Keshe Fountain is going to release Antigravity and Freeenergy Patents to the World!!!

[Space]

Hello guysSpace,
What do you know about the Keshe power cell? In the webcast he said he has demonstrated this many times but I do not know of any demonstrations. He said it converts ambient magnetic fields into a flame and has been running for over 3 years. This sounds like another of his lies to me. As for as I know he has never demonstrated any free energy device. Do you know anything about it?

hey there!
actually, I have never read something about a Keshe power cell. not even on the website. there are no videos, nothing.

Hi All ,

Eng Keshe's last interview , he has mentioned the plasma magnetic field is not same as magnetic fields generated by the normal magnets.

If anybody know how to generate plasma magnetic field(mag-grave field), please show us the path.

Space,
I have been following Eng Keshe's interviews/ lectures for long time. In 2011 , he has mentined that his reactors does not make any harmfully effects, now he is telling us don't touch.
May be he is talking about the amount of Hydrogen and other materials in reactor need more control.

If somebody got his book,Please explain , what is plasma magnetic field and how to generate it,

Thanks
TDK

TDK, I have been there during his interview as well and I was very dissappointed to hear that only nuclear power engineers should build his devices... wtf?? as you said... originally he said it wasnt dangerous.
He was referring to the fields which are being generated inside the reactor which can, according to him, be very dangerous. so basically, more than 99% of us WILL NOT be able to replicate Keshes work. (FAIL!)

Now, I have ordered and TRIED to read his books (Im an electrical engineer and english teacher actually) but I failed to read em because his english is just so incredibly bad i couldnt keep up with it. It was just the worst english that i have ever seen in a book that cost me 40€!!!! (Thats a FRAUD in itsself!) He could at least have someone PROOF READ it! but its so unclear what me means with all his different fields because due to the many grammatical and spelling mistakes you get so confused that you have no idea what hes talking about. I have read many english books and studied many academic books which were quite difficult to understand but his books are just a total .. i dont know how to describe it.. lets just say a total bafflement. They are not scientific at all.

Just recently, before I read those books, I asked my students in class:

"Why do you think is it really important to understand and correctly learn a language?" (surely not to impress the girl you like..)

I told them "because in science it is exceedingly important to clearly state things and leave no unclarities... to communicate in such a way that other people can really understand you and know exactly what you mean"

But, this isnt the case in Keshes books. I have sent the Keshe foundation and email in which I am asking for a refund since his books are incomprehensible in every way. seriously. we will see what (or should I say IF?) they answer....

also, I ordered all three books at ONCE and still had to pay the delivery cost of 20€ THREE TIMES! I payed it because they didnt answer my emails regarding this problems and spending money on good books is no big deal for me, but if I receive something like THIS, i consider it complete FRAUD. I looked on the web how much it would really cost to send three books from Austria to Belgium and it was only 14€!!!!!! so actually, I payed 60€ delivery fee instead of 14€.

Yea, there you go. all my faith and hope in the keshe Foundation has died with these fail books.

I am not saying his technology doesnt work (there is no proof anyway), but I am telling everyone who reads this NOT TO BUY his books as they are a total waste of money and time. he doesnt tell you how to build his deevices by the way.

So, I am awaiting the 21th of september, and if there won't be a BIG CHANGE, it will be clear to me that he is a complete fraudster.

Best regards
Space

[xee2]

Hello M T Keshe,

I understand you are from Iran. I do not know how new scientific theories are presented there. But, in the United States a new theory is not accepted until there has been independent replication of the claims. Thus it is very hard for any scientist here to accept your theories because you have not provided the information needed for them to replicate your experiments. Please post details of how to perform experiments that will show the validity of your anti-gravity theory.

[ztec2002]

allright i will bite,just where are the replacations that prove this?
cheers ztec2002

[IndianaBoys]

allright i will bite,just where are the replications that prove this?
cheers ztec2002

ztec2002,

Was pulling together some basic Keshe references here so we could pool the talents to do the "simple" coke bottle reactor replication:

http://www.energeticforum.com/renewa...-graphene.html

Still need to locate the process/formula for this.

Keshe says he has published it. At this time it is like finding a needle in a haystack.

If anyone has Keshe references that will help reproduce the coke bottle reactor, please post them.

Maybe the upcoming 4 free pdf courses he is releasing soon will be of assistance in replicating some of his work.

IndianaBoys

[tutanka]

We all want a world with clean energy and free but we know that this can not happen because governments and were living with energy taxes. The patent of Mr.Keshe is very complicated using hydrogen and rare gases for the reaction, plasma , etc... Personally I do not think that would get the certification to install this device in our homes, maybe in 50 years when it had been proved that this technology is stable and not dangerous. The basic problem is that governments do not invest human and financial resources in researches for new clean energies for popular use and is understandable why. But I am also convinced that one day not too far away a group of non-scientists write a patent for a device that will simply use air and water to create enough heat and energy for our homes without strange and complicated process and all the people will be able to replicate this device.

