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  • #76
    Originally posted by Ufopolitics View Post
    Most available Neons are just signal low lumen lamps...not good but just for experimenters and science development...and remember..."Concerned Consumers" want it NOW and working good, not a lousy light, they can not even see their fingers at night..
    "This single wire switched mode power supply output after a suitable time interval, during which the high frequency currents are allowed to act, may manifest itself in a powerful discharge which may be utilized for the operation of neon bulbs beyond their usual luminosity or rendered useful in many other ways."

    http://www.teslascientific.com/

    "Knowledge is cosmic. It does not evolve or unfold in man. Man unfolds to an awareness of it. He gradually discovers it." - Walter Russell

    "Once men died for Truth, but now Truth dies at the hands of men." - Manly P. Hall

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    • #77
      Originally posted by dR-Green View Post
      Yes, but you are not considering this - why should they?
      They "should"...simply and just, because "They", were the ONLY ones who have suppressed,mutilated and seized all this technologies.

      Why don't you pay for something, and then give it to me for free?
      Oh!, You have asked the "wrong guy"...this question...

      As a matter of fact, I am giving "it", to you and many here, while NONE, have ANY idea of "how much I have "paid and ...still paying" for ALL this"......Now, the fact that you do not want to play with "movable, electrodynamic devices", maybe because afraid to get accidentally injured...is beyond my control...

      Now, may I ask You back...What have you "given/contributed" so far in all your time of work?



      If it's discharged then you will have to wait a suitable time interval again.

      Why is it that all common sense and electrical knowledge suddenly goes out the window? Charge a condenser, discharge it, then you have to charge it back up again. If the load exceeds the supply, then no matter how big the capacity, it will eventually be completely discharged.
      I ask just, the same exact thing over and over..."Why is it that all common sense and electrical knowledge suddenly goes out the window?"

      Remember the CW (Cockcroft-Walton)...or the Marx Multipliers..?...They charge discharge caps so fast...that there is absolutely ZERO time for cap to ever discharge...while loading galore...
      Besides...what are Batteries for?...why are Inverters for?
      And Super-Caps...

      There is so much ...Dr Green...you seem to be forgetting about...



      It would seem that Morgan wasn't all bad.
      Most of people that have read Nikola Tesla, know his "naive" personality...as He was also an Educated person, He had Ethics, besides being a Humanist ...so, You will never find in ANY writings from Him, expressing in a bad manner, about any other person (except when he was referring to the "bacteria and worst microbes"... etc...and that has been "the worst" expression I ever read about Tesla)...So, now you could also bring "His Opinion" from Thomas Alva Edison...saying "He was a nice guy"...When He was frying Elephants, Dogs, Cats in Public to prove Tesla AC was bad...

      As you may also remember...when Nikola Tesla tore apart a 10 Million USD Contract with George Westinghouse, when ...in the "War of Currents"...GE (Founded by J.P Morgan and Edison) were making miserable the existence of Westinghouse...\

      Morgan was BAD, VERY, Please see Orson Wells, The Secrets of Nikola Tesla...Film also never allowed "officially" in the U.S....but ,from used and old copies underground "negotiated"...but there is the truth...of J.P Morgan...
      (Now, go and find it at Amazon.com and bring it here... )

      Also you need to read Tom Bearden...related to "The Curtailment of Nikola Tesla"...

      And find out Who hired, but J.P Morgan, Hendrik Lorentz, to manipulate, seize and mutilate all the Maxwellian Asymmetrical Equations, The Giant Electromagnetic Curled Equation from Heaviside as also the Poynting EM Factor...

      I know you, Dr Green, and you are a pretty young and Intelligent guy...but, just because of being young...you still need to keep doing research...all along our History...before emitting the wrong conclusions out in the air... However, I know, just because I have children near or close to your age...and you guys love to "jump the Gun" at all times, you tend to underestimate a whole world, while you are smarter...and that's wrong attitude...I never stop telling my "kids", about "how bad is to do that"...


