Wardenclyffe - Tesla's true intention

[GSM]

And the lidless 'sarcophacus' within the 'king's camber' of the giant pyramid in Egypt......
a high voltage capacitor once covered in metal ?
the metal surfaced top of the pyramid being its charging/ discharging electrode ?
had there been a large coil within the central gallery ?
elecrostatic to current transformation via series resonance ?
did the wings of the cherubs on top of an Ark form a sparking capacitor ?
with secondary take off to illuminate pyramid/ palace lighting ?

Did Moses not receive priestly (electrical) training in Egypt and take the Biblical acacia box covered with gold Ark with him ?

[GSM]

Wouldn't a highly charged capacitor box, the Ark, which could not be opened without rotating the winged golden cherub latches (these being the capacitor terminals) be an extremely safe place for priests to keep from the interference of man, the word of God ?

[TeslaSecrets]

Tesla's Wardenclyffe tower, the pyramid, and the ark of the covenant, three completely separate devices, but is there a connection?

First, you have all likely heard the pyramid incorporates many mathematical constant and measurements, which can be related not only to the dimensions and characteristics of the Earth, but also features of the Sun and solar system as well. I will be honest and say I was always very skeptical about finding such numbers and relationships within the dimensions of the pyramid, but have had someone recently change my mind in this respect. Let me explain and you too can judge the relevance and check these calculations for yourself, as I did.

I will here point out the Royal Cubit, is the units which were used to construct both the ark and the pyramid. One Royal Cubit has been calculated as 0.524 meters. Each base side was 440 cubits, 230.4 meters (755.9 ft) long. This was the finished dimensions and is accurate.

Great Pyramid of Giza - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Now think of the square base of the pyramid, each side is 230.4 meters long. We can inscribe a circle within this square and inscribe a circle outside this square, which both touch the square. The inner circle will have a circumference which is simple PI * Diameter, diameter being the same as the length of a side. For the outer circle we must use Pythagoras Theorem ( which came from Egypt I might add ), to calculate the length of the diagonal of the square, which gives us the diameter of the outer circle, with which we can calculate circumference of the outer circle.

So for the outer circle we get circumference equal to

PI * root( (230.4^2) * 2 ) = 1023.64023

For the inner circle we get circumference equal to

PI * 230.4 = 723.82295

None of this is complex math nor bending the numbers, we even know PI is incorporated in the dimensions as well.

Things get really interesting when we now minus the inner circles circumference from the outer circles circumference and get the value:

1023.64023 - 723.82295 = 299.81728

Which is remarkably close to the value:

299,792

Speed of light - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


Now what are we to make of this? Coincidence seems completely improbable in this case. However, we need not necessarily jump to the conclusion our ancestors knew the Speed of Light, as there is a better explanation which accounts for the other relationships we find in the pyramid.

It is likely the ancients understood the concept of a fundamental harmonic vibration on the surface of the Earth( not necessarily electromagnetic ), for lack of a more appropriate terminology. The Pyramid was built to have dimensions which express a harmonic recursive or fractal function which operates in our Universe. All matter obeys this function and we have reference to this ancient idea in the writings of Hermes Trimegistus, who said "As it is Above, So it is Below"( also from Egypt ). Current research into quantum holography is just now beginning to see this possibility.

The Royal Cubit seems to be the standard or fundamental frequency upon which buildings or devices can be built, in such a way, so as to resonate with the natural Earth oscillations of energy around them. Of course we would be able to get the speed of light out of such a function, because the velocity of a wave is always related to its frequency and wavelength. If the pyramid was designed to resound with some form of vibrating energy, we would expect to see the wavelengths and frequencies of this energy, reflected in the dimensions of the object. The dimensions would be related to the wavelengths and velocity of the vibrations used. Just like a musical instrument or Tesla coil. And thus from wavelength and frequency we can get a velocity.

There is an interesting suggestion that Moses and the Egyptian Pharaoh Akhenaten are one in the same, the origin of Monotheism. It would make sense, on exile, Akhenaten took his ideas and technology with him, in some form. A portable demonstration of his "Godly" powers if you will. The ark could have responded somehow to the sounds of chanting if properly designed.

