Wardenclyffe - Tesla's true intention

[indio007]

@thx1138 Thanks for responding. I just don't want to go down any rabbitholes. I believe Tesla was using (im)pulsed DC for

System of transmission of electrical energy.
US 645576 A
and
The Magnifying Transmitter .

Successive impulses of DC is much different than AC even if frequencies are identical.

Too bad Tesla didn't explicitly say DC.

Tesla doesn't say much about how he was using impedance either but it seems clear reflection of the current pulse was part of the design and essential for certain effects.

I'm also starting to think Tesla discovered electromagnetically induced transparency.

[Farmhand]

In the patent 1119732 Tesla states that the primary can be excited in any
desired manner see Quote from patent. People can maintain Tesla used only DC impulses
but that is simply not true, it's a fallacy. As long as the transformer is
operated at resonance the character of the input excitation is not critical,
any arbitrary wave shape will do the job.

Patent - Patent US1119732 - Apparatus for transmitting electrical energy. - Google Patents

He used DC pulse circuits and he used Alternators and he used alternating
pulse circuits which gave both positive and negative pulses basically AC but
not square wave necessarily.

If you are interested enough you would read every word of the patent several times.

If you download the PDF the quote is from page 2 line 7 onward.

The primary C may be excited in any desired manner, from a suitable source of currents G, which may be an alternator 'or condenser, the important requirement being that the resonant condition is established, that is to say, that the terminal I) is charged to the maximum pressure developed in the circuit, as 1 have specified in my original patents before referred to.

Cheers

[boguslaw]

The energy transfer could be via upper strata of atmosphere while current flow through ground. It also do not disturb with one wire transmission I think. It completes it.I suppose the energy flow in one wire transmission line is also around wire while the current and voltage forms standing wave inside the conductor bouncing back and forth .
Such idea is supported by Tesla own words in his interview...

[dR-Green]

If you download the PDF the quote is from page 2 line 7 onward.

Thanks Farmhand, I'd forgotten about that. Someone was calling me an ignorant disinformant on facebook two days ago because I said it doesn't matter about the waveform, so that will do nicely. Although the same guy was trying to claim I was lying by directly quoting Tesla. Apparently my power to lie knows no bounds, even to the point of going back in time to edit the content of patent texts before they are filed!

[thx1138]

The energy transfer could be via upper strata of atmosphere while current flow through ground. It also do not disturb with one wire transmission I think. It completes it.I suppose the energy flow in one wire transmission line is also around wire while the current and voltage forms standing wave inside the conductor bouncing back and forth .
Such idea is supported by Tesla own words in his interview...

Read the patents. It is there. The problem of course is how are you going to place a transmitter at those elevations and how are you going to do it in the 1890's with the materials and technologies available at that time? He considered tethered ballons but didn't know how to do that and even says so in the patent.

He preferred 15 miles but also recognized the difficulty of maintaining tethered balloons at that height. He did a demonstration for a patent examiner in N.Y. where he transmitted power through a glass tube in which the air pressure and density had been reduced to that of the higher elevation.

Lower elevations required higher voltage and so he worked on increasing the voltage to the point of 12 million and higher volts. One of the patents specifically says 30,000 feet. That's the same patent that says he would leave the problem of the tethers to other engineers.

What was unknown at the time that would have prevented success was the jet stream's 250+ MPH winds.

You will never find photos of Tesla using balloons for transmission. In his Colorado Springs notes there are entries about electrically extracting hydrogen from the atmosphere for the balloons. He realized later that he could do the same thing by transmitting through the ground. Although it didn't occur to him at the time, read his July 4, 1899 notes. The July 5 notes have an entry about the hydrogen for the balloons again.

Somewhere between July 4, 1899 and his later patent filing he recognized that he could use the ground and set up nodes in the earth just like in the hair pin experiment.

