Mikhail Dmitriyev - Input 1000 W, Output near 3000 W.

[drak]

A Patent does this very nicely.........[private foundations or otherwise]

Open source of course!!

Thx
Chet

I'm not following you, could you explain a little further?

[soundiceuk]

Never give a man a stick to beat you with....
A Patent does this very nicely.........[private foundations or otherwise]

Open source of course!!

Thx
Chet


Drak I think you missed the "Never give the man a stick to beat you with..."

which is above the text.

I think this because I did too.

[soundiceuk]

I've also changed my mind about open source. It would be nice, but if this is replicated it would be nicer to get a worldwide crowdfunding thing going for say a nice pot of cash for Mikhail in exchange for him transferring the patent rights to a foundation set up purely to sit on patents.

Just a thought.

When this technology is proven we could count heads and decide what amount we could all afford to put into a pot each month.

Then vote on how the funds were to be used.

Anyone wishing to join the group would have to put in the same amount any individual had already put into the pot.

If there is a large amount of people the monthly figure will be small. As more people join the figure could decrease.

Any profits made could go back into the pot so it isn't profit.

Infact a trust may be the best way.

No one owns anything then.

[Regster]

Couple of questions about the motor/generator in the middle....

Considering that it is the most expensive single piece of the build, re future proofing for potential improvements in performance would buying one capable of generating a net 15kW run at these lower loads?

Are these off the shelf units... if so could someone link to one/two?

[soundiceuk]

Electric Motor, Three Phase, 15Kw, 20HP,1400 rpm.(3Ph) | eBay


3 Phase Electric Motor 25HP (18.5kw), 1400rpm, 180M | eBay


Q. Hi, can the motor also be used as a generator?

I'm guessing it is an induction motor and therefore it can.


A. Paul, yes induction motor so can be adapted, i cant offer any advice as I dont have experience of doing it.

[soundiceuk]

I'm trying to consider whether using a single phase motor for the input and a permanent magnet generator as the output would be far more efficient.

These are just my thoughts.

Negatives:

The frame would have to accomodate both.

More gearing.

Increased cost.


Positives:

Removes the three phase output problem.

Frequency inverter would not be needed.

Self looping would be simpler.

[purelyprimitives]

I think I'm now leaning toward separate input and output devices based on his last video and the positives and negatives you mention. Although I don't personally see the negatives as all that bad. Regarding the gearing, if it turns out that the 'kick' wheel isn't really necessary, then that alone will reduce the overall gearing or at least offset any additional required for two separate devices.

Any news on proto 12?

[woopy]

Hi Paul and all

i have mentionned this motor /generator some post ago

here the link

http://www.google.ch/url?sa=t&rct=j&...777IdA&cad=rja

i wonder if this is of any use here

good luck at all

Laurent

[soundiceuk]

I think I'm now leaning toward separate input and output devices based on his last video and the positives and negatives you mention. Although I don't personally see the negatives as all that bad. Regarding the gearing, if it turns out that the 'kick' wheel isn't really necessary, then that alone will reduce the overall gearing or at least offset any additional required for two separate devices.

Any news on proto 12?

No news yet

It looks like the 7 o'clock free wheel is going to work from what I have seen so far.

[soundiceuk]

Hi Paul and all

i have mentionned this motor /generator some post ago

here the link

http://www.google.ch/url?sa=t&rct=j&...777IdA&cad=rja

i wonder if this is of any use here

good luck at all

Laurent

Woah!!! I bet that is pricey!

I will have to email them unless you have done so already.

Maybe there are other types like this on the market.

[purelyprimitives]

It looks like the 7 o'clock free wheel is going to work from what I have seen so far.

That's great news! Are you at liberty to share anything of what you've seen?

[soundiceuk]

That's great news! Are you at liberty to share anything of what you've seen?

I believe you have sent me your email address.

I know you have been following closely from your youtube comments and your posts from this thread.

I will ask permission.

[purelyprimitives]

I believe you have sent me your email address.

I know you have been following closely from your youtube comments and your posts from this thread.

I will ask permission.

Thank you! If you need my email address again let me know.

[purelyprimitives]

@5150

There were 2 spam responses that were removed. Perhaps you missed them but they had nothing to do with this thread and possibly contained viruses.

[soundiceuk]

Here is the PR6000 Frequency Inverter Manual:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/4bvzoxeooz...20Manual.pdf?m


I have added this to the comments section on youtube video:

addition6.The system is ready to closing the loop

addition6.The system is ready to closing the loop - YouTube

Fault Code: Er07

Fault name: Under voltage at operating

Possible cause: Abnormal input voltage

Solution: Examine supply voltage


& this to:

addition5.Full active load

addition5.Full active load - YouTube

Fault Code: Er02

Fault name: Over current at constant speed operation

Possible cause: Too small inverter power

Solution: Choose the inverter of large power