      Regards


      Ufopolitics
      Last edited by Ufopolitics; 09-25-2012, 10:37 PM.
      Principles for the Development of a Complete Mind: Study the science of art. Study the art of science. Develop your senses- especially learn how to see. Realize that everything connects to everything else.― Leonardo da Vinci

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      • #78
        Originally posted by Farmhand View Post
        It's not the power companies and oil companies that are to blame it is the consumer.
        No it's deeper than that, it's the monetery system that puts profits ahead of morals.

        It goes much deeper than that. Do you take the blue pill or the red pill!

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        • #79
          Thank You!

          Originally posted by GSM View Post
          Yes Ufo, and at least half the 50-60Hz energy supplied to conventional flourescent tube lighting is wasted in that 'ballast' as heat and not light.
          Hello GSM,

          Thank You!!




          Regards


          Ufopolitics
          Principles for the Development of a Complete Mind: Study the science of art. Study the art of science. Develop your senses- especially learn how to see. Realize that everything connects to everything else.― Leonardo da Vinci

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          • #80
            You...Telling Me?

            Originally posted by dR-Green View Post
            "This single wire switched mode power supply output after a suitable time interval, during which the high frequency currents are allowed to act, may manifest itself in a powerful discharge which may be utilized for the operation of neon bulbs beyond their usual luminosity? or rendered useful in many other ways."

            Oh! Dr Green!

            Can not believe You are telling Me this!...about that Plasma Purple Sphere of Light...
            Remember when you told me, that you "The only time you have seen that light, were seconds before your MOSFET's got fried?...

            Now you are "distorting" Tesla's words there!!...

            Now you are "playing dirty"...lol


            Don't worry, I still like you...


            Regards


            Ufopolitics
            Principles for the Development of a Complete Mind: Study the science of art. Study the art of science. Develop your senses- especially learn how to see. Realize that everything connects to everything else.― Leonardo da Vinci

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            • #81
              Ikea...

              Oh!, absolutely!

              All the HF Patents are there, not suppressed...

              Oh yes!...all patents are just like an IKEA Instruction Manual (You put it together/Assemble furniture)..


              Oil Companies and Power Companies...are not "to blame"...


              Oh no, absolutely not...

              Ask them how many Patents related to Free Energy they all have bought from needed of money Inventors...all along our history...

              Also Bankers are there...don't forget them...

              Ufopolitics
              Principles for the Development of a Complete Mind: Study the science of art. Study the art of science. Develop your senses- especially learn how to see. Realize that everything connects to everything else.― Leonardo da Vinci

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              • #82
                Originally posted by Ufopolitics View Post
                Morgan was BAD, VERY, Please see Orson Wells, The Secrets of Nikola Tesla...Film also never allowed "officially" in the U.S....but ,from used and old copies underground "negotiated"...but there is the truth...of J.P Morgan...
                (Now, go and find it at Amazon.com and bring it here... )
                Yes, good film

                Originally posted by Ufopolitics View Post
                Also you need to read Tom Bearden...related to "The Curtailment of Nikola Tesla"...
                You need to read Eric Dollard

                I've seen many of Tom Bearden's videos. The difference is there's no useful information given, "the story" is irrelevant today. There's only so many times I can hear the same thing before I get sick of it. Far more interesting than reading and watching things like that is actually building the devices and seeing the effects directly.

                Originally posted by Ufopolitics View Post
                you still need to keep doing research...all along our History...before emitting the wrong conclusions out in the air.
                Well here is the point of quoting Tesla directly rather than providing wrong conclusions without the reference material. The hope is that people have a brain and know how to make use of it Frankly if they believe anyone else's opinion then it's their own fault.
                http://www.teslascientific.com/

                "Knowledge is cosmic. It does not evolve or unfold in man. Man unfolds to an awareness of it. He gradually discovers it." - Walter Russell

                "Once men died for Truth, but now Truth dies at the hands of men." - Manly P. Hall

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                • #83
                  Originally posted by Ufopolitics View Post
                  Oh! Dr Green!

