Tesla's Free Energy Concept

[dR-Green]

A big thing with beginners, as well, is not only knowing where to start, but sorting through all the BS.

As far as this thread is concerned, the most important/useful information is in posts 2-5.

Like was pointed out later, it's time to get creative, and as Farmhand says improving efficiency. Where are the holes in your bucket, and what method can you devise for capturing what's leaking out. For instance, thermocouples/thermopiles on heat sources, turbines on high to low pressure channels of fluid or air, if your machine is very noisy, the principle of a microphone may be employed, sources of vibration can be converted, whatever you can think of. A car engine is used purely for motive power, when there is all kinds of wastage going on. All the waste is another form of energy that may be converted to do more work at no additional cost, because for example the environment transfers heat to cold by itself, you don't need to do anything more, except capture and make use of that flow. It's not only limited to electrical devices, it's about utilising "the medium", or nature, taking advantage of everything that happens anyway, thus reducing our energy needs and impact on the planet. If you're going to burn that oil, then at least get some proper use out of it instead of throwing most of it away through losses and inefficiencies.

"What you pay attention to, you become conscious of." - Ian Lungold

[Gav]

[Gav]

it seems DrGreen just wants to force his opinion upon everyone else and not listen to reason. for anyone interested it trying this, please do, it does work, im over this convo over and out

[dR-Green]

it seems DrGreen just wants to force his opinion upon everyone else and not listen to reason. for anyone interested it trying this, please do, it does work, im over this convo over and out

Have you read posts 2 & 3?

[edit] And what reason are you referring to?

And did I not tell you only five days ago that I will be keeping an eye on your progress?

I AM NOT SAYING THAT THE CONCEPT DOESN'T WORK. I have even put forth "my" idea in addition to the example given by Tesla as theoretical proof of Tesla's concept through basic physics, in fact it has been experimentally confirmed by probably millions of people, but not under scientific conditions. It stands to be dis-proven that your car is a free energy machine according to Tesla's principle. And the Tesla enthusiasts argue against it?

If you bother to read what is said and ignore Ufopolitics disagreeing with an imaginary opinion that certainly didn't come from me then you will see that the entire thing is based on trying to clear out the crap that has led to nothing useful in recorded history and deal with the facts as Tesla proposed them Nice work, "free energy researchers, experimenters and enthusiasts", covering up Tesla's own words and distracting with and reverting to utter crap once again. Tesla needn't have bothered to write a single word.

"He who knows, does not speak. He who speaks, does not know." - Lao Tzu

I can't imagine what might have led him to that conclusion. Can you?

[boguslaw]

I will give you simple and definitive answer why Tesla stated what he stated !

In simple words : having charged capacitor he knew he was able to power any load CONTINUOUSLY.

It's like all those mystical inventors circuits : they precharged capacitor and then switch power and that's all - it was running and running forever from this single capacitor flash.

If you are interested please read this topic and attached documents.

The correct theory of electricity

[Farmhand]

I will give you simple and definitive answer why Tesla stated what he stated !

In simple words : having charged capacitor he knew he was able to power any load CONTINUOUSLY.

It's like all those mystical inventors circuits : they precharged capacitor and then switch power and that's all - it was running and running forever from this single capacitor flash.

If you are interested please read this topic and attached documents.

The correct theory of electricity

The mystical inventors circuits are faked, show me one. Surely you can't
expect to be taken seriously when you come to a public forum and say
"having charged capacitor he knew he was able to power any load CONTINUOUSLY."

What does that mean ? Does it mean I can charge a 1 uF capacitor with 1 volt
then power North America with it for ever. Please clarify.

Show us. Far too many people talk of things as if they are fact but they can't
show the things they say they know are possible.

Why.

Cheers

P.S. I think it about time people started to ask for some evidence of these claims.

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[thx1138]

Dr. Tesla's tech suppression

@Ufopolitics, while what you say about oil companies, etc may to some degree be true there is another aspect to consider also. In my opinion it would have been the greater concern.

In the entire 19th century there was an almost constant state of war somewhere on the planet. It has been apparent since at least the Roman Empire and probably prior to that, that one of the most important facets of a war is communication with the troops and that those communications should be encrypted so that if they were intercepted by the enemy they could not be decrypted.

Dr. Tesla's wireless transmission of power was also a communication transmitter/receiver system which is how he initially promoted it. In two articles that I am aware of he made the claim that transmissions could be made as 'private as a thought'. That would absolutely create panic in the military establishment and may have led to suppression. It could also explain the suppression even into today's climate.

I did some research into computer security back in the 80's and one of the things I ran into was the suppression of the original Whitfield-Diffie public key cryptography system developed at MIT. Why? Because the NSA did not then have sufficient computer power to break the encryption. In their eyes the perfect crytography system is the one that only they can break.

I think the national security issues may override the economic factors. Keep in mind that the transverse wave radio of Marconi could be intercepted. I don't really know enough about cryptography of that day but consider that WW I was on the horizon and note the importance cryptography played in WW II.

You may also find this interesting: In 1902 there was an article by the renowned scientists of the day concerning the eventual depletion of coal reserves and that alternative sources of energy must be found before that day arrived. One man, Rear Admiral R. B. Bradford, got it right. He said that man's wit would solve the problem.

It is interesting to note the historical context. The industrial revolution was powered by coal and even in 1902 it was the predominant form of power for motive devices - steamships and railroads.

