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[bistander]

Success

Hi wantomake,

Please forgive my approach here, but I am really curious as to what success means to you. Was it simply a rotating machine? Did you put it to use? Did you measure output/input? Can refer back to a post number so I might take a look at it? How do you feel you benefit from it rather than using an off-the-shelf product?

Thanks,

bistander

[bistander]

Statement

I want to be clear that my intention is to stand in nobody's way unless that person is a fraud, liar, cheat, crook or otherwise a person of bad or evil intent. With regards to Ufopolitics specifically, I am not standing in his way. I am questioning statements from him which are erroneous, vague or unfounded, and also seeking proof to his claims. What's wrong with that?

Hopefully understood,

bistander

[Ernst]

Ufopolitics,
Thanks for your stand for free sharing and how you understand this free energy movement. I've enjoyed reading and learning from you. Your motor generator setup is the ONLY success I've built so far.

There will always be those that stand in the way of progress in this endeavor to be free. It proves you hold a place bere on this forum to help us finish this fight.

I look forward to any way i can stand with you in the future.
wantomake

I think MANY of us would like to see more details of your success.
Could you make a video and enlighten us all?


Ernst.

[Dave45]

Carrol
Iv been thinking about current moving from neg to pos inside the battery, i dont think this is happening imo, a simple battery charging circuit pulls electrons from the pos to the neg ie charging the battery.

A generator actually pulls electrons from the ambient via the eddy currents around the magnet. When the magnet passes the ferrous core the ferrous core shares the magnets magnetic field and also its eddy currents, when the magnet passes the ferrous core the eddy currents collapse into the windings wound on the ferrous core.

[Ufopolitics]

I want to be clear that my intention is to stand in nobody's way unless that person is a fraud, liar, cheat, crook or otherwise a person of bad or evil intent.

But of course, must of Us here understand very clear your Police job...which is appreciated , but up to a point.

With regards to Ufopolitics specifically, I am not standing in his way.

Really?...I wonder how it will go if you REALLY did?

As a matter of fact, I have NOT seen You go after any "fraud, liar, cheat, crook or otherwise a person of bad or evil intent" on this entire Forum..like you have gone after me on every single post I upload here.

Why Bistander?...Do You consider Me as portraying any of your above described "attributes"?

I am questioning statements from him which are erroneous,

"Erroneous" according to whatever you have irremediable encrusted in your brain, according to your Academic Classic understanding...Which is NOT MY FAULT, and IT IS NOT NECESSARILY THE REALITY NOR THE TRUTH.

vague or unfounded,

Vague?...Can't be "vague" when I am so specific and to the point, technically and graphically to the max expression possible.

Unfounded?...I have repeated several times where all this Scam is founded from...many times.

and also seeking proof to his claims.

Proof?...Every single proof that I have presented here, through awesome and very clear videos, graphics, pictures, CAD's etc,etc, you ALWAYS find a "Second Interpretation" to render your OPINIONS, even being JUST A "POSSIBILITY" ...BUT, that happens to always point away from my expressed views, using the incomplete, and full of gaps, broken chains "CLASSIC EXPLANATIONS" ...like lately is taking place about MAGNETISM.

What's wrong with that?

What is wrong with that?...I will just let another Member in this Forum answer that part to You:

@ Bistander.

Why can’t you just allow UFO to explain the topic at hand, an alternative theory and concept concerning magnetism and allow UFO to work up of a solid explanation without the continuous rebuttal from yourself, always referring back to the standard concepts of magnetism?

It’s sometimes helpful to point out the differences, or reference against the standard model, but most of the time it is rather annoying and distracting. (That’s the point of it, isn’t it)?

The standard concepts of magnetism are fully established and are taught in the current curriculum. – It is accepted and understood, (well sort of).

There are alternative theories and concepts that may also explain the magnetic phenomena. So this thread that UFO conceived should have a clear path set fourth, for him to explain what he’s trying to convey to us.

– You’re not being the innocent bistander, you’re standing in the way.

It is similar to the case of the Electric Universe Theory. The resistance by the mainstream to the concept is remarkable (because it will bring down their house of cards). But the EU Theory is growing stronger and stronger with each year with many scientists supporting it, along with the experimental support.

@ UFO, Thank you for your efforts with this thread and explaining things clearly including the use of fantastic graphics & videos. I’m learning from it and I’m sure there are others here doing the same. – Insert words of support here!

Sputins.

