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  • Originally posted by TeslaSecrets View Post
    I have repeatedly tried to show how the electrical energy is through the Earth, using examples, images and references.
    No one listened to Tesla to begin with so they are unlikely to start listening to you re-quoting the same words. All the experts know exactly why it won't work because they have the science to prove it, it just so happens that their science explains the wrong thing. The truth will prevail when enough can see that their presumption was incorrect to begin with, which apparently can only be done through demonstration and application. No amount of talking will achieve anything unless the correct working principle can be shown.

    Tesla Wireless Power Transmission Colorado Springs Style - YouTube



    Last edited by dR-Green; 05-25-2014, 05:36 AM.
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    • Originally posted by dR-Green View Post
      No one listened to Tesla to begin with so they are unlikely to start listening to you re-quoting the same words. All the experts know exactly why it won't work because they have the science to prove it, it just so happens that their science explains the wrong thing. The truth will prevail when enough can see that their presumption was incorrect to begin with, which apparently can only be done through demonstration and application. No amount of talking will achieve anything unless the correct working principle can be shown.

      Tesla Wireless Power Transmission Colorado Springs Style - YouTube



      Does the power fall of more closely 1/r , 1/r^2 or 1/r^3 ?

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      • Originally posted by indio007 View Post
        Does the power fall of more closely 1/r , 1/r^2 or 1/r^3 ?
        Limited to this data it seems to be approximately 1/0.04*r

        MS Excel says P = 56.75r^-0.67
        Last edited by dR-Green; 05-26-2014, 12:01 AM.
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        • The decay of the power to distance looks logarithmic to my eyes. Inversely though. As the distance increases to rate of power loss decreases.

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          • It is possible that Tesla had moved much of Wardenclyffe to Canada and intentionally left misleading equipment and documents in the interest of security before WW2. A more careful examination of the structures in Canada along with Canadian patents and there should be Canadian military projects that relate and to an accurate time line of his Tesla's goals because there seems to be discrepancies that need to be sorted out. Has anyone gone there and reported ? There has got to be a few more clues up there.
            Last edited by mikrovolt; 06-03-2014, 07:17 AM.

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            • Uh, that graph is of the inverse square law.
              graph of the inverse square law - Google Search
              The well documented law for power over distance for em radiation.

              Which the Tesla transmitter patent you have shown, can do very well. Even though, as any real radio engineer would point out, the transmission is going to be extremely inefficient if your going to put large spherical capacitors on the top of your antenna, as this diagram clearly shows. Show me a modern radio transmitter with a giant ball on top?

              However, as Tesla repeatedly states, his systems work very well in a completely different manner than radiative Hertzian transmission. A manner which for some reason either eludes the average persons rational thought, or is purposely and consistently redirected back to the radiation transmission method.

              If you charge a metal sphere, does the charge distribute across the surface of the sphere according to the inverse square law? No it does not. Does the inverse square law apply to power transmitted through a wire? No it does not. These are the exact analogies Tesla refers to when attempting to explain his system.

              Furthermore, Tesla himself can be quoted saying his World Wireless system, "does not obey the inverse square law" and in fact was shown to be completely the opposite. That is Tesla's system could increase or concentrate power over distance, which is impossible using radiative methods.

              If your getting results which show "inverse square" relationship, your doing it wrong.

              @Dr. Green people are most assuredly not going to listen, when people such as yourself consistently misdirect them away from the truth and back to the oft repeated and erroneous assumption that Tesla's system is solely radiative and subject to the inverse square law.

              @mikrovolt
              Very little is known of Tesla Demonstration of his World Wireless System in Canada. The equipment for the demonstration was relatively portable and most definitely nothing permanent remains.
              Listen to this recording or read the transcript of Arthur Mathews describing the setup and operation of the Canadian demonstration.
              Arthur Mathews - Tesla's Last Assistant 1-3 - YouTube
              Arthur Mathews about Tesla - Nu Energy â„¢ Research Archive

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              • Image should be like this:

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                • This is how it should look:
                  http://www.ovaltech.ca/images/Power-...-as-a-wire.jpg

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                  • When you hit a nail with a hammer, is the real power that transmitted as sound radiated through the air, or is the important power the impact of the hammer upon the nail?????

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                    • Originally posted by TeslaSecrets View Post
                      Uh, that graph is of the inverse square law.
                      graph of the inverse square law - Google Search
                      No, it's not. Do some maths.

                      Originally posted by TeslaSecrets View Post
                      Which the Tesla transmitter patent you have shown, can do very well. Even though, as any real radio engineer would point out, the transmission is going to be extremely inefficient if your going to put large spherical capacitors on the top of your antenna, as this diagram clearly shows. Show me a modern radio transmitter with a giant ball on top?
                      What's your point? That is a general representation because the diagrams were convenient. If you pay attention you will see that the coils in actual use are exact scale models derived from Tesla's data in Colorado Springs Notes. A large capacitance suppresses radiation, small surface areas and points radiate effectively. Why would you want the radio engineer to think it's efficient?

                      Originally posted by TeslaSecrets View Post
                      @Dr. Green people are most assuredly not going to listen, when people such as yourself consistently misdirect them away from the truth and back to the oft repeated and erroneous assumption that Tesla's system is solely radiative and subject to the inverse square law.
                      You are contradicting yourself from the previous quote where apparently you want it to be an efficient radiator. Again if you paid attention then you will realise that apparently I'm the only person so far who has actually demonstrated the truth through using and showing multiple earth terminals and done the most basic of measurements with transmission through the earth.