[IndianaBoys]

We all want a world with clean energy and free but we know that this can not happen because governments and were living with energy taxes. The patent of Mr.Keshe is very complicated using hydrogen and rare gases for the reaction, plasma , etc... Personally I do not think that would get the certification to install this device in our homes, maybe in 50 years when it had been proved that this technology is stable and not dangerous. The basic problem is that governments do not invest human and financial resources in researches for new clean energies for popular use and is understandable why. But I am also convinced that one day not too far away a group of non-scientists write a patent for a device that will simply use air and water to create enough heat and energy for our homes without strange and complicated process and all the people will be able to replicate this device.

Tutanka,

Like Daniel Nocera of MIT has done with his nickel/cobalt 'Artificial Leaf':

BREAKTHROUGH: Could an Artificial Leaf Power Your Home?
BREAKTHROUGH: Could an Artificial Leaf Power Your Home? [MIRROR] - YouTube

Artificial Leaf Generates Electricity From Light
Artificial Leaf Generates Electricity From Light - YouTube

This solar-cell device mimics the ability of a leaf to convert sunlight into usable energy. It's the brainchild of a team led by MIT's Daniel G. Nocera, working in conjunction with researchers at SunCatalytix, a company Nocera founded.

The device is based on two water-splitting photocatalysts developed by Nocera's group. Simply dropping the solar cell in water and exposing it to light, O2 bubbles begin streaming off the side coated with a cobalt borate catalyst, and H2 bubbles begin streaming off the other side coated by a nickel-molybdenum-zinc alloy catalyst. If placed in a vessel with a barrier, the H2 and O2 could be collected separately and stored, and then later be used to power a fuel cell. Nocera envisions this type of simple, low-cost solar cell, once optimized, could be useful to power individual homes in developing regions around the world.

More information here Electrofuels Bump Up Solar Efficiency | November 28, 2011 Issue - Vol. 89 Issue 48 | Chemical & Engineering News


Now we just rework this to an open source grass roots level for all to benefit from.

IndianaBoys

[Web000x]

We all want a world with clean energy and free but we know that this can not happen because governments and were living with energy taxes. The patent of Mr.Keshe is very complicated using hydrogen and rare gases for the reaction, plasma , etc... Personally I do not think that would get the certification to install this device in our homes, maybe in 50 years when it had been proved that this technology is stable and not dangerous. The basic problem is that governments do not invest human and financial resources in researches for new clean energies for popular use and is understandable why. But I am also convinced that one day not too far away a group of non-scientists write a patent for a device that will simply use air and water to create enough heat and energy for our homes without strange and complicated process and all the people will be able to replicate this device.

Didn't you and a group of other scientists have a 100% H2O fuel system ready to be manufactured? That was a couple of years ago. What happened to it?

[tutanka]

Didn't you and a group of other scientists have a 100% H2O fuel system ready to be manufactured? That was a couple of years ago. What happened to it?

When no research funds are available but you work just privately you need more time for reach the same result, however from my side (I can't talk for others) actually I have semplify a lot the process, found new energy method for process water and for burn water directly, actually the device is just an "little boiler" that produce water heated and gas for cooking, all in the same unit. No complicate reactions like Mr. Keshe but just using water and nitrogen (from air).

[cplouffe]

Hey guys.... from the stuff I've read about Keshe's reactors and work it seems you could learn this on your own by studying Walter Russell. There are a few things I agree with on the reactions he is getting but not the cause of them. I do agree with it not being a chemical reaction though.

It sounds like he is just "transmuting" or changing the state/pressure conditions of whatever is in his top secret fluid and bottle.

I have been planning some tests on similar devices based on Russell before I found out about Keshe. But this is Universal knowledge and it is accessible and will continue to come out somewhere, somehow.

[KumSan]

Keshe is a scam. He promised to release the information on how to build the reactors and a demonstration on September 21st. He didn't do either. He is nothing more than a scammer. Until he releases the info on how to build the reactors and shows his reactor as promised now set for December 14th. I suggest nobody buy tickets to his demonstrations because they will never happen. He has nothing. He is a scammer.

[elias]

Keshe is a scam. He promised to release the information on how to build the reactors and a demonstration on September 21st. He didn't do either. He is nothing more than a scammer. Until he releases the info on how to build the reactors and shows his reactor as promised now set for December 14th. I suggest nobody buy tickets to his demonstrations because they will never happen. He has nothing. He is a scammer.

If he is, he has invested a lot in scamming .... ?

[KumSan]

If he is, he has invested a lot in scamming .... ?