Hopefully understood,

bistander

Not Understood and Not accepted. Unless you really express here to this Public Audience your true feelings and main purpose that would REALLY JUSTIFY YOUR CONSTANT AND REPETITIVE DISRUPTING BEHAVIOR against Me on anything I post on this entire Forum.


Ufopolitics

[bistander]

Hi Ufo, as I told Sputins:

All he has to do to get me off his back is answer my questions and prove he has what he claims. Instead he evades giving answers and supporting his statements and claims. He chooses to ridicule, belittle, insult and bully anyone who disagrees with him.

[bistander]

Vague?...Can't be "vague" when I am so specific and to the point, technically and graphically to the max expression possible.

Unfounded?...I have repeated several times where all this Scam is founded from...many times.

I think you're vague right here. It sounds like you admit to your scam and state that you have many times repeated where your scam is founded.

I consider your obvious difficulty with the language, but still, much of what you write is confusing to the point I think you do it on purpose to evade answering and to obscure your previous mistakes.

[Ufopolitics]

Hi Ufo, as I told Sputins:

Originally Posted by bistander
All he has to do to get me off his back is answer my questions and prove he has what he claims. Instead he evades giving answers and supporting his statements and claims. He chooses to ridicule, belittle, insult and bully anyone who disagrees with him.

Why do I have to STOP, just to answer Your "HONOR" , YOUR DISRUPTIVE and REPETITIVE QUESTIONS ON MY THREAD, while I am in the middle of an explanation that may take several posts??

You repeat ALL MY POSTS FULL OF GRAPHICS AND EXPLANATIONS MAKING PAGES EXTREMELY LONG, (ANYONE JUST GO TO MY THREAD LATEST PAGES AND READ) JUST TO ADD YOUR "SHORT" DISRUPTIONS.

WHY?!

The Main Purpose of a Member opening HIS OWN THREAD ON THIS FORUM, is to be able to express Himself/herself OPENLY AND WITHOUT OTHER MEMBERS CONSTANT, DISRUPTIVE, AND ANNOYING INTERRUPTIONS WHICH COMPLETELY CUTS THE PROGRESSIVE, EVOLUTIVE DISCLOSURE OF A MAIN IDEA, PROJECT OR THEORY.

[Ufopolitics]

I think you're vague right here. It sounds like you admit to your scam and state that you have many times repeated where your scam is founded.

That is what your very NARROW MIND , INTENTIONALLY AND CONSTANTLY TRY TO DO, RIDICULIZE OTHERS, by not "expressing properly" according to your expectations.

I consider your obvious difficulty with the language,

I have absolutely ZERO difficulties with this Language.

BUT, BY THE WAY, HOW MANY MORE LANGUAGES -BESIDES ENGLISH- DO YOU FLUENTLY WRITE AND SPEAK??

but still, much of what you write is confusing to the point I think you do it on purpose to evade answering and to obscure your previous mistakes.

IT MAY BE CONFUSING TO YOU...NOT ACCORDING TO OTHERS, READ THEIR COMMENTS.

AND NOW YOU ARE "ACCUSING ME" TO DO IT "ON PURPOSE"?

[citfta]

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This is the way I picture the output possible hookup...

Main +15V and -15V will output DC 15V...Simple.

Now, I believe if we use the T1 Neutral versus both DC outputs we will read approx(it could read above and below) 12.6 V...

Maybe I have the current directions wrong (Red Arrows)...so, Bistander or anyone else could correct me if am wrong above.

UFO is claiming he doesn't post incorrect or misleading information. But this post is full of misinformation. See the following post for the correct analysis of this circuit.

[citfta]

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My reply to UFO's confusion about this circuit.

For those of you confused by a dual voltage power supply I will try to explain it in simple terms. I have copied the schematic so it will be easier for you to follow. Let's start with the transformer. In this schematic we have a center tapped transformer that is labelled 12.6-0-12.6. The conventional way of marking a transformer is to use the RMS value for the voltage as that is what most AC meters will show when connected to the leads on the transformer. So from the top of the transformer to the center tap we have 12.6 volts RMS and from the bottom connection to the center tap we also have 12.6 volts RMS.

RMS stands for root means squared which is a way of calculating the average voltage of a sine wave. However the actual voltage peaks are 1.414 times the average or in this case 17.8164 which we will round off to 17.8 volts. Why is that important? If you look at the full wave bridge rectifier you will see that it is connected to the two outside legs of the transformer. So the bridge rectifier is rectifying about 35.6 volts minus about 1.4 volts for the drop across the diodes in the bridge.