                      Explain the power dropoff with distance between earth terminals with your radiation through the air theory while the distance between the coils remains the same. It's about time someone put up a convincing argument.
                      Last edited by dR-Green; 06-08-2014, 02:04 AM.
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                      • People try to explain Tesla away with conventional understanding.
                        In late 80's Eric demonstrates that radiant electricity which illuminates differently in a bulb.
                        It has the ability to attract copper and penetrate faraday cages.
                        The signal is heard clearly Eric explains:
                        " The lab is about 3000 feet in that direction thru the rock cliff " thru rock !
                        dollard rxtx beach.JPG

                        In the lab on the table is the transmitter and receiver almost identical.
                        It is thought that no one could replicate the electrical properties for the
                        public nor was it available. Tesla Documents had been procured at
                        Wright Patterson AFB WW2 and were destroyed on closing the operation.
                        Despite the freedom of information act these document are not available.
                        Eric as a curious young person studied the Bolinas station before it was destroyed.

                        dollard L-Wave TX RX.JPG

                        It is believed that Tesla signals do not fade and do not weaken with distance.
                        Some electrical engineers have said that they needed two grounds that are more than 50 feet apart just using signal generator.
                        Since a low power signal generator connected to Tesla devise needs isolation of this nature
                        Also it is as curious as the fine narrow banded serrations found in the florescent tubes.
                        Altogether the anomalous conditions suggest that this technology is still at an infantile stage in development.
                        Last edited by mikrovolt; 06-08-2014, 10:23 AM.

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                        • Originally posted by mikrovolt View Post
                          People try to explain Tesla away with conventional understanding.
                          In late 80's Eric demonstrates that radiant electricity which illuminates differently in a bulb.
                          It has the ability to attract copper and penetrate faraday cages.
                          The signal is heard clearly Eric explains:
                          " The lab is about 3000 feet in that direction thru the rock cliff " thru rock !
                          [ATTACH]14479[/ATTACH]

                          In the lab on the table is the transmitter and receiver almost identical.
                          It is thought that no one could replicate the electrical properties for the
                          public nor was it available. Tesla Documents had been procured at
                          Wright Patterson AFB WW2 and were destroyed on closing the operation.
                          Despite the freedom of information act these document are not available.
                          Eric as a curious young person studied the Bolinas station before it was destroyed.

                          [ATTACH]14480[/ATTACH]

                          It is believed that Tesla signals do not fade and do not weaken with distance.
                          Some electrical engineers have said that they needed two grounds that are more than 50 feet apart just using signal generator.
                          Since a low power signal generator connected to Tesla devise needs isolation of this nature
                          Also it is as curious as the fine narrow banded serrations found in the florescent tubes.
                          Altogether the anomalous conditions suggest that this technology is still at an infantile stage in development.
                          It's under Eric's guidance that these coils were designed. It is claimed in theory that there is no weakening of the signal, but as far as I know no one has ever done any actual measurements. indio007 also mentioned that the power decrease in the graph is not constant and seems to improve with greater distance, I haven't confirmed which way it goes yet, but he is right in that it is not constant. Also the ground end of the whole setup in the graphed test is highly "experimental" (temporary) and basically consists of approx 35cm length of copper pipe which is completely inadequate for the application, something that "TeslaSecrets" had not considered.
                          http://www.teslascientific.com/

                          "Knowledge is cosmic. It does not evolve or unfold in man. Man unfolds to an awareness of it. He gradually discovers it." - Walter Russell

                          "Once men died for Truth, but now Truth dies at the hands of men." - Manly P. Hall

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                          • Radiate this.

                            Last edited by dR-Green; 06-09-2014, 10:50 PM.
                            http://www.teslascientific.com/

                            "Knowledge is cosmic. It does not evolve or unfold in man. Man unfolds to an awareness of it. He gradually discovers it." - Walter Russell

                            "Once men died for Truth, but now Truth dies at the hands of men." - Manly P. Hall

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                            • Viewing the 160 meter band you can see the noise level pop up across the band. The 160 meter band begins at 1800 depicted by the red line and continues to 2000. In the U.S. the frequencies below 1800 are assigned to maritime navigation LORAN.

                              The suggested 160M band plan for experimental mode. The use of high and low pass filters are very necessary to avoid spurious emission, confiscated equipment and possible fines.

                              In the video mother nature is violating FCC regulations.

                              https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A0a1fLCHr9M

                              160 Meters (1.8-2.0 MHz)

                              1.800 - 2.000 CW
                              1.800 - 1.810 Digital Modes
                              1.810 CW QRP
                              1.843-2.000 SSB, SSTV and other wideband modes
                              1.910 SSB QRP
                              1.995 - 2.000 Experimental
                              1.999 - 2.000 Beacons

                              In the U.S. unlike other countries the lower band between 135.7 to 135.8 Khz was considered for use for low band, It is the legality that keeps the lower bands from being used. The effort to experiment legally in lower band was denied by the FCC . That means that transmission must be very low power.

                              Regarding discussion of sphere antenna as a poor design for hammering radio, true the sphere does support Wardenclyffe’s purpose for electrical power rather than radio transmitter as Tesla's true intention.
                              Last edited by mikrovolt; 06-11-2014, 04:10 PM.

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                              • Higher power and tuned update to a previous experiment.

                                Basic setup is somewhat similar as shown in Colorado Springs Notes page 360, the difference being that my extra coil is connected to the top of the secondary rather than a ground plate.



                                Actual connections



                                28V bulb, transmitter not at full power



                                28V bulb, all the lab lights off



                                Within 3 minutes the 28V bulb had blown



                                240V 15W bulb



                                240V 15W bulb, all the lab lights off

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                                "Knowledge is cosmic. It does not evolve or unfold in man. Man unfolds to an awareness of it. He gradually discovers it." - Walter Russell

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