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[shylo]

Leds

Hi Carroll,
Here's the coil,the homemade reed, and leds.
The meter is reading just above 2vdc, it it dosen't matter how many leds I add, so far.
shylo

[shylo]

To Farmhand

Hi ,Perhaps I us the term" shorting the coil " incorrectly?
That homade reed switch I'm using shorts the coil leads together with the passing of the magnets on my rotor (nsns...)
"A short circut is an unwanted shortening of the current path in a circut"
The led bridge (without the reed) stops blinking when the rpm slows down ,but with the reed connected the bridge blinks at almost a stand stil super slow rpm.
I think when the leads are shorted together nothing happens but the instant they open there is a spike ,the spike settels down, but that instantenous spike, is what can add to make for better output.
I'll keep plugggin away at it.
shylo

[Farmhand]

Hi shylo, I guess you're right I didn't really word that the best. The thing is,
most people don't do that, usually a load is between the terminals or ends of the
output coil. The question is. If you call that a "short circuit" then what is the
"normal circuit" in that setup. As you point out there is no output while the
output of the coil is shorted.

I don't consider shorting a cap to discharge it for safety to be a "short circuit"
as such. Lots of things cause voltage spikes. I don't want to go into my
opinions on shorting coils. It can be useful.

The point is an "open" switch is open, when a switch is opened it is turned off.
To turn the switch on, it is closed. This is my understanding of the accepted
meaning. Who is right and who is wrong is irrelevant, the main thing is that to
collaborate people should agree on terms. There is no need to change what is
generally accepted if it makes no real difference.

It's generally accepted that a "short circuit" is an unwanted and unintended event. But I do agree it can be done on purpose.

Keep plugging away, we all do.

Cheers

[Matthew Jones]

I have not seen any definitive evidence of more energy out of a circuit than is
put into a circuit from a supply, not in any motor or transformer switched or
otherwise without another source of energy such as wind, solar ect..

That explains why you generally have negative opinion of peoples work. I would have never continued on looking had I not seen it in the monopole..

Have you never built a monopole to spec? Or never seen a COP in your batteries charge higher than 1?

I have found about 4 ways now that prove extra energy from transient spikes. I have found how to bring them into forward time on demand to make them usable extra power.

Carroll, I am sure, will back it up. He's seen it in his own work first hand.

I am not trying beat up on ya, I just am real curious as to why you would even bother looking any further if nothing seems to work out for ya..

Matt

[citfta]

Hi Guys,

I have to agree with Matt on this one. I HAVE seen things that conventional logic says can't be. The clearest one was the time I got the Tesla Switch to run for a solid week powering its own switching circuit and a few Leds and the batteries voltages did not drop at all during that time. I was checking them every few hours and the voltage never dropped even as much as .01 volts on any of the batteries. These were the small 12 volt 7 AH batteries.

I have also a few times gotten the 3BGS to run much larger loads than it should be able to and the batteries fell very slowly or seemed to not drop at all. I know battery voltage is not a good indicator of what is really going on but after several times of doing that it sure seems like something is going on that is not explained by conventional understanding of electronics. I certainly plan to keep on working with the 3BGS until I understand it or come to the conclusion I will not be able to understand it enough to be able to use it as a reliable source of power.

I am in the process of building a new workshop area where I will be able to do more than one thing at a time and hope to try some new ideas I have seen posted lately. Hopefully I can start moving into it in a couple of weeks. I almost have all the wiring done with lots of outlets for plenty of test equipment and power supplies. I need to get some test benches and shelves built next. I wouldn't be going to all this trouble and expense if I didn't believe in the search for answers as to why some circuits seem to produce more power than they should be able to.

Later,
Carroll

[Farmhand]

That explains why you generally have negative opinion of peoples work. I would have never continued on looking had I not seen it in the monopole..

Have you never built a monopole to spec? Or never seen a COP in your batteries charge higher than 1?

I have found about 4 ways now that prove extra energy from transient spikes. I have found how to bring them into forward time on demand to make them usable extra power.

Carroll, I am sure, will back it up. He's seen it in his own work first hand.

I am not trying beat up on ya, I just am real curious as to why you would even bother looking any further if nothing seems to work out for ya..