What else do we see in the bridge circuit? We see that the center tap of the transformer is connected to ground and there are two capacitors that each have one end of them connected to ground. The ground connection is the little triangle at the end of the line away from the transformer. With the center tap connected to the capacitors and them connected to the bridge in this way each cap will then charge to close to the value of the peaks of the sine wave. So each cap will have a charge on it of close to 16 volts or so.

The designer of this circuit apparently wanted pretty good control of the voltages so he or she added a couple of voltage regulators for the plus and minus voltages to keep the voltages from going over the plus or minus 15 volts desired.

So for our output we now have a voltage that is plus 15 volts in reference to ground. And we have a voltage that is minus 15 volts in reference to ground.
And since one is 15 volts above ground and one is 15 volts below ground if we were to combine them we would have a 30 volt difference. So you can see the voltage values marked in blue are wrong.

While I am trying to educate a little those that would like to learn let's talk a little bit about current. In most of the old school discussions about electricity, electricity is often compared to water. And there are some pretty good analogies in that comparison. Most of you are probably familiar with the expression of gallons per minute. What does that tell us. Well we can be pretty sure that means some water is moving and the value of the gallons per minute tells us how much water is moving.

In electricity amperage means basically the same thing as gallons per minute means in water. Amperage is just a measure of how much electricity is moving. The word current just means there is some electricity moving. It means the same thing as flow means in water. If there is no flow there are no gallons per minute to measure. In electricity if there are no electrons moving there is no current to measure.

I sincerely hope this helps some of you.
Carroll

If you look at the original thread you will see even UFO had to agree with my analysis.

[citfta]

In regard to my two previous posts the question is why did Ufo incorrectly analyze the dual voltage power supply? I can only guess but I see two possibilities. Either he didn't really understand the circuit even though he claims to be a great authority on all things electrical or he was being deliberately misleading. I really don't know the answer to that question. I am hoping the first reason is the correct one. But his over-reaction to my suggesting we might have deliberate misinformation agents on this forum certainly leads to a lot of suspicion about the second option.

[bistander]

I agree with the following assessment:

It is a fact that you have single-handedly lowered the standards on this forum. Never before you, or since you, have I come across any individual who will shamelessly insult, attack, discredit and target anyone on the personal level in an effort to get "the audience" on your side simply because that person DARED to question your opinion. You simply cannot handle being questioned in public, as if it's a disgrace. But the worst part is how you deal with it. You call everyone a shill if they disagree with YOU, then you set about trying to attack their character, undermining them and trying to make them look foolish as if you're trying to convince "the audience".

This was directed to Ufopolitics.

[Ufopolitics]

UFO is claiming he doesn't post incorrect or misleading information. But this post is full of misinformation. See the following post for the correct analysis of this circuit.

That was absolutely NOT a "Misleading Information" NOR a "Misinformation" .

The Post contains a "POSSIBLE" word and then I posted:

This is the way I picture the output possible hookup...

Then I wrote:

...so, Bistander or anyone else could correct me if am wrong above.

That is called simply "Acceptance of Error Possibility", to the point to ask for any corrections.

Making an error in a Post or in a Graphic is only HUMAN.

An Error can NOT be taken and judged that lightly and easily converting it into a Conviction about false, misleading or misinformation.

That is a serious accusation and defamation to the person making the error, accusing He or She did it on purpose to mislead other Members on this Forum.

This is a Scientific Forum, we exchange here constantly many possibilities, theories, ideas, inventions, lab work, results, etc,etc along with the supposed diagrams, graphics, CAD's, Videos, and so a lot of info, and errors are very possible from anyone of the participating members, basically when those Diagrams, CAD's, Images etc, are made originally by the person posting them, and NOT just grabbed freely from Online and Reviewed Sources.


Ufopolitics

[Ufopolitics]

I agree with the following assessment:

Originally Posted by dR-Green

It is a fact that you have single-handedly lowered the standards on this forum. Never before you, or since you, have I come across any individual who will shamelessly insult, attack, discredit and target anyone on the personal level in an effort to get "the audience" on your side simply because that person DARED to question your opinion. You simply cannot handle being questioned in public, as if it's a disgrace. But the worst part is how you deal with it. You call everyone a shill if they disagree with YOU, then you set about trying to attack their character, undermining them and trying to make them look foolish as if you're trying to convince "the audience".

This was directed to Ufopolitics.

That was dR-Green's opinion about me, as I see you also agree to it.

Now go to ALL MY THREADS and find out how many Positive Opinions I have there plus in many other Threads which are not mine.

Then do a simple Math...Compare Positives to Negatives.

Now what?