                  Can not believe You are telling Me this!...about that Plasma Purple Sphere of Light...
                  Remember when you told me, that you "The only time you have seen that light, were seconds before your MOSFET's got fried?...

                  Now you are "distorting" Tesla's words there!!...

                  Now you are "playing dirty"...lol
                  This is a different effect. The transistor fried and the neon blew up in a deliberately high voltage setup. The thing I'm referring to here is charging a condenser up to 230 volts from one wire output of 12 volt switched mode power supplies, and then discharging the condenser "powerfully" through the neon bulb, in a bright flash. Alternatively the condenser can be bypassed and a constant but dimmer operation of the neon can be maintained. The point is that to get the powerful discharge, the condenser needs to be charged; a time interval must pass, and then it can be discharged, before starting the process all over again. It's not possible to maintain the neon at full brightness. So the distorted Tesla words are to illustrate this fact, that the powerful discharges are separated by time intervals. The constant discharge is much weaker.
                  http://www.teslascientific.com/

                  "Knowledge is cosmic. It does not evolve or unfold in man. Man unfolds to an awareness of it. He gradually discovers it." - Walter Russell

                  "Once men died for Truth, but now Truth dies at the hands of men." - Manly P. Hall

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                  • #84
                    Originally posted by dR-Green View Post
                    Yes, good film



                    You need to read Eric Dollard

                    I've seen many of Tom Bearden's videos. The difference is there's no useful information given, "the story" is irrelevant today. There's only so many times I can hear the same thing before I get sick of it. Far more interesting than reading and watching things like that is actually building the devices and seeing the effects directly.



                    Well here is the point of quoting Tesla directly rather than providing wrong conclusions without the reference material. The hope is that people have a brain and know how to make use of it Frankly if they believe anyone else's opinion then it's their own fault.
                    Dr Green, I will tell you...


                    I have found MANY real "theories" and "Stories" that have come to make sense to me at Lab Time testing/developments...and that have been Mainly from Tom Bearden , not only videos, but also His Book, "Energy from the Vacuum" as many other articles freely accessible on His site. He has been backed up by many Lab Tests uploaded at J.L Naudin site, like Dr Chong Carbon Fiber Negative Resistor Test...That I have also conducted...positively and certainly very true..

                    As also have been of a great help to my research, the Free Articles from Vladimir Utkin, published at Mr Patrick Kelly's website.

                    I do love "The History" behind all this...why?

                    Remember my last name is "Politics"...

                    And just because there would be a "Judgement Day"...One Day...you can bet for sure, like you are reading me now... it will be...

                    Besides the Fact...People have the right "To Know"...to Know all the Scams...all the hidden "in fine print" patent laws, patent forms...Inventor Secrecy Laws as also "The Penalties Involved" in case "Violations" occurs...

                    The FOIA (Freedom Of Information Act) tells you another story...very different from those Inventor suppression laws...and forms...

                    And they could be downloaded anytime from the U.S PTO.gov...


                    Regards



                    Ufopolitics
                    Principles for the Development of a Complete Mind: Study the science of art. Study the art of science. Develop your senses- especially learn how to see. Realize that everything connects to everything else.― Leonardo da Vinci

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                    • #85
                      Originally posted by soundiceuk View Post
                      No it's deeper than that, it's the monetery system that puts profits ahead of morals.

                      It goes much deeper than that. Do you take the blue pill or the red pill!
                      Please, it would be better if we avoid such discussions here. However, Farmhand is correct It's ALL supply and demand. The population demand to use money, so they have it, they are to blame for poverty as much as the "evil bankers". Two sides of the same coin. Only one side believes that they have no choice in the matter. What happened to democracy?