Matt

I've got no complaints with my studies, most of the stuff I do works as I expect it to.

Show the extra energy simple, don't go on at me show something, evidence.
Anyone can say stuff.

I don't know why you would think nothing works out for me. Why would you think that.

I have a negative opinion of people claiming things but providing either no or
insufficient evidence yes.

I wouldn't say I have a negative opinion of peoples work.

Cheers

[Matthew Jones]

I don't know why you would think nothing works out for me. Why would you think that.

You said so, I'll quete it again...

I have not seen any definitive evidence of more energy out of a circuit than is
put into a circuit from a supply, not in any motor or transformer switched or
otherwise without another source of energy such as wind, solar ect..

I have not seen any convincing evidence that "extra" energy can be pulled
into a circuit by the collapsing magnetic field.

Oh well who cares.

Matt

[shylo]

To Matt

Hi, I've been doing some more experimenting ,trying to make the spikes usable. I made a second bridge that increased the output of the 1st bridge at the same rpm. So I made a 3rd bridge thinking it would also add, but it didn't work.
You said that you have found about 4 ways and to be able to use them on demand, if you have already shared this info ,could you please post links, if you haven't would you be willing to share.
I also hooked 10(20 in total now) more diodes up and the output stays the same.I don't see how this can be
I'll try and draw a schematic to show how it is hooked up.But it won't be pretty
It dosen't make sense that 20 leds' can work ,do leds' not use up the voltage produced by the coil
shylo

[s e t h]

one might think that energy is spent to build a magnetic field in a conductor/coil.
one might think the equivalent energy is returned while the field is collapsing.
one may wonder whether the spikes people see are merely part of the energy being returned during field collapse in a zero sum game or are they something else?
iether way one might think using the returned energy effectively could aid efficiency.

[Nick_Z]

One thing that would convince us that pulse circuits can pull additional ambient energy is to see a self runner, that is still running, and running, and running still.
The Pierse Arrow, Tesla's electric car may have been one of the few proven devices, but, no one can replicate it to this day.
Did he have a little coil in the box in the glove compartment, pulsing away, which could power the electric motor to run that car at 90 miles per hour?
What was in that box?
Billion dollar question...

[Farmhand]

You said so, I'll quete it again...



Oh well who cares.

Matt

Hi Matt, You made an assumption. Just because a setup doesn't harness extra
energy doesn't mean it doesn't work for me. I spent quite a bit of time
designing a boosting solar charge controller, guess what it works, it pulses the
battery when the light is low by boosting the input voltage into a cap then
dumping.
It charges with the full power of the panels in full sun and it floats the battery
when it's charged. I wanted a system to rejuvenate batteries that looks after
itself so i designed and built it, it's still in testing, been running about
2 months now works great.

Solar controller

http://i227.photobucket.com/albums/d...ller-rev-4.jpg

Testing solar controller with boost converter for input power - YouTube

Solar Boost Wave forms - YouTube

I also built an over 90% efficient boost converter with variable max voltage
and current that can do up to 70 Watts or so. It works very well also. I
wanted a variable power supply so I built it. This one has since been boxed up.

http://i227.photobucket.com/albums/d...rter-rev-1.jpg

Boost Converter - YouTube

There's not really much use to sharing these because they are custom
devices with custom code, different coils will require different settings. They
are tuned circuits as in they require tuning by a person who understands how
they work. And how to write the code or modify it, I have no teaching. The
code is all mine from what I have come to understand from my own studies,
so it might not be the best way to do it, others might not "get" it. Difficult for
me to say. I see very little interest in micro's and programming on the boards.

Pretty much everything that I expect to work does, things I sometimes don't
expect to work sometimes do. It can take me quite some time to get back to
a project I have put on the back burner. But I'm my own boss I do as I
please. If I really want or need something in my capabilities I get it done.

As far as experimenting goes a result is success the nature of the result is
irrelevant. At the moment I am in the experimenting mode. I expect anything.

Both of these devices use ONLY free energy from the sun, Sol. There is
no gain to be made, it is already done. I have no real desire to try to make
free energy from free energy, I doubt that will happen but I won't deny it if it
does. I have no reason to do that.