He is a scammer. He promised to release the technology on Septermber 21st. Now he has postponed it to December 14th. That is one of the signs of a scam artist. Cancelling demonstrations. Below is the full list of signs of a scam artist here WEIRD SCIENCE: 'Free Energy' Articles . The list describes Keshe perfectly.

WARNING WARNING WARNING!
DO NOT GIVE MONEY TO PEOPLE INVOLVED IN "FREE ENERGY"!!!!
Several legitimate free energy researchers do exist, but they don't spend huge amounts on advertising like the scammers do. You probably won't have heard of them. The people who pursue wide publicity are almost all scam artists. If someone is making large amounts of money from selling books and videos on free energy, be very suspicious. If someone is selling plans for "real" free-energy devices, they are a ripoff. Don't waste your money. Or if someone is selling "Dealer ships" or invest ment oppor tunities for a free energy corp, hold tight to your wallet and RUN! Or, if you've already let them get their hands on your money, ask to see proof of the FE device, and see what excuse you're given. (It will be a very convincing excuse. Scam artists don't act sneaky. Scam artists survive because they seem far MORE honest and honorable than a normal person.) Remember that the "con" in "con game" means "confidence." They win your confidence first, then they go after your money. How to tell the difference between a con game and a real product? Easy: if you give them money before receiving a working FE device, then it's a scam, always.

How can we tell a free energy scam from an honest FE researcher? Here are some symptoms of a scam:

The researcher wants your money. He wants people to invest, he wants subscribers for expensive newsletters, wants to sell "Dealer ships", he wants individuals to make large "donations." Or sometimes he wants to sell you extremely expensive plans which do not work... or to sell you all sorts of books and videos about devices which don't do anything real. In any scam, the WHOLE POINT is to separate the victims from their wallets. (If absolutely no money is involved, then the researcher might be legit... or the scam might be less obvious.) Some scammers say that they want to improve the world (etc.), but then they somehow always avoid doing this. They keep secrets, they run complex buisness deals... they do all sorts of things except the most obvious ones: sending out simple and obvious proof to everyone, and getting working FE devices out into the public by all possible methods.

You'll notice that the scammer uses deception. Now we all know that the "FE" field is similar to people selling maps to lost gold mines, or it's like the used car arena: honest dealers may exist, but they are rare. The majority of publicized FE companies are con-artists selling worthless junk to gullible people. For this reason, real FE researchers are careful to remain scruptiously honest. They bend over backwards to avoid misleading anyone even a little. They have deep habits of honesty, and they don't tell all those little lies which would be acceptable in other situations. So if you notice a researcher using even the smallest "politician ploy" or "marketing techniques," then you're almost certainly dealing with a con-man. If you point out these failings, they'll give sensible excuses. But the symptom is the lack of brutal bend-over-backwards honesty.

How can we tell? Just ask the F/E hobbyists. While most "skeptics" are hopelessly biased, and will dishonestly claim that ALL free-energy inventors are scammers, you can still ask the online F/E community. They'll quickly set you straight about who is a ripoff artist and who is a legit experimenter.

FE hobbyist's scam watch sites:

Magniwork scam, Magnets4Energy scam , "Tesla's Secret" scam
Bogus "FE plans" sites
"Energy saving" scams
Adsitt's Scam Watch
NuScam (Perreault)
'Green Scheme' scammers

The invention violates current laws of physics. Well, that's OK, since historical inventions often violate the physics theories of their time. But if many other listed symptoms are present as well, then it's a scam.

The invention is unproven. It has not yet splashed itself across news headlines worldwide. "NEW SOURCE OF ENERGY DISCOVERED IN USA!" Nope. Scams always involve unproven inventions. Unproven inventions might be real or might not. But scammers often hide behind this fuzzy status.

The inventor keeps the device secret. That, or their patent lacks some critical information and nobody can build a working copy based on the patent. (A small critical piece of info remains secret.)

The scammer usually has a good website. Make that a GREAT website. Well, actually their website looks like it was build by site-design experts who charge enormous fees. Wow, look at that thing, how could they afford to create such an expensive monstrous "online facade?" And that's it exactly: FACADE. The scammers spend all their resources making an airtight facade: a false front which looks trustworthy. Sometimes it looks far more trustworthy than any legit company's website. It certainly looks more trustworthy than the website of a legit inventor. REAL inventors' websites are crap, since they're made by the inventor (since inventors can't afford to pay anyone, and also, why pay for something that you can build yourself?)

It's NOT the company's number one goal to prove that the invention is real. The scam company seems to have no goal besides creating an aura of attractive secrets: secrets which will only be revealed to an in-group of "superior" blue-blooded investors, while we rabble on the outside are obviously inferior since we haven't invested and don't know the secrets. (It's the old "treasure map" trick, playing up your victims' self-importance.) Scamsters have all sorts of other tricks to appeal to snobbery or inflate the egos of investors. They also have many really sensible excuses for not proving that their discovery is real. But honest companies just sit down and prove their claims beyond any doubt BEFORE gathering investors. After all, its unethical to take investors' money for extremely questionable and totally unproven devices as if they were normal inventions developed by reliable companies.