More interesting is that their solutions, excluding Admiral Bradford, were windmills, growing crops for fuel (ethonal), and conservation. Does that sound familiar? Thomas Edison had a solution that would break an environmentalist's heart.

The actual solution to "peak coal", if you will, was petroleum based fuels. Keep in mind the growth of civilization is based on mobility in the form of growing, collection, and distribution of food.

Google 'Tesla Said Ratzlaff' and you will find a downloadable PDF file which is a collection of Dr. Tesla's articles. The article starts on PDF page 73 which is pg 66 of the document. It's an interesting read. You will probably be surprised at Dr. Tesla's contribution.

At about the same time war was about to become mechanized and in that respect mobility is everything. Note the first tanks were introduced in WW I and WW II was the first full blown mechanized war. The single largest consumer of petroleum products in every nation in the world today is its military. So in today's world and ever since WW I one of the most important resources is fuel which is easily transported and deployed. Until someone comes up with a better fuel to replace petroleum products it will remain a very high national security priority.

The very nature of Dr. Tesla's transmitting industrial scale power world wide to be used by factories, airplanes and ships would empower one's enemies as well as one's own country. That was exactly his point - to do away with war. But to accomplish that other nations would have had to become dependent on Dr. Tesla's transmissions. Your last name being 'politics', I'm sure you can see the problem with that. How is the government of a foreign country going to be able to control their populations' access to power and how are they going to tax it?

Setting the world wide transmission of power aside, Dr. Tesla said in 'Tesla Describes his Efforts in Various Fields of Work' found in the Electrical Review November 30, 1892, 'Either power was to be developed on the spot by converting the energy of the sun’s radiations or the energy of vast reservoirs was to be transmitted economically to any distance. Though there were other possible sources of economical power, only the two solutions mentioned offer the ideal feature of power being obtained without any consumption of material. After long thought I finally arrived at two solutions, but on the first of these, namely, that referring to the development of power in any locality from the sun’s radiations, I can not dwell at present.'

It is my opinion that he later developed the ability to 'develop power on the spot' and that is what he used in his fuelless 1931 Pierce-Arrow. If that is correct then I can see where the oil companies would suppress the information but the previous discussion about empowering one's enemies still holds true. In war, if one side can destroy the fuel reserves of their enemy they can reduce their mobility.

But this developing power on the spot raises another environmental issue. If it is true that the power is produced by gathering static electricity from the atmosphere, what might be the environmental consequeces of two to four billion collectors around the world? Would we then destroy the source of lightning? What consequence would that have for the environment? Would we weaken the magnetic field of the planet by reducing the interplay between that electricity and the magnetic field?

I don't have a clue. Nor do I have any idea about how to even go about determining it.

[boguslaw]

I think there would be no consequences if the amount of energy would not exceed what is needed on the spot. However with centralized power station obtaining energy from "ambient background" it could disturb local weather and environment.

[thx1138]

On the spot power

This picture shows two things: Dr. Tesla's success with the polyphase AC electrical system and all of those locations that apply to 'on the spot' power. It was put together by NASA from different pictures of the planet when night was over that portion. EarthLights



I think the effects, if any, would be global, not local. Think also of all the things not shown in that photo like steel furnaces, aluminum induction furnaces, and a multitude of other electrical power consumption that does not produce light visible from space.

[boguslaw]

Chemical pollution makes more havoc. I'm also not talking about trapping ions from air - they are important for cleaning envinronment. I'm talking about tapping the energy flow responsible for gravity and magnetic field.

[Gav]

unless a huge funnel was made i dont think it would much difference either, im thinking we are doing more damage at the moment. the earth is covered in a spiderweb of power lines, im sure they woud be doing something to the magnetic forces of the earth and throwing it out of ballance, this idea would be alot better then the spiderweb we are used to

[wayne.ct]

The source of voltage (EMF) in the atmosphere

In case you were not aware, wind is powered by the sun heating some surfaces differentially. An, wind moving over different surfaces "generates" static electricity. The amount of energy available by taping potentials at elevation is limited by the energy of the sun striking the atmosphere.

I have stated this as if there were no disagreement, but this is basically the conventional view.

It would be great if we had our own individual "cold" power sources to power our vehicles and homes. I have been watching and reading here and even doing a few experiments, but so far the cost of the best candidates is beyond my means.

[dR-Green]

It would be great if we had our own individual "cold" power sources to power our vehicles and homes. I have been watching and reading here and even doing a few experiments, but so far the cost of the best candidates is beyond my means.

What might that be?

[boguslaw]

What might that be?

Inertial force we call gravitation...

[boguslaw]

The mystical inventors circuits are faked, show me one. Surely you can't
expect to be taken seriously when you come to a public forum and say
"having charged capacitor he knew he was able to power any load CONTINUOUSLY."

What does that mean ? Does it mean I can charge a 1 uF capacitor with 1 volt
then power North America with it for ever. Please clarify.

Show us. Far too many people talk of things as if they are fact but they can't
show the things they say they know are possible.

Why.

Cheers

P.S. I think it about time people started to ask for some evidence of these claims.

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Can't do that. If I had a working device I would have no time (and probably a lot of restrictions) to post here. However that is not a blind guess, I made a deep investigation and I pretty sure Tesla knew such method. We don't know because we are trapped into the current understanding of electricity, while it is a "ethernal music" and electrons are only small magnetized balls.
All you have to do is to find common denominator of many theories ..they match very well. Ed Leedscalnin, Joseph Newman, Don Smith.
Behind electrons there are longitudinal waves pushing them.