One more thing, the ark was meant to sit in a small temple and likely the temple was a critical component in its operation. The temple was like a tent, but one feature I found interesting is the walls where made insulating by using silk suspended into oil containers below, so the silk would soak up this oil, thereby improving its insulating properties. Likewise the wood used was likely chosen for its dielectric properties, very dry dense wood would be good. The dimensions of the temple and the ark, are likewise in cubits and the relationships between the two defined very specifically. Obviously this was more than a simple gold box. The information contained "within" the ark, may have been done so in an "electromagnetic" fashion. We do this quite easily today.

I think the idea of it as a defense system or safe for the knowledge is good. It was too though a demonstration of the greater invisible powers available to man, which to the uneducated would appear as God manifest. If these two men are the same, then we can see a reason why people were more prone to actually believe what Moses was saying, he had some physical demonstration of his power, which people could see, hear, feel with their own senses.

Moses was not just a preacher of words. Perhaps Moses, Akhenaten and Tesla were all three, natural scientists of great genius.

We can bring this all back to Tesla's Wardenclyffe tower, if we accept that all three of these systems, the Wardenclyffe tower, the pyramid and the ark, were all designed to harmonize or resound with some Natural Vibration occurring upon the surface of the Earth. No doubt Tesla's tower had dimensions which were related to the Earth's dimensions and we know the speed of light would show up in Tesla's calculation's.

We cannot assume we use the same vibrations or technology in our current power systems though, for in fact we do not. They are very different technologies in many respects. We will find relationships to our electromagnetic field concepts, but there are further principles we do not yet fully grasp, despite our arrogant proclamations of being more advanced then these ancient civilizations.

One thing is absolutely certain, the social, spiritual or religious aspects of this technology, have completely eluded us in modern times.

[Ernst]

I have personally checked all theories that I have come across concerning the piramids. I have found that you should try to get the exact sizes as they are today, they are available with a 1 cm precision (or maybe even better). Then check the calculations with your exact values, and you will see that on almost every occasion the numbers have been slightly modified to fit the theory. Some theories do indeed hold but I believe they may have been a result of the way this structure was build (tools etc).

Concerning the speed of light theory, unfortunately that can not hold. You said it yourself; the royal cubit was a measure of length, the meter did not exist at that time and neither did the second. Hence the unit m/s was unknown. Isn't it a tiny bit illogical to express the speed of light in a unit that you do not know of, and even more so, that the numeric value is derived from a different unit of length.

Remember that the piramids contain many points that can be measured, giving lots of numerical data. If you try a bit you can derive many random numbers from these values, even your own birthday. And if the numbers are slightly of, then you just round it up or down a bit. That is what these people seem to be doing.

Having said all that, I absolutely agree with your final statement:

We cannot assume we use the same vibrations or technology in our current power systems though, for in fact we do not. They are very different technologies in many respects. We will find relationships to our electromagnetic field concepts, but there are further principles we do not yet fully grasp, despite our arrogant proclamations of being more advanced then these ancient civilizations.

One thing is absolutely certain, the social, spiritual or religious aspects of this technology, have completely eluded us in modern times.

Back to Wardenclyffe. My first assumption that there is a 'longitudinal electric' coupling between the 'free system' and the 'distribution system' (see 'rare notes') has proven not to be true. My experiments together with Tesla's statements (mainly that the 'free system' uses harmonic oscillations) disprove this assumption.
Luckily my experiments also show a new and even more probable way that this system should have been generating electricity.
Come to think of it, it even matches my first post here much more closely.

We all know, that the earth is electrically charged. This charge must lead to a certain electric potential. There must of course be a reason for this charge/potential; there must be some process that creates and/or maintains it. So if we take some charge out of our planet, this process will fill it up again. (Of course this can be done on a smaller scale as well.) I believe I have seen that there is such a process working at about 3 or 1.5 Hz.
(has someone here seen or read about this before?)
If this is true then if we could construct an antenna for this frequency, we have an unlimmited source of energy. How do we create such an antenna?
Simply by finding a way to transmit on this frequency and that is something Wardenclyffe certainly could have done.

