts and can not see if you have decided how best to wind an Imperial P56 all North's, If you have can you direct me to the post. If Not have you done one yet and can you post it.

Kindest Regards

[Zardox]

Charging

Not wanting to argue the point. Just making note of my personal observations using different radiant producing devices that I have built. As far as I am aware of no one to my knowledge has been able to loop a Bedini sg or other device to keep the run battery charged for the long term without it eventually breaking down. John himself uses a battery swapping scheme.

With that being said these motors seem to bring us into uncharted territories and you clearly showed that your batteries recovered to a higher voltage after they had rested for a while. That clearly got my attention. Did you take any more readings after they sat for a longer period?

[iankoglin]

You cannot use energy from a battery and charge it at the same time. Eventually the battery would be ruined. I have destroyed a couple in learning that lesson. There would need to be circuitry to shut off a bank, charge and rest each bank similar to a Tesla switch.
It is curious though how the batteries climbed higher in voltage after they had rested. I wonder where they will sit after they have rested for say 24 hours.

Keep up the good work Kogs! Can hardly wait for the next vid.

G'day Zardox
You are Right when you say You cannot use energy from a battery and charge it at the same time.
I also have destroyed batteries by charging them while using them This is only true if you charge them using a hot charger

The charging I have noticed over the years that does not harm the battery is done by either Direct Radiant charging or charging done through a capacitor in parallel with the battery.
We have to remember that the current runs both ways through an inductor and this is the reason we find that the batteries connected to these asymmetrically modified motors are being charged as when the commutator passes the active brush the current is sharply stopped causing a rush of Radiant energy to continue along the Negative wire back into the battery and actually charges it. This is not shown until the batteries are resting and the chemical action in the battery is allowed to do its stuff.

I hope this helps
Kindest Regards


Kogs just explaining what he has experienced over the years

[iankoglin]

Hello to All,



Related to CMS (instead of BMS, or Capacitor Management System) each CELL PACK, no matter how many number of cells it contains, could be balanced easier at a "PER CELL PACK LEVEL CHARGE/BALANCING", where all are connected in Parallel...with the assistance of Electronics, of course.


Regards to All


Ufopolitics

G'day UFO my friend

How would a few of these go

http://www.aldinc.com/pdf/ALD8100xx.pdf

Kindest Regards


Kogs Shortest Post

[TheoriaApophasis]

Ufopolitics

I finally, tonight (flash of divine inspiration!) , found the LAST COFFIN NAIL proving (Ive already done it many other ways) OF PROOF that EACH SIDE of every "magnet" there is a centrifugal (divergent) vortex at the EDGE, and at the center, a CENTRIPETAL (convergent) vortex.


This should help a LOT OF PEOPLE understand things MUCH MUCH BETTER......and help the free energy community DESIGN things RIGHT, and the renewable energy folks design things RIGHT.......


, or at the VERY LEAST,....NAIL THE COFFIN SHUT , period, on ANY question of dual vortex on EACH side of every magnet

see:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dilk8gcDxac

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fwn3CqvRumg