RTFP

[thx1138]

Thanks Farmhand, I'd forgotten about that. Someone was calling me an ignorant disinformant on facebook two days ago because I said it doesn't matter about the waveform, so that will do nicely. Although the same guy was trying to claim I was lying by directly quoting Tesla. Apparently my power to lie knows no bounds, even to the point of going back in time to edit the content of patent texts before they are filed!

My God! Don't let it get out that you've harnessed the time particle!

"There is a principle that is a bar against all information, which is proof against all argument, and which cannot fail to keep man in everlasting ignorance. That principle is condemnation before investigation." - Edmind Spencer

[dR-Green]

The conspiracy theorists/"Tesla fans" would denounce Tesla himself as being a disinformant if he was around today, because everything he would say would contradict everything the conspiracy theorists believe in and everything they claim Tesla had 'meant' to say. This is part of the discussion:

CT: Otn claims that Tesla believes radiant energy yields only feeble power? Otn is a liar.

CT: I've read Tesla's patents. You'll have to do better to support your lies.

Me: "The sun, as well as other sources of radiant energy, throws off minute particles of matter positively electrified, which, impinging upon the plate P, communicate continuously an electrical charge to the same. The opposite terminal of the condenser being connected to the ground, which may be considered as a vast reservoir of negative electricity, a feeble current flows continuously into the condenser, and inasmuch as these supposed particles are of an inconceivably small radius or curvature, and consequently charged to a relatively very high potential, this charging of the condenser may continue, as I have actually observed, almost indefinitely, even to the point of rupturing the dielectric." - Nikola Tesla, Patent US685957 - Apparatus for the utilization of radiant energy

CT: Hardly "feeble."

Me: How's that?

CT: It says you are a liar.

Me: Put some glasses on. It says "feeble" right there.

Awesome! What a productive way to spend time. In the end he got mad and blocked me on the basis that he thought I was a lying troll.

[boguslaw]

Read the patents. It is there. The problem of course is how are you going to place a transmitter at those elevations and how are you going to do it in the 1890's with the materials and technologies available at that time? He considered tethered ballons but didn't know how to do that and even says so in the patent.

He preferred 15 miles but also recognized the difficulty of maintaining tethered balloons at that height. He did a demonstration for a patent examiner in N.Y. where he transmitted power through a glass tube in which the air pressure and density had been reduced to that of the higher elevation.

Lower elevations required higher voltage and so he worked on increasing the voltage to the point of 12 million and higher volts. One of the patents specifically says 30,000 feet. That's the same patent that says he would leave the problem of the tethers to other engineers.

What was unknown at the time that would have prevented success was the jet stream's 250+ MPH winds.

You will never find photos of Tesla using balloons for transmission. In his Colorado Springs notes there are entries about electrically extracting hydrogen from the atmosphere for the balloons. He realized later that he could do the same thing by transmitting through the ground. Although it didn't occur to him at the time, read his July 4, 1899 notes. The July 5 notes have an entry about the hydrogen for the balloons again.

Somewhere between July 4, 1899 and his later patent filing he recognized that he could use the ground and set up nodes in the earth just like in the hair pin experiment.

RTFP

That's all fine but doesn't comply with Tesla statements in interview. Probably his first concept was to use baloons, and he left this in patent as a deceiving factor. The real one transmission was combined through ground , and through upper strata .
Theory of standing wave in Earth is correct.When there is no receiver tuned to tap energy there is no or almost no loss but when receiver is taking energy then current flow directly to the point when receiver is located plus energy transmitted via upper strata .
Earth is just a polished conductor with very small resistance and insulating layer around it !

[TheoriaApophasis]

Earth is just a polished conductor with very small resistance and insulating layer around it !

True true true indeed.


Something "science" (meaning the academia fools) does not understand .......


watch the lightning SPRITES and JETS video from PBS NOVA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YpO2EZaAGNY


too bad theyre CLUELESS about what they're really seeing, they are to some degree, but not really.