                      The ridiculous thing is that if you want to build a "free energy" device to benefit humanity, the bankers won't get in your way, it will be Joe Sixpack, you will have to pay him for the materials, he will demand to be paid, so you can give it back to him at no cost. So the ignorant population are as much to blame for Tesla's failure and any "lost technologies" as the evil bankers and power companies.

                      Of course, rather than private investment and privately owned power stations, the population could invest in their own system if they wanted to, thereby having no one to pay bills to and telling "them" "we're not going to play any more!" That'll be the day
                      Last edited by dR-Green; 09-25-2012, 11:40 PM.
                      http://www.teslascientific.com/

                      "Knowledge is cosmic. It does not evolve or unfold in man. Man unfolds to an awareness of it. He gradually discovers it." - Walter Russell

                      "Once men died for Truth, but now Truth dies at the hands of men." - Manly P. Hall

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                      • #86
                        Apples and Bananas...

                        Originally posted by dR-Green View Post
                        This is a different effect. The transistor fried and the neon blew up in a deliberately high voltage setup. The thing I'm referring to here is charging a condenser up to 230 volts from one wire output of 12 volt switched mode power supplies, and then discharging the condenser "powerfully" through the neon bulb, in a bright flash. Alternatively the condenser can be bypassed and a constant but dimmer operation of the neon can be maintained. The point is that to get the powerful discharge, the condenser needs to be charged; a time interval must pass, and then it can be discharged, before starting the process all over again. It's not possible to maintain the neon at full brightness. So the distorted Tesla words are to illustrate this fact, that the powerful discharges are separated by time intervals. The constant discharge is much weaker.

                        See you are "Interpreting" Tesla's words wrongfully, according to "Your Experiment", with a Cap and a Neon...for God sake!!

                        That is a completely different Interpretation when He is talking about that "time Interval"...to get a "Powerful Discharge"...

                        Now, can you tell me... that Dr Nikola Tesla..was NOT going to "know the difference" if it was a "Lapsed short timed discharge" (like the one from "Your Capacitor") what He was referring to...Do you REALLY THINK...He was EVER going to say ...which may be utilized for the operation or control of mechanical or electrical devices or rendered useful in many other ways..."?

                        If He was NOT SURE of what He was talking about?

                        And now we all may preach "Your Chorus" according to your little Capacitor and small bulb test?...and apply it to Dr Tesla's Words?!!

                        Let me tell you this..."You've got balls Brother!!"


                        Underestimation of someone like Dr Nikola Tesla...is a serious error and mistake Dr Green.
                        Principles for the Development of a Complete Mind: Study the science of art. Study the art of science. Develop your senses- especially learn how to see. Realize that everything connects to everything else.― Leonardo da Vinci

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                        • #87
                          Most of them...

                          Originally posted by dR-Green View Post
                          Please, it would be better if we avoid such discussions here. However, Farmhand is correct It's ALL supply and demand. The population demand to use money, so they have it, they are to blame for poverty as much as the "evil bankers". Two sides of the same coin. Only one side believes that they have no choice in the matter. What happened to democracy?

                          The ridiculous thing is that if you want to build a "free energy" device to benefit humanity, the bankers won't get in your way, it will be Joe Sixpack, you will have to pay him for the materials, he will demand to be paid, so you can give it back to him at no cost. So the ignorant population are as much to blame for Tesla's failure and any "lost technologies" as the evil bankers and power companies.

                          Of course, rather than private investment and privately owned power stations, the population could invest in their own system if they wanted to, thereby having no one to pay bills to and telling "them" "we're not going to play any more!" That'll be the day

                          There ARE a LOT of Scammers out there related to "Free Energy Devices"...there are MANY, making a Living by selling Literature and other "stuff" that does not work at all, but for "Entertainment" of young apprentices in the Fields...that is a FACT.

                          Derived from that, are many that go to your cited "Joe Six Pack" to have their Scam Toy assembled , just because they have not even idea what is a soldering iron...or a transistor...and unfortunately, also derived from the Corporations-Bankers, Oil Industries exploitation of mankind for sooo long...that ignorant and not educated on this fields population is a majority...all over our animal planet...