Ernst.

[GSM]

We all know, that the earth is electrically charged. This charge must lead to a certain electric potential. There must of course be a reason for this charge/potential; there must be some process that creates and/or maintains it. So if we take some charge out of our planet, this process will fill it up again. (Of course this can be done on a smaller scale as well.) I believe I have seen that there is such a process working at about 3 or 1.5 Hz.
(has someone here seen or read about this before?)
If this is true then if we could construct an antenna for this frequency, we have an unlimmited source of energy. How do we create such an antenna?
Simply by finding a way to transmit on this frequency and that is something Wardenclyffe certainly could have done.

Ernst.

Solar magnetosphere-atmosphere relationships as monitored via a large magnetometer inductance.
However this energy is grossly inconstant, as may be illustrated by checking the current display.
Induction Magnetometer
Also grossly inefficient to transduce.

Cheers .......... Graham.

[Hobby Eon]

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Can we stay on topic now ?

[TeslaSecrets]

@Ernst

I understand your argument, but it seems you do not fully grasp mine.
There are numerous examples of this number fudging in regards to the pyramid, but I assure you my technique is sound and accurate. In fact the numbers themselves are not really the important point here, it is the ratios the numbers referred too which is important. This may seem off topic at first, but you should read more carefully as the connection seems quite apparent to me.

We can convert to meters from the Royal Cubit, its just a unit conversion, and does not require the Egyptians to have had knowledge of meters. We can convert Royal Cubits to feet or inches and this calculation will still work. Changing units does not effect the significance of the calculation. We do unit conversions all the time in math. We could convert all of physics to Royal Cubits if we liked, its just units. We convert from metric to your standard all the time, do we not?

Furthermore, the meter is in fact, a unit based upon some natural dimensions and is not an arbitrarily chosen unit. In this respect it was chosen in the same fashion as the Royal Cubit. The meter is related to the dimensions of the Earth, or to atomic wavelengths, so it is already related to these fundamental frequencies or harmonics. We have to choose units which have some physically real reference. Standard units are so based as well, but in a way which has changed greatly through the years. There is a good reason scientists primarily use metric.

I did not adjust any numbers as you so quickly assumed or suggested, which you would know if you had done the calculation yourself. I plugged in the same exact numbers given in the wikepedia article linked. In fact, as you can see from my calculations, I rounded off parts of the exact calculations( to 5 decimal places ), which DECREASES the accuracy of any result, not improves it as you say. This is really simple grade school math I am doing, anyone with high school education should be able to follow this and see that I am not adjusting the numbers in anyway.

It does not matter really the exact value of the Royal Cubit anyway, even if we use values for the Cubit plus or minus a certain amount, we still get a number which is extremely close to the unit value of the speed of light. I say unit value, because it is the ratio which is far more important, as I pointed out earlier.

The Egyptians did not need to know m/s or feet/s, they didn't use these units, they used Royal Cubits. Nevertheless, they could calculate a speed for the waves they were dealing with, in their own units. This is just a standard wave velocity equation, which I am arguing the Egyptians KNEW. I did not say the Egyptians knew the speed of light in meters per second. They knew a number which they could use to calculate the velocity of the waves which they were dealing with.

All I implied was the Egyptians knew the Velocity of the Waves they were dealing with. The Egyptians clearly had knowledge of wave functions, especially the relationship of wavelength to velocity, and of the harmonic relationships for standing waves. I did not say they understood our current concept of The speed of light as a limit or any other relationships we use this value in. So you can still maintain your mental superiority over these ancients if you like.

This is one of the original and most accurate determinations of the value of the Royal Cubit. Note it is to within an accuracy of +- 2 millimeters, which is +- 0.078 inches.