Its just like inverted ferrofluid spikes:







The reason ferrofluid forms cone shaped spikes along any pole is that the raised apexes are the alternating centripetal and centrifugal
points of preponderance which raise themselves not as lines but as cones. Nothing in nature moves in lines, rather in spirals. To raise
any single portion of the ferrofluid is to create inter-atomic magnetic dilation in the ferrofluid, which approaches in a cone-first vortex,
as any plane of centrifugal acceleration is cone-base first, whereas any vortex plane of expulsion from the magnet is apex first.
As is the case, any centrifugal vortex is cone-acceleration as highest and any centripetal vortex is apex acceleration as highest.
Pressure increases in inverse proportions to the field. As is likewise the case with all fields, the greater the pressure the closer the
spatial proximity to field voidance. This concept of the Ether is extremely hard for people to understand. Just as at the center of any
magnet, the dielectric inertial plane, there is no magnetism, likewise if one were able to occupy a space at the center of the Earth there
would be no gravity, likewise at the axle of any field disturbance there is neither a field no acceleration. Polarization, and acceleration
exist radially from the apex of magnetic field, but inversely accelerate towards the apex centripetally, however regardless of
centrifugal or centripetal movement, at the center between both there is neither a field nor acceleration, this is the membrane of all
fields in counterspace; in the case of the magnet, this membrane is ‘open’, and is the dielectric inertial plane.

The apex is always pointing towards the direction of the magnetic flow vortex centrifugally and inversely so centripetally upon
intermediate proximity with the ferrofluid (opposite of this in the magnet itself). However since there are two vortexes spiraling in
opposite directions and thru each other, greater forethought is required for accurate visualization. Ferrofluid is magneto-attractive
regardless of spin or centripetal or centrifugal movements.

[indio007]

That's all fine but doesn't comply with Tesla statements in interview. Probably his first concept was to use baloons, and he left this in patent as a deceiving factor. The real one transmission was combined through ground , and through upper strata .
Theory of standing wave in Earth is correct.When there is no receiver tuned to tap energy there is no or almost no loss but when receiver is taking energy then current flow directly to the point when receiver is located plus energy transmitted via upper strata .
Earth is just a polished conductor with very small resistance and insulating layer around it !

I think the Magnifying Transmitter was a method distinct from the balloons.

My opinion is the device was a capacitor. A DC impulse was sent.

• The charge on the surface creates a voltage differential between the tower and air.
  
• That static charge was then discharged into the earth.
  
• The charge travels along the earth like any other conductor.

Lot's of times a second though.
The reflection of the impulse and the original impulse will be in a superposition of construction and destructive interference resulting in a standing wave.


Trying to figure out the structure of the magnetic field of the transmitter leads to curious conclusions.

The overall shape seems to push charge into the top.

• Part B' is going to have the magnetic field of a wire.
  
• The magnetic field will induce a current in B and force more charge into B'. At some point the amount of negative charges will reach a saturation point in which the repulsion of will overcome the inductive forces.
  
• This will create a reversal of current.
  
• If timed at to the end of the DC impulse , all the charge accumulated in the upper parts will rush into the either because surface charge wants to be at equilibrium.
  
• This device is like a magnetic pump forcing the charge into the top and then relaxing because of the clever release valve.

It's my belief that the surface charge on The B' cylinder would spiral like the red on a candy cane because of being basically it the pole of an electromagnet, which B is.

[indio007]

The above post has errors. I thought A and C were electrically connected via current flow, not induction.

I'm going to have to re-evaluate my opinion.

[Ernst]

There is an interview on i-net with Tesla. Please know that the "pre-hearing interview" is the only genuine interview. If you carefully study the other interview you will see that Tesla refers to things that happen after the "supposed interview" took place, also he mentions inventions that took place at a later date.
There is a lot of fake info going round. Also Tesla's autobiography has been seriously damaged by some idiots. Please verify that the one you are reading is real, as in "written by Nikola Tesla".