The company performs public demonstrations... but something always goes wrong. If it's a scam, then the "failure" was planned all along. When the inventor starts a demonstration, watch for the "failure" which excuses the inventor from having to actually prove the device. Or more rarely, the demonstration is simple fraud, such as a hidden power supply, or something similar to water-to-gasoline chemistry demonstrations where the stirring spoon has a wax plug which melts and releases the gasoline from a hidden pocket.

The inventor doesn't publish successful scientific research papers (i.e. he doesn't publish detailed replication instructions,) or if he does, other researchers can't get them to work. Something vital wasn't included.

The inventor uses Grand Conspiracies or government supression as an excuse. Yes, actual suppression and small, non-grand conspiracies really do exist. Some inventors have genuine horror stories about these. But if it's ALWAYS "the conspiracy's fault" and the inventor cannot test the device or even show good evidence that it works, or can't make progress despite years of investments or "donations," can't reveal history of the work, can't reveal device details... if "The Conspiracy" is to blame, or if "The Oil Companies have made threats," then it's a scam.

You risk being labeled as a "Scoffer" or "Government Spy." Some scammers manipulate their audience using the following ploy: "If you're not fighting for me, then obviously you must be against me." The scammer won't let you remain undecided about their invention. Instead he pressures and manipulates you to become his supporter. In other words, if you dare to look for flaws, or dare insist on clear and simple evidence, and if you refuse to jump on the scammer's bandwagon, you'll be attacked by the scammer and his supporters. They'll try to smear you with labels: "Nasty Skeptic," "Oil Company Shill," "CIA infiltrator." Even worse, other undecided people will see this happen. Those others may leap on the bandwagon out of fear; to avoid being Accused Of Witchcraft as you were. (In some online communities, just one accusation of Skepticism will get you permanently banished, so it's no small thing.) If you see this ploy in use, then you're certainly dealing with a seasoned expert in con-artist tactics.

The inventor doesn't give out working copies of the invention to independent labs for testing (the hardware stays secret and untested.)

Oh, did I forget to mention that the invention remains secret? Secret, secret, secret! Secrecy equals scam, scam equals secrecy.

The inventor makes one statement, then contradicts himself later. This string of lies may not be obvious, but is revealed by comparing various statements. A classic version is "The idea was given to me by god" ...followed later by "I must keep the invention a secret so idea-theives can't steal it." (Hmmm. If god has gifted mankind with the secret of free energy, why is this guy keeping it hidden, and worse, trying to make money off it?!! Gifts from god are supposed to be CONTROLLED? And SOLD?!)

The inventor hasn't tried winning any of the FE device prizes. Back in the days of flying machines, the genuine inventors were all questing after the several major prizes. They didn't distain the prizes and make excuses for not competing. But scammers sure do!
SEE: another list

[Jack Noskills]

If this is a scam, people should be very afraid. Scammers don't capture US spy drones intact flying at high altitude, so the drone has been given to them by US government. Why would US government support a scammer ? To make scammer look more convincing. People would then easier believe that their free energy generators are also real. Generator that is given in a sealed package that has GPS built in so that they cannot be moved when without notice once installed. GPS means device can transmit to satellites, if it can transmit it can also receive. This smells like remote controllable suitcase nukes to me.

Even ETs told us about this in their crop circle back in 2001 that had encoded message: 'Beware of false prophets and their broken promises.' (not whole message) And at what side of the globe you may call someone a prophet ?

Scary huh ?

Let us hope Keshe is the real deal.

[KumSan]

If this is a scam, people should be very afraid. Scammers don't capture US spy drones intact flying at high altitude, so the drone has been given to them by US government. Why would US government support a scammer ? To make scammer look more convincing. People would then easier believe that their free energy generators are also real. Generator that is given in a sealed package that has GPS built in so that they cannot be moved when without notice once installed. GPS means device can transmit to satellites, if it can transmit it can also receive. This smells like remote controllable suitcase nukes to me.

Even ETs told us about this in their crop circle back in 2001 that had encoded message: 'Beware of false prophets and their broken promises.' (not whole message) And at what side of the globe you may call someone a prophet ?

Scary huh ?

Let us hope Keshe is the real deal.

Keshe is a scammer. If he was for real he would have sold the technology to SpaceX or shown it to Steven Greers Orion Project or the X Prize Foundation. The fact that he hasn't proves he is nothing more than a scammer.

[KumSan]

Keshe is anti freedom. MT Keshe's Scary Politics .