Wardenclyffe - Tesla's true intention

[dR-Green]

Note that you may transmit and receive a signal to and from any combination of these devices. You can have a 3 coil transmitter, 2 coil receiver etc.

Experimental verification:

Tesla Magnifying Transmitter With Various Receivers-01 - YouTube

Nothing is even set up properly. The pile of junk dangling in mid-air is an amplifier supplying approx 367mW of power to the single turn test coil. The ground plane beneath the transmitter (and consequently the transmitter and the transmission line) is connected to house mains earth, it doesn't like it with better grounding with such detuned receivers. The receivers become more sensitive when better tuned, nothing had been done prior to the video in terms of properly tuning any of the coils, not to mention none of them are designed for the same frequency.

Receivers tested:
Tesla "test coil"
Eric Dollard flat spiral (as Borderland video)
"Colorado Springs"/Eric Dollard CRI 20 turn secondary

[Hobby Eon]

Dear Ernst

You ain't gonna let the de-ranger(s) here win their goal hay ? The more de-ranger(s) here the more right we are !
Pls don't loose time with them.

Back to the subject; i gave my opinion about L4. Included pictures and all.
Well, what do you think ?

About the engine; the piston is L3 excited by L1 and 2. And it is detonated by
a static field as stated in the patent many times. Yes 'somebody' already reacted to me with : what static field ?
That minus one means we are getting somewhere. But i need some reaction please from you ! To win time; yes i have build
that with a quarter wave and that doesn't work ! Want pictures and schematics from that ? I will supply them.
Time IS short indeed.

[boguslaw]

I was about to give up on this forum, simply because it seems highly inefficient; the amount of energy that I put into it seems to remain unrewarded.
But I see some sense returning,... I think,... I hope.
For indeed time is short. Probably even a lot shorter than most of you suspect.

@ Boguslaw,


Aren't you refering to Hobby Eons pictures here?

No, I'm referring to pictures you posted. One system is Tesla transformer and the bare pancake coil with a ball on top and grounded is magnifying transmitter. It is pictured that way because it has to freely oscillate.

I was talking about the electric effects taking place in a pancake coil, but if you are refering to Hobby's contribution, that of course is irrelevant.

What electric effects ? Do you think about voltage distribution (safety issue as Tesla described), equal distribution of capacitance or other effects ? Those are imho secondary benefits.

It certainly looked like you were teaming up with someone for the sole purpose of discrediting every statement I made. As if you were having some childish pleasure in it.

Glad to read you are more mature than that.

Well, it's all about the language barrier. I'm simply tired reading too long English sentences and many times cannot formulate my idea strictly and clearly. And I have to weight my words too...not because I'm disinformation agent or something , but because some information is part of my very hard and time consuming work, even if not appreciated at all. Because yet I have not started any of my devices you can call me an eccentric crackpot but still for me it was a years of work.

How high a frequency are you talking about? Any other obstacles?

1.66 - 1.67m, around 180Mhz ??? It's the main problem, second is to figure out the proper connections and bias if any.Construction problems I resolved by time consuming manual work, which took me month to construct it , because I have to do so much foolish job like covering enameled 0.5 mm wire with polypropylene cover (up to 7kV insulation), but let's forget it for a moment... I'm working on it from other side , learning how to create efficient Tesla transmitter ;-)

Indeed it is not. That is what I have been saying from my very first post here.
Now read this quote from Nikola Tesla in 1904:

Interesting? Why would every word be carefully weighed?
Slightly further in the same article we read:

Where have we read similar (carefully weighed) words before? Something perhaps like:


The next year he writes:

And:

Does this not ring a bell?
Haven't we read something similar before?
Like for instance:


Think! think! and not just about how to discredit my statements and make a complete and utter fool of yourself!

Ernst.

Well, I think it is related to this old comment:

"“As to the idea of rendering the energy of the sun available for industrial purposes, it fascinated me early but I must admit it was only long after I discovered the rotating magnetic field that it took a firm hold upon my mind. In assailing the problem I found two possible ways of solving it. Either power was to be developed on the spot by converting the energy of the sun’s radiations or the energy of vast reservoirs was to be transmitted economically to any distance. Though there were other possible sources of economical power, only the two solutions mentioned offer the ideal feature of power being obtained without any consumption of material. After long thought I finally arrived at two solutions, but on the first of these, namely, that referring to the development of power in any locality from the sun’s radiations, I can not dwell at present. The system of power transmission without wires, in the form in which I have describer it recently, originated in this manner. Starting from two facts that the earth was a conductor insulated in space, and that a body cannot be charged without causing an equivalent displacement of electricity in the earth, I undertook to construct of a machine suited for creating as large a displacement as possible of the earth’s electricity.” "

