A request for filthy and offensive posts to be removed.

[Farmhand]

Farmhand,


Sorry, but I do not just "show off" by presenting a Machine doing Overunity, prior to People understanding the Main Principles involved.

I believe it is not fair to do it that way...there are many videos like that on the Internet...many, that show off, then we never see them again.

I rather go over with my people, teach them all the insights, show my diagrams, the "essence" of this...Then We All could each, in every different part of this Planet, Replicate, and see for themselves that it works...that it does exactly what I was writing about...

That is My Policy, this is My Technology, My Machines...and the Methods Of Disbursement are entirely decided by Me, Myself and I...

Therefore, I do not have to "jump" , just because of some childish "desire" satisfaction to see the Machine "at work"...or performing the tests..
AS EITHER I HAVE to prove to ABSOLUTELY NO ONE...waiting on their "Majesty" decision to accept "finally" they do Overunity, or Free Energy, or over 100% Efficiency...or tell me is a Hoax...or a Fake...

Sorry about it, but not Me...


Ufopolitics

Why would it be showing off rather than just showing ?

And If you assume or are implying that I think, asked or require you to jump then
you are assuming incorrectly, who's childish desire would that be ?

I agree you don't have to prove anything to anybody, but if you make the
claims people will ask for some evidence, to do otherwise would be unwise.

If you were to make a genuine video and show input and output power clearly
even if not all that accurate then there would be no reason for any disputes.
It doesn't bother me much either way, except for the claim with no backup.

The people who are considered fakes are the ones who are deceptive or
refuse to do any in/out measurements. How can you even claim more out
than in without measuring it ? If some kind of energy cannot be measured
then how could you possibly know it's part in an efficiency evaluation to
declare the over 100% efficiency ?

I'll tell you how, the work done as intended output, if work is done there will
be evidence of it and the amount of work done can be claimed as energy output.

ie, I think we all know that all systems are always 100% efficient in one way,
that is when the losses are added to the "intended" output the product is 100% of the
input, be it if the input is from us or from nature or from both. All can be
"measured" or determined, even things we cannot directly measure we can
calculate based on the work done in losses or output. If the result is too close
to call the chances are a mistake or something was missed or not considered.

If you can do a measurement and show work being done that is not
accounted for by the measurements then that is an indication of something
happening for sure.

So from what I can gather you don't want to show it because it would be
"showing off", but the "claim" of it is not "showing off", seems illogical to me.

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[Flux It]

Perhaps a conference between a few people and a moderator would be in order- then a zero tolerance no-drama policy be put into effect.

I love to read a great portion of the forums and this gets to be just too much.

Constructive criticism is one thing, and this is not it...

[David Fine]

I like you!!

I like you Ewizard!! What goes around comes around.

I'll just say one thing Farmhand. You EMPOWER that which you focus on.

[dR-Green]

While that may be true, unfortunately, due to what we call "democracy", others also empower things on our behalf.

[David Fine]

Yes

Yes, everything is relative and there are many powers at work both dark & light. Well said!!

While that may be true, unfortunately, due to what we call "democracy", others also empower things on our behalf.

[Ufopolitics]

Not "all" the People...

Why would it be showing off rather than just showing ?

And If you assume or are implying that I think, asked or require you to jump then
you are assuming incorrectly, who's childish desire would that be ?

I agree you don't have to prove anything to anybody, but if you make the
claims people will ask for some evidence, to do otherwise would be unwise.

If you were to make a genuine video and show input and output power clearly
even if not all that accurate then there would be no reason for any disputes.
It doesn't bother me much either way, except for the claim with no backup.

The people who are considered fakes are the ones who are deceptive or
refuse to do any in/out measurements. How can you even claim more out
than in without measuring it ? If some kind of energy cannot be measured
then how could you possibly know it's part in an efficiency evaluation to
declare the over 100% efficiency ?

I'll tell you how, the work done as intended output, if work is done there will
be evidence of it and the amount of work done can be claimed as energy output.

ie, I think we all know that all systems are always 100% efficient in one way,
that is when the losses are added to the "intended" output the product is 100% of the
input, be it if the input is from us or from nature or from both. All can be
"measured" or determined, even things we cannot directly measure we can
calculate based on the work done in losses or output. If the result is too close
to call the chances are a mistake or something was missed or not considered.

If you can do a measurement and show work being done that is not
accounted for by the measurements then that is an indication of something
happening for sure.

So from what I can gather you don't want to show it because it would be
"showing off", but the "claim" of it is not "showing off", seems illogical to me.

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Sorry, but not "all" the people will ask for proof, for evidence...up front

Many People will ask questions, then I render answers, we all go through several levels of understanding...logic analysis processes, I have shown my work, my lab tests...and the plans to build them...and Most are doing the replications...and by now We are getting many Members with very interesting results...as this happens starts an evolution process...a chain of events where many more will join...and there will be more positive results...

I consider that when One of Us decides to open up their work, in a completely Open Source environment...there needs to be more "Trust than Doubts", basically, when you really evaluate the quality , the effort and interest involved, trying to deliver a clear and transparent Art, to be easily comprehended...

To me that counts more, than a merely DVM hooked up to show some of the currents we all know, but wrongfully read, interpreted by errors that many will not be able to understand, if not explained prior...why it is happening?...may lead to wrong conclusions, under estimations and miss-judgements...

But fortunately, the Light has started to show Up...in those many places out there where someone that trusted me from the beginning, and never asked for proof...is now seeing the results with their own eyes...

And it is very remunerative to see this facts already happening...

This is just the beginning...


Ufopolitics

[zapzap]

Beach Boys, When I grow up to be a man...

FM, consider sucking it up and be a man (if you are male, I don’t know) and quit embarrassing yourself and American men in general. Stop whining! Oh, he called me names… Sad.

Your paradigm is collapsing in front of your eyes, see my recent post in “My Asymmetric…” Look in the mirror real careful and maybe metaphorically you will see something swirling around faster and faster with a gurgling noise accompanying your path? And so much potential going down the tubes…

You want disclosure from UP? He’s going to do it in his terms, I assure you that you won’t make him P.E. his release of information. My guess is he has worked on this too long at too high a price to blow it in a manner that might well not allow it to root and flourish.

Give him his time and rope, if he turns out to be a fraud like you suspect, he will go to the dust bin of history and you will be properly vindicated. We have all been let down, one more potential BS’er won’t kill us. He isn’t. But you scrunch your eyes tight in fear of the light shinning through the door cracking open. Don’t be an energy vampire, embrace the light don’t dwell in the darkness?

No matter what, you are a gifted soul, best wishes on your choices.

[Aaron]

please edit your posts

This thread is becoming extremely unproductive as well so I'm closing it.

PLEASE - if you have a post in the Asymmetrical thread that uses profanity or any other kind of insult, whether you agree with UFO or not, please edit it to remove that language.

This applies to posts that are against UFO or his supporters for example but this also applies to posts from those that are disagreeing with Farmhand for example. Please clean it up and move on.

If this applies to posts in this thread, please do the same.