Cheers

[Duncan]

Hi again Farmhand .. I note that the thread is opened to discuss the forum in general and as you know I have stated elsewhere that I have a jaundice view of your contributions , Like Matt I ponder why If you have convinced yourself that COP>1 isn't possible after many years on forum why you should still Dally here ? After all there are many forums dedicated to to standard electronic hobby construction of the ohms law variety.
Many here have witnessed and built systems that run COP > 1 even if they are having a huge amount of difficulty replicating or explaining the operation in scientific terms after all such a system certainly will not conform to standard dogma.
If one assumes that the hundreds of people who have demonstrated COP > 1 systems are not liars or con men where does that lead us ? To what sort of level must OU forums and platforms just like this one be monitored and infiltrated by paid agents in order to alter the trend of thought and miss direct and suppress the investigation ? It is my opinion that the figure must be huge and with out rancour I have personally put you in this category. You are certainly very adept at taking the wind out of peoples sails ! (which I of course view as your “day job”)... leading us a dance
It is noted and well known Farmhand that folks who develop and demonstrate very efficient COP>1
systems certainly can't look forward to a profitable future, Indeed It rather seems to me that in the “land of the free” they are very lucky if they manage to stay alive for a short time. As demonstrated here by these guys having a good giggle over the inevitable slaughter of Stan
Opie & Anthony: Stan Meyer's Water Car - YouTube
Note The fate of the running “looped” RV system
Rotoverter Technology was OU before ORBO one.
All in all if an inventor develops a replicable efficient system the very last place to post full construction details would be in the wolfs den!
Again Its very much a case of personal conjecture but I rather think the world political power and financial systems follow the patterns pretty much laid out in the following quite aged clips and films
The Energy Non-Crisis
Confessions of an Economic Hit Man - YouTube
EndGame HQ full length version - YouTube
I have already seen some of your construction work farmhand and am impressed, I also note that you have spent spent a deal of study time on “Tesla” In the doubtful event that you really haven’t seen any of these systems from Bedini's Monopoles to Tesla's linear wave systems exhibiting COP>1 tendencies then I recommend that you buy the Tesla Kits and tuned systems constructed by the graduates and sold under a “no profit” licence by Prof Meyl via the Universities demonstrating a COP of +1000%
as outlined in this film.
Prof. Konstantin Meyl the New Tesla on Vimeo
I rather hope that you will find the courage to “turn coat” and become a force for advancement and good... after all the dam walls are about to give way anyway despite the efforts of your Ilk

[dR-Green]

I recommend that you buy the Tesla Kits and tuned systems constructed by the graduates and sold under a “no profit” licence by Prof Meyl via the Universities demonstrating a COP of +1000%

I'm sorry but that's a lot of poppycock. Claims with no proof at all.

It is noted and well known Farmhand that folks who develop and demonstrate very efficient COP>1
systems certainly can't look forward to a profitable future

Except for Meyl it seems, who gets to churn them out through universities

[edit] Although, Meyl hasn't demonstrated anything so I suppose he's safe. In that case, I'll sell you some COP>1000 coils if you like

[Duncan]

I'm sorry but that's a lot of poppycock. Claims with no proof at all.



Except for Meyl it seems, who gets to churn them out through universities

[edit] Although, Meyl hasn't demonstrated anything so I suppose he's safe. In that case, I'll sell you some COP>1000 coils if you like

It would seem you comment whilst not watching the interview ... Meyl states "He takes no profit from these kits" as a Prof in the pay of the government he would never dare to make such a statement in the name of major universites were it not true .... please watch the clip before making abstract uninformed worthless comments! almost as dud as farmhands patter ... at least he watches or reads the presented info

[dR-Green]

It would seem you comment whilst not watching the interview ... Meyl states "He takes no profit from these kits" as a Prof in the pay of the government he would never dare to make such a statement in the name of major universites were it not true .... please watch the clip before making abstract uninformed worthless comments! almost as dud as farmhands patter ... at least he watches or reads the presented info

I looked and only saw an image, I read the text. The COP claims have been made long ago, and still there is no proof of anything.

If you consider asking for proof to be a dud comment then I'll say again, I'll sell you some COP>1000 coils and systems if you like. No problem.