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Generally the Royal cubit is understood to have been 524 millimeters +/- 2mm (20.63 inches) in length. Professor Flinders Petrie, who is regarded as the founder of Egyptology, and had studied the Temples and Buildings of Ancient Egypt with utmost exactitude in the 1880's assigned a value for the Royal Cubit of 20.632 +/- .004 Imperial British Inches based for the most part on the dimensions found within the King’s Chamber in the Great Pyramid(3)

3. Petrie, Flinders, W. M., The Temples and Pyramids of Gizeh, 1883, petrie Chapter 7, Section 52.
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In fact, use whatever reference for the Royal Cubit you like, and you will still get a number in the Ball Park for the Unit ratio of the Speed of Light. Using the numbers above, using 20 decimal places( which essentially eliminates any rounding errors ) I get a value of 300.025 ( which I have only rounded at the LAST step ) which is still very close, a difference of less than 0.1%. Please show me where I am fudging these numbers or is this math beyond your comprehension??

Now when people say this has no relevance to our topic here, again you are failing to see the whole picture and seem to be lacking in knowledge as to how velocities of waves are related to their frequencies and wavelengths.
Especially in regard to electromagnetic waves and most importantly to mechanical waves and how they exist upon and around our Earth.

Wave Velocity = Frequency / Wavelength

Tesla knew the velocity of the waves he was dealing with as well. You need to know this velocity relationship to determine the length of the coil, for a given frequency. Tesla used a simple back of the napkin calculation to get the frequency from the length of wire in his coils, which is based on the speed of light. If you know how long it takes light to travel back and forth in a wire, because you know the length of wire, you can calculate travel time for the wave, so as to calculate frequency and set up standing waves and harmonics. Even with a rough value of the speed of light as 300 instead of 299, we can still get useful approximations for constructing such a coil.

A Tesla coil is exactly this, a standing wave within the coil, which is related to the speed of light, which is the propagation velocity of the wave in the coil. The frequency of the coil can be approximated if we simply know the length of the wire in the coil. Our current inductance calculation is basically the same thing, except we are getting the length of wire from a helical winding usually.

If there is any natural force opposed to the introduction of Tesla's ideas, it is simply common stupidity and our egotistical arrogant nature. We do not have free energy yet, because the people still are not ready to accept the social, religious or spiritual implications of this knowledge.

[GSM]

Maybe Graham is interested in this one: US 4835433 specialy the look of it.

Can we stay on topic now ?

Pot - kettle - LOL.

Yes that very clever guy Paul Maurice Brown had developed 10 year nuclear batteries little larger than a 'D' cell.
He proved exaclty not only what IS real-world possible, but exactly what it is that we are NOT allowed !

http://www.rafoeg.de/20,Dokumentenar...LENERGY%20.pdf

The Strange Life and Stranger Death of Paul Brown - Autoweek

So very sad. RIP.

[GSM]

We do not have free energy yet, because the people still are not ready to accept the social, religious or spiritual implications of this knowledge.

We do, and the people are ready, but TPTB are not, so they religiously kill designers and suppress their equipments.

[Ernst]

@TeslaSecrets,
I am not saying that your calculations are incorrect or that you changed the numbers to fit your theory. I said that this sort of thing happens all the time and people draw conclusions that do appear invalid to me. I am sorry if I have led you to believe that these general remarks were concerning your theory.

OK. Let's look at your theory then:
You said the sides of the piramids are all 230.4 m. To be more accurate N and S are 230.25, E is 230.39 and W is 230.36. If we round these numbers to 3 digits, I can go along with your statement. Then the outer circle is 1023.64023 meters and the inner circle
723.82295 meter, as you said. But remember we can only use 3 significant digits.
You subtract these values to arive at 299.81728 meters. Correct, but again I must point out that only 3 digits are thrustworthy. So we should say 300.
We have used meters as our unit in these calculations so this value can represent 300 meters.
If we were using a different unit we would arrive at a different numerical value representing the same distance.
Now you say this represents the speed of light. I say, it does not, because it is a distance not a speed. A speed is the ratio of distance and time so we have to introduce a new unit here; a unit for time.
This distance now happens to be very close to the distance that light travels in 1 micro second. So ONLY if we take 1 micro second as our time unit, then this distance can be related to the speed of light. Any other time base would yield a different distance.
I do not consider it very likely that the builders of the piramids were familiar with the 'micro second', hence I do not believe that this should be linked to the speed of light.
This distance (300m) is also the distance sound travels in 1 second at an altitude of 10 Km, but again I do not believe these people were aware of our 'second', which is actually crucial for your theory.
I am not saying your theory is wrong. I am saying I do not believe it.