Meanwhile somewhere far far away....
Money has been raised to build the worlds first Magnifying Transmitter after those done by Tesla. Land has been acquired. Impulses have been sent and received through the Earth over a distance of 10.000 Km. There are still some problems of a logistic nature but those won't last. My first patent will be public somewhere in January next year, but I hope that by that time I can show something MUCH more fascinating.

(I won't be writing much, but rest assured that if something ever happens to me all details will be on the internet within hours)



Ernst.

[BroMikey]

Whos Patent?

There is an interview on i-net with Tesla. Please know that the "pre-hearing interview" is the only genuine interview. If you carefully study the other interview you will see that Tesla refers to things that happen after the "supposed interview" took place, also he mentions inventions that took place at a later date.
There is a lot of fake info going round. Also Tesla's autobiography has been seriously damaged by some idiots. Please verify that the one you are reading is real, as in "written by Nikola Tesla".

Meanwhile somewhere far far away....
Money has been raised to build the worlds first Magnifying Transmitter after those done by Tesla. Land has been acquired. Impulses have been sent and received through the Earth over a distance of 10.000 Km. There are still some problems of a logistic nature but those won't last. My first patent will be public somewhere in January next year, but I hope that by that time I can show something MUCH more fascinating.

(I won't be writing much, but rest assured that if something ever happens to me all details will be on the internet within hours)



Ernst.

Whos patent? Yours?

[indio007]

There is an interview on i-net with Tesla. Please know that the "pre-hearing interview" is the only genuine interview. If you carefully study the other interview you will see that Tesla refers to things that happen after the "supposed interview" took place, also he mentions inventions that took place at a later date.
There is a lot of fake info going round. Also Tesla's autobiography has been seriously damaged by some idiots. Please verify that the one you are reading is real, as in "written by Nikola Tesla".

Meanwhile somewhere far far away....
Money has been raised to build the worlds first Magnifying Transmitter after those done by Tesla. Land has been acquired. Impulses have been sent and received through the Earth over a distance of 10.000 Km. There are still some problems of a logistic nature but those won't last. My first patent will be public somewhere in January next year, but I hope that by that time I can show something MUCH more fascinating.

(I won't be writing much, but rest assured that if something ever happens to me all details will be on the internet within hours)



Ernst.

In the Wardenclyfffe foreclosure deposition, 1922 Wardenclyffe Foreclosure Appeal Proceedings.

Tesla indicates that the Magnifying Transmitter is obsolete.

I am really intrigue about what he says about the "dome".

Q:There was sort of globe on top?

A:Yes. That, your Honor, was only the carrying out of a discovery I made that any amount of electricity within reason could be stored provided you make it of a certain shape. Electricians even today do not appreciate that yet....

Whats was the final structure supposed to be shaped like ????

[Ernst]

Tesla indicates that the Magnifying Transmitter is obsolete.

I missed that part, even after rereading. Can you quote that part for me?

There are a few options for the shape of the top-capacitance.
- The globe-like shape with sides bend inwards on the lower half. As we can see in the Wardenclyffe pictures
- The doughnut shape as you can see in that patent that most people mistake for a Magnifying Transmitter (1.119.732)
- A platform with spheres around the edges. As you can read in the "Rare Notes".
- A globe covered with specially designed vacuum tubes. His latest design as you can read in "1935-05-16: The New Art of Projecting Concentrated Non-dispersive Energy Through Natural Media".

More relevant info on this subject you can find in his patent 1,266,175 "LIGHTNING-PROTECTOR".

What was the final structure supposed to be shaped like ????

Exactly as in the pictures, only covered with metal plates.

Yes. That, your Honor, was only the carrying out of a discovery I made that any amount of electricity within reason could be stored provided you make it of a certain shape.

Perhaps you read it wrong? I read: The only purpose it served was to store a huge amount of electricity. Its shape was determined according to certain discoveries that I made.

Talking about reading; perhaps someone can help BroMikey a bit. Start with the ABC and build it up slowly.

Ernst.