                          I do not laugh about this facts...they make me sad...and pissed off...bad mix, I know...

                          All this facts have contributed for Oil Industry to be so successful up to now...plus more...but that's it...for today...


                          Regards



                          Ufopolitics
                          Principles for the Development of a Complete Mind: Study the science of art. Study the art of science. Develop your senses- especially learn how to see. Realize that everything connects to everything else.― Leonardo da Vinci

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                          • #88
                            Originally posted by Ufopolitics View Post
                            See you are "Interpreting" Tesla's words wrongfully, according to "Your Experiment", with a Cap and a Neon...for God sake!!
                            That was a deliberate and sarcastic twisting of Tesla's words, because I can show the same thing as is described by Tesla, even though it's an entirely different application. I can charge a condenser during a suitable time interval, and discharge it powerfully.
                            http://www.teslascientific.com/

                            "Knowledge is cosmic. It does not evolve or unfold in man. Man unfolds to an awareness of it. He gradually discovers it." - Walter Russell

                            "Once men died for Truth, but now Truth dies at the hands of men." - Manly P. Hall

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                            • #89
                              Now will arrive "The Conservative Tea Party"...

                              Well, as always...I will expect later on...all the "Contributions" from the...

                              Free Energy Conservative Tea Party Members...

                              To start all kind of fire...against me...and my "ego's"...
                              And my whatever...

                              I could not care less, really!

                              But it seems Dr Green, your Article Thread here...is like Sweet Glue for Flies is, this is for this "Tea Party"... ...They just love it and can not "hold on" to their horses to rant all over...

                              So let it be...after all it is a Democracy right?....


                              So Goodnight, I have to keep building...


                              Ufopolitics
                              Principles for the Development of a Complete Mind: Study the science of art. Study the art of science. Develop your senses- especially learn how to see. Realize that everything connects to everything else.― Leonardo da Vinci

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                              • #90
                                Originally posted by Ufopolitics View Post
                                There ARE a LOT of Scammers out there related to "Free Energy Devices"...there are MANY, making a Living by selling Literature and other "stuff" that does not work at all, but for "Entertainment" of young apprentices in the Fields...that is a FACT.

                                Derived from that, are many that go to your cited "Joe Six Pack" to have their Scam Toy assembled , just because they have not even idea what is a soldering iron...or a transistor...and unfortunately, also derived from the Corporations-Bankers, Oil Industries exploitation of mankind for sooo long...that ignorant and not educated on this fields population is a majority...all over our animal planet...

                                I do not laugh about this facts...they make me sad...and pissed off...bad mix, I know...

                                All this facts have contributed for Oil Industry to be so successful up to now...plus more...but that's it...for today...


                                Regards



                                Ufopolitics
                                Well it's like this. People are not babies, they don't need to be spoon fed and pampered like fools. Some of us are supposedly aware, despite the supposed suppression, which is true to a certain extent, but the fact remains, here we are talking about it. What makes us different? You are responsible for educating yourself, and some people are. Others are not. The ones who prefer to play the victim will be the ones who don't bother to do anything, their game is blaming someone else for their situation therefore having an excuse to continue to sit on their fat asses and do nothing. That's what they want. They are choosing not to have a choice. No one is going to come along and "save" them all, because the only thing they can be saved from is themselves. Also they tend to get pretty mad when you contradict their game, because they don't want to know of their ability to change anything. "Poor me, BAD bankers!" Tell them how they are disadvantaged as a result of someone else and they will be grovelling at your feet. Tell them the truth, and get ready to run for the nearest exit.
                                http://www.teslascientific.com/

                                "Knowledge is cosmic. It does not evolve or unfold in man. Man unfolds to an awareness of it. He gradually discovers it." - Walter Russell

                                "Once men died for Truth, but now Truth dies at the hands of men." - Manly P. Hall

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