@ GSM,
Thanks for the link! That could indeed be the source of the effect that I was seeing (flashes of light in an unconnected fluorescent tube near my coils, after they were switched off). I think 1.5 Hz (+ 0 - 0 + ... etc) is more likely than 3 Hz (+ 0 + 0 ... etc).
I also noticed that the intensity of this effect varies a lot over the day, which also seems to be consistent with your explaination.

Ernst.

[TeslaSecrets]

@ Ernst

So your saying the Egyptian year and day were different than our year and day??

1 year = 365.25 days, 1 day = 24 hrs, 1 hr = 60 min, 1 min = 60 sec etc etc

For these are a standard time calculation based on the rotation of the Earth divided into degrees. Again this is simple geometry. Again the Egyptian concept of time and our concept of time are very similar I would say. The concept of divisions of time is related to the Earth in the same fashion as length is.

If people are unwilling to except our ancestors had the same drive, dreams, vision and intelligence as we do today, then we are not ready to accept "free energy" technology. I do not follow the desire for people to consider ancient people's intelligence as decreasing as we go back in time. Perhaps their science was different then ours, but I do not think we can so quickly assume it was a lesser science than ours. I am more of the mind I can learn something from every person I meet, and every culture I study.

A brilliant archaeologist once made the conclusion,( and probably lost all his funding because of it), "It is as if the ancients' skill in working stone, actually improves as we go back in time, not forward in time, as if the skill was perfected in far earlier times, and then gradually lost over the ages.

Do people really believe the way our science works today, is the full and complete final answer? Is our current science the only way to understand the Universe?? Could there not be other interpretations or are we truly the only real science, is our science perfect? From my perspective it seems the Egyptian science and many other ancient cultures technical achievements actually provide a better answer to many questions which are currently unresolved in our so called advanced science. Especially when it comes to the social, religious and spiritual implications of the science.

Look at the state of the world today. Clearly our technology does not take into consideration our fragile relationship with the Earth. We consider some of these ancient cultures as stupid barbaric natives, and yet many of these cultures persisted for thousands of years, and could have done so for many hundreds of years more, without negative impact upon the Earth. Something we cannot, or will not, do today.

To us the Earth is a free supermarket, from which we take and take and take, and never give anything back. Rest assured there are natural mechanisms within the Earth to remedy such imbalance. The Egyptians and many other cultures knew this, and thus had far more respect for the Earth than we do. To think we cannot learn from these cultures is naive and arrogant. To put ourselves on a pedestal above the very forces and laws which create, nourish and sustain us, is naive and arrogant. We act like the angry teenager telling their parents they wish they had never been born.

I just cannot comprehend how we can so arrogantly claim to be the most advanced culture to have ever lived, when we must also admit we really do not have the answers and are in fact also the most destructive culture to have ever lived. Barbarians with guns and nuclear bombs instead of bows and arrows, are still barbarians.

Please enlighten me as to how we are social, religiously and spiritual ready for this new scientific understanding, for I seem to see things much differently. I see us using this technology just to develop more efficient ways to kill each other, not help each other. I do not blame some elite for this, if they have any power it is only because we have allowed them this power. A minority can only control a majority, if the majority allows it. A majority working TOGETHER can easily overthrow any minority. A government should fear its people, not the people fear the government.

We are stuck or trapped only because we are thinking as individuals, our social understanding is non-existant. So long as two individuals cannot get along, we can never expect whole countries to get along. So long as we hold onto these individualistic, nationalistic, and religious differences, we are not ready for "free energy".