"Tesla Describes His Efforts in Various Fields of Work" by Nikola Tesla

Now , think a bit. Does it matter for receiver if he "decode" the energy sent by magnifying transmitter or by natural sources ? I think not, it's only a matter of frequency, being very high for the cosmic sources...The disturbances in ether (ambient source) is the same, yet the method of tapping different. In low frequency the amount of energy for single pulse is huge and direct conversion via magnetic induction feasible. In other cases clever "storage" is needed. I believe Tesla thought about locally converting cosmic sources energy (first he thought about sun, but later realised that all other stars and galaxies are emitting vastly higher ambient background, thus his statement about radiant receiver working at night also), using storage in his Tesla transformer, converting it into pulsed of high energy but with slow repetition rate, then passing it to magnifying transmitter which shaken the Earth producing ready to get stationary waves in khz frequency range. Mostly the same is doing thunder if hit the ground....

I think the problems with us is to find "the common denominator", it might be we are talking about the same using different language ad the shortage and troubles with translation of ideas into English (like in my example) is taken as a disinformation attempt.

Could you Ernst or somebody tell me , what is for you the physical reason for tuning fork to produce sound in air of strict frequency and very long duration ? I'm asking because this is the key to Tesla magnifying transmitter as Tesla himself described by analogy.

[Ernst]

Some quick replies....

@ Hobby Eon,
I can not answer your question about L4, because I do not yet fully understand the system. But there is no doubt in my mind that there is the key that we are (or at least I am) looking for. Give me a patent number, because I still do not know what static field you are refering to.
If you look up William Beaty's page that I linked to earlier, you can read that in his explanation ANY kind of L4 will be set into resonance. But we need to know its function in order to create a coil with USEFULL properties.

@ boguslaw,
Look at a pancake coil through Tesla's eyes and you will see something completely different from a cylindrical coil. I will explain that later as I do not have much time now.
You need 180 MHz? get an old PC-motherboard. This is not a very hard signal to produce.
Bet you can get a ready build crystal oscillator for that frequency. Or do you need a HV signal or high power?
The text you quote looks very much like another piece of text from another article.... Let me think... I think it is even the 1900 CM - article. I'll look it up later.
You write "Now think a bit" and that is indeed what your next paragraph requires. So I will save that too for a later time.

what is for you the physical reason for tuning fork to produce sound in air of strict frequency and very long duration

density, elasticity and shape. The first 2 properties define the Q-factor, all of these together the frequency.

Got to go.
Ernst.

[Gav]

i think its alot easyer then everyone is making it, heres my little experiment, ive had 2 cfl's and a plate of leds running for 3hrs of 1 AA battery, they are all still running at full brightness

[Gav]

4 and a half hrs later and its still going hard, the same AA battery reads 1.06v

[Hobby Eon]

A sad day.

Ernst

You really made me sad. What patent number ?? Well the patent offcourse
1,119,732 Sorry to say but that model of yours is the first one you build ?

We are back at square one. No sh*lls were needed here..

Mr Boguslaw how many watts do you need ? RF is my speciality.

[Ernst]

Hobby Eon,
Sorry to disappoint you. Mr. Tesla has well over 100 patents on his name, and then I am only counting the US patents. Worldwide there are many more. None of these mentions a Magnifying Transmitter. If you are familiar with Tesla's work, then you should know that.
The patent number you just mentioned is "Apparatus for transmitting electrical energy", why do you think it is a magnifying transmitter or why do you think this is describing the Wardenclyffe project?
I can tell you that there is very little reason to do so, and if you read through the RN you will find that those papers DO describe the Wardenclyffe project and that they depict a DIFFERENT set up.
From this you can deduce with absolute certainty that this patent DOES NOT describe Wardenclyffe as so many people wrongly assume. I think there is substancial evidence that Wardenclyffe WAS a Magnifying Transmitter (in Tesla terms, not necessarily in dictionary terms).
Talking about square 1, we never even left square 1 and we will not until the function of this 4th coil is clear.

Maybe, one day I will put a picture of my home made coil collection on line. It may surprise you.

Now talking about disappointment;

What most people don't know is that you can tap off electricity capacitively from a second Tesla coil. Tested by me. I think even Tesla didn't know this.

I think you need to read up a bit on Tesla's writings.

Ernst.

