Mikhail Dmitriyev - Input 1000 W, Output near 3000 W.

[soundiceuk]

There are a number of replications on the go.

Some people have chosen to communicate through me which is fine.

Here is replication 1 so far:

https://www.dropbox.com/sh/ikrznic8j9omlgu/OGof5XoUVV?m

The replicator is having problems with the some of the shafts being slightly too small in diameter.

He has tried to build them up with laquer, JB Weld and also polyurethane with no luck and now some of the bearings are jammed. Luckily he has a few spare.

It has been suggested by another replicator to try aluminum tape.

The weight of the deflecting elements is less than a twelfth of Mikhail's weights.

Each of the 32 elements weights 0.45kg compared to Mikhails 6kg (3kg per steel cylinder).

Thoughts welcomed

[5150]

There are a number of replications on the go.

Some people have chosen to communicate through me which is fine.

Here is replication 1 so far:

https://www.dropbox.com/sh/ikrznic8j9omlgu/OGof5XoUVV?m

The replicator is having problems with the some of the shafts being slightly too small in diameter.

He has tried to build them up with laquer, JB Weld and also polyurethane with no luck and now some of the bearings are jammed. Luckily he has a few spare.

It has been suggested by another replicator to try aluminum tape.

The weight of the deflecting elements is less than a twelfth of Mikhail's weights.

Each of the 32 elements weights 0.45kg compared to Mikhails 6kg (3kg per steel cylinder).

Thoughts welcomed

Well the guy doing this project must know something because the fan in image #1 seems to already be working and he hasn't even begun the project. Or is the fan not part of the project and drawing energy from a wall plug? I'm not sure ????



https://www.dropbox.com/sh/ikrznic8j...s/DSCN0119.jpg

[soundiceuk]

Don't worry about those early shots.

Just a pile of wood on the floor.

Some replicators make very good records of their progress via their pictures.

A memory of the journey to success or failure.

[5150]

Don't worry about those early shots.

Just a pile of wood on the floor.

Some replicators make very good records of their progress via their pictures.

A memory of the journey to success or failure.

I wasn't sure at first since there were two fans in the room, I figured the one in the far corner was to keep the place cool and the one next to the project was running on some sort of energy from the wood or the project..

anyway its good to know others are trying this project and I look forward to seeing the results anyway

[soundiceuk]

I have been clearing out the garage contemplating a full size replication.

I agree with Regster that it isn't a good idea for lots of people dissapearing into their sheds to make a replication when there is software out there to streamline the design.

However, I have been offered free access to the team of a very reputable specialist UK CAD company by the company owner providing I can demonstrate to him what Mikhail is trying to prove.

Unfortunately I have the contacts and time to do it but not the money.

[5150]

Unfortunately I have the contacts and time to do it but not the money.

I wish i could help, I'm doing good just to pay my court fees and stay out of jail.

if I do come into any money I'll be sure to help

[RAMSET]

Give Clanzer a shout

Paul

Perhaps a chat with Clanzer in the UK would go a long way?
Never saw anyone with a better Gift for improvisation /getting it done with a tight budget.

CLaNZeR Playing with magnets

Besides, he's a great guy!!

Chet

[Regster]

Thoughts welcomed

Basically, if a wheel at 7 o'clock did the work his hand was doing and the device kept spinning (accelerating?) then it's job done as far as proof of concept. Would it be possible to try that?

[norman6538]

oneway bearings

Can someone explain the one way bearings.
here they get manually set but how do they get reset?
Norman


tips weights by hand and the wheel starts turning
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/ikrznic8j...:Stage%201.avi
here he tips the bottom weights and the wheel starts to turn
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/ikrznic8j...:Stage%202.avi

[Regster]

Can someone explain the one way bearings.
here they get manually set but how do they get reset?
Norman

You have to remember that the position of the weights and action of the one-way bearing is relative to the point they are attached to on the wheel, not the static position we are viewing the wheel from.

[norman6538]

oneway bearings

I see how they get reset now. They flip over when they get to the bottom
because they are always rotating counter clockwise ie kicked up at the top
and dropped at the bottom.

A simple ratchet should also do that and so would a wedge properly designed.
The 2 videos helped me to see that.

Norman

[purelyprimitives]

Can someone explain the one way bearings.
here they get manually set but how do they get reset?
Norman

They actually reset themselves. Remember that they are free to rotate counter-clockwise and as the main wheel rotates clockwise the orientation of the locked weights changes. After the weights reach the 6:00 position, gravity keeps the weights in the downward position and the weights are free to rotate in a counter-clockwise direction (again with respect to the main wheel). Hope this helps.

[soundiceuk]

Thanks for suggesting Clanzer. I have come across his name before somewhere. I can't remember where yet.

Here is an idea open to suggestions / improvements.

A group effort to build a full size steel version.

There are 7,826 views to this thread and I think 189 posts.

Divide 7826 by 189 = 41.


I'm not sure whether those views are members or non members but I'm guessing approx 30-40 members are actively following this thread.

If (BIG IF) 30 - 40 members were to put lets say $10 into a group pot each month then we could collectively build a full scale version with very little risk.

The final product could then be sold or used as a marketing tool to receive orders for kits.

Anyone involved would receive their kit for free when that became viable.


This is not saying yes to my idea but what about a head count at least just to see how many are following the thread.

Stick you name here: (Cut and paste)

soundiceuk (Paul T)

[Regster]

I'm always willing to donate.

I do think though that if the 7 o'clock wheel produces spontaneous (or continuing after a push) motion then it's job done in terms of proof of concept. I think that should be tried ASAP.

If that doesn't work then it needs to get (slightly) more complicated, but I think not checking that out in a pure form when it's just about there anyway would be counter-productive. There would be a lot of mileage from that alone.

[purelyprimitives]

If (BIG IF) 30 - 40 members were to put lets say $10 into a group pot each month then we could collectively build a full scale version with very little risk.

The final product could then be sold or used as a marketing tool to receive orders for kits.

Anyone involved would receive their kit for free when that became viable.


This is not saying yes to my idea but what about a head count at least just to see how many are following the thread.

Stick you name here: (Cut and paste)

soundiceuk (Paul T)

This would make perfect sense if it weren't for the supposed imminent release of prototype 12. We still don't know what this will be. We only know that it will be "smaller and more efficient". Any effort toward building a prototype 11 might quickly become an investment in 'old technology'. I'm only suggesting that we wait to see what he has for us in prototype 12 and then move forward.