Honestly, if someone on this forum actually discovered this "free energy", what would be their intention for the knowledge??
If one only desires to patent it, become famous and make millions, then I would say one is really missing the whole point.

[TeslaSecrets]

Imagine if your very own right hand decided it was an individual, decided it didn't believe in you anymore and decided it knew how to do things better. From the broader perspective we see the foolishness of the hands attitude, as it is part of a greater whole. Yet, so many people today, do exactly this. Could we not describe the human mass on this planet, as a body in which each part is trying to do its own thing, with no realization of the whole. Are we not in this respect chewing off our own right hand.

[Ernst]

@ TeslaSecrets

So your saying the Egyptian year and day were different than our year and day??

1 year = 365.25 days, 1 day = 24 hrs, 1 hr = 60 min, 1 min = 60 sec etc etc

For these are a standard time calculation based on the rotation of the Earth divided into degrees. Again this is simple geometry. Again the Egyptian concept of time and our concept of time are very similar I would say. The concept of divisions of time is related to the Earth in the same fashion as length is.

No, that is not what I am saying. Their day was probably as long as ours. But to divide it into 24 (hours), then into 60 (minutes), then again into 60 (seconds) and finally into 1 million (or 6 times into 10) to arrive at 1 micro second, strikes me as completely illogical. Yet, that is what we are doing today. I do not believe the ancient ones would have done the same.

For the remainder of your post, I fully agree. Shall we leave it there?

I recently saw a video on youtube showing conclusive evidence that the sphinx was at least 10.000 years old and that there was an age difference between the front and the back of a few 1000 years as well. I do not have a link for you anymore but I have read more or less the same thing in a book by Graham Hancock, a long time ago.
I believe the 3 pyramids at Gizeh are probably from the same time period.
It may interest you, but for this thread, I believe it is time to return to the Wardenclyffe project.

Ernst.

[Gav]

i believe we will never know what Wardenclyffe was really capable of. it was alot more then people think it was, yes it was capable of making electricity and sending messages around the world but its full capabilitys even if told were kept secret. i did read in teslas words, that he could measure the earth within a few feet by using his tower wow, within a few feet!! so what else could it do?? there was no need for it to hold millions of volts as it did, why did he need so much energy? was the energy used to send messages far into outer space and beyond? i dont believe he was using this energy to power the earth, if he was to release it into our atmosphere everyone in the area would be dead and the rest of the worlds hair would stand on end with static electricity filling the air. i dont believe that devices could be turned on and they would work just from his energy, there was alot more to it then we think. i believe what we have now is what he was doing with his free energy, radio stations and the rest that send messages by air have recreated his work and we dont realise it. the air waves were always there and tesla was only going to amplify them or excite them. devices would still need something to make them run, i believe it was a simple coil system simular to what we have in radios that would be excited into amplifying and creating more energy to make devices usable or to do work.
example, does anyone have proof of how a simple wireless system works? i dont believe it is sending electricity at all, i think it is making a rotating electromagnetic wave that excites the ions in the wire of the receiver coil, the irons are forced in the same direction as the wave and they have nowhere else to go except through the led or whatever is attached, making it do work.
i believe the answer is in the materials used, an antenna is only a peice of metal that collects the excited air waves to make another system generate the energy needed for the motor or whatever to work.
these are just my veiws on it and very well could be wrong, they are based on valid information and tests that i have done though, i havnt just pulled the ideas out of thin air.
my laptop has died and all documents,info,diagrams and everything i stored was lost with it not happy at all. all i have now is what is still stored in my brain
anyway thats my thoughts on wardenclyffe

Gav

[GSM]

Gav.

Take the hard-drive out of your laptop and run it up externally as a slave to retrieve/ copy your files.

So you still think there is such a thing as a radio wave ? Waves need a medium through which to propagate. What is the propagating medium for electromagnetically radiated RF energy (or light), and how does it propagate through the distance of ultra low density space vacuum ?
Yes both radiation and transduction are related to *matter*, but waves inbetween ?

Cheers .......... Graham.