[Gav]

ill leave you all to argue you cant see what ive done as its built into the coil its only hard if you want to complicate everything.
oh 5 and a half hours now

[Ernst]

@ Gav,
As I have already told before in this thread, my first 3-coil transformer was running straight from 220V (primary). It consumed about 4 micro Watt and could light a 14 W tube (but not to its full brightness). This proofs that we are wasting LOTS of energy on lights.
I am absolutely convinced that with the proper transformer you can have light for days if not weeks or months from just 1 AA battery.

Ernst.

[Ernst]

@ Hobby Eon,
I have just reread the patent text again and I can find no mention of a static field.
I know this must be the blackest day in history for you, but please enlighten me and provide me a quote.

Ernst

[Ernst]

Example X-tal oscillator for Boguslaw.
It does not get any easier, if a 5V square wave will do.

Ernst.

[TeslaSecrets]

Here is some more disinformation for everyone. Since I am the one using mathematics, quotes and references, obviously I am the disinformation agent, I admit it. As Ernst said, if you have a legitimate and intelligent argument against what I have said, you wouldn't need to resort to name calling and personal attacks.

@Ernst

Sorry Ernst, but I think some of what I say is relevant to any discussion of Tesla's work. I just feel the bigger implications should not be ignored. However, if you seek more practical information, perhaps you will find this interesting.

The extra coils, and their coupling, shapes and sizes, are likely an electromagnetic version of this concept:

Horn loudspeaker | Ask.com Encyclopedia

From the above link:

The horn itself is a passive component and does not amplify the sound from the driving element as such, but rather improves the coupling efficiency between the speaker driver and the air.

If we apply this to Wardenclyffe, we realize the extra coil or coils, are just such passive components, which improve the coupling of the driver( secondary ) to the electromagnetic field medium. It is known Space or "the ambient medium" has impedance, it can pass electromagnetic waves!

What is characteristic impedance of free space? - Definition from WhatIs.com

A Tesla coil of primary and secondary alone, is actually much like the piezo element or transducer without the horn, in that the Tesla coil, is not coupled well to the surrounding ambient medium. By using an extra coil, or combination of extra coils, we can greatly improve the coupling. The "transmit to receive" method is applicable in this respect as well.

The system must be coupled properly ( impedance matched ) to the medium through which we wish to transmit power. This is part of the reason we are not killed by the huge static electric atmospheric electricity between space and ground. ( about 200V per meter, from ground to 1km we have over 200Kv ) We are not impedance matched to this energy and thus do not provide a low resistance path.

The Space Tether Experiment

A short melted the tether. So yes they determined the cause of the short, but they draw attention away from the fact, there was enough power available to completely destroy their experiment. They had meant to tap a little, and instead tapped too much. A simple orbiting wire, produced 3500 V at 1 Amp, 3500 Watts. Tether before the short was not closely impedance matched, air caused a plasma which improved the matching. This effect does not disappear just because you move it closer or too the surface.

[Hobby Eon]

Yeah saying others don't want to understand you and then behaving the same as those others.
Do you want to game me mister!? Indeed Tesla writes 'high tension charge in proximity' I call that static field.
And if you look at the picture of that patent you see a small Wardenclyffe. You ridule my titanium melting and ignore
the 2c effect. Instead you go in discussion with shills. How dumb can you be to think that they are interested in the thruth
or fairness ? And that stupid contraption on Youtube you call a Tesla coil ? Man get out. If you can't make that you are extremely un-technical If you only want your 15 min. of fame here don't waste our time. You chase willing people away and feel comfortable with the scum. If you know 'everything about Tesla' were is the beef mister ? Blah blah blah old weasel.

[dR-Green]

if you have a legitimate and intelligent argument against what I have said, you wouldn't need to resort to name calling and personal attacks.

I wasn't calling you the idiot personally. The point is it's a big philosophical subject, all of "society" plays a role, all of the human belief systems that make it up, most of which is nonsense. Nothing exists without its life supporting environment; any "problem" you may perceive is sustained by the environment in which it exists, i.e. all of society in this case. Complaining about the inefficiency of technologies that provide free energy, which supposedly is what everyone here wants, is counter productive. It is said that energy, in fact everything, costs money, but money doesn't even exist to begin with, it's a made up idea, a social agreement. Just like the lines on the map which call for "National Security" thus secrecy. The biggest problem and obstacle in the way of any progress is humans and their belief systems. The technology isn't developed or released because it costs money or it gives a particular "country" some military/political advantage over some other group of humans, so they are stuck in a completely nonsense loop, and everyone is responsible. So who wants to talk about free energy, really? What are you willing to compromise in order to get it? There's no point getting into it, and even if there was, this is not the place.