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  • Crystal Cell Research

    This thread will be about crystal cells and all the things about crystal cells. The goal is to avoid galvanic batteries.

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    I'll start this thread off with some of my work with crystal cells. I have some cell that go up in power while under a load. You connect a resistor to the cell and it will drop down in voltage across the resistor like any other battery but then it will start to climb back up in voltage over time.

    Here is a video of a cell going up in power when given a load. Crystal Cell power goes up under load - YouTube


    Here is the data from the data logger.
    Crystal Cell going up in power underloadPDF02.pdf


    Here is the data from the logger measuring the voltage all day. It has its up's and down's but it still going up.
    Crystal cell power up during the day data03.pdf
    All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident. - Arthur Schopenhauer

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    This is the multimeter with data logging that i use.
    TekPower TP4000ZC PC based RS232-Interaced Auto Ranging Digital Multimeter: Amazon.com: Industrial & Scientific

    If you use this to hook up to your computer you'll need a rs232 to usb converter if your computer has no rs232 port. It does a good job of data logging and its only $30.



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    Also here is some of my other videos about my cell going up in power while under load.

    I Put a Data Logger on a Crystal cell and Got some interesting results - YouTube

    Ran data logger again cell is getting stronger - YouTube

    Comparing Crystal cell to normal battery (Clean battery) - YouTube
    All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident. - Arthur Schopenhauer

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    • #3
      The crystal cell has been kept under load and it is showing some interesting results. The voltage does go up when given a load but it also will go down and then back up again. The cells seems to have some fluctuation to it. I know many people are thinking that its the humidity in the air that gives me the voltages i get. So what i did is i set up a data logger that logs temperature, humidity, and also dew point. The temp logger reported to show no real changes through out the day while the crystal cell does show some great changes through the day. I have included the picture below to show this. So we can not say that humidity is the reason why this cell work as the data proves it.

      Crystal cell temp humidity and voltage data logs 9 22 12.jpg
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      • #4
        Originally posted by ibpointless2 View Post
        The crystal cell has been kept under load and it is showing some interesting results. The voltage does go up when given a load but it also will go down and then back up again. The cells seems to have some fluctuation to it. I know many people are thinking that its the humidity in the air that gives me the voltages i get. So what i did is i set up a data logger that logs temperature, humidity, and also dew point. The temp logger reported to show no real changes through out the day while the crystal cell does show some great changes through the day. I have included the picture below to show this. So we can not say that humidity is the reason why this cell work as the data proves it.

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        It may have been hard to read that picture that i posted in the above post. So what did is give a link to a better copy. here it is. https://docs.google.com/drawings/d/1...2Li0FNlhE/edit
        All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident. - Arthur Schopenhauer

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        • #5
          The 2 foot crystal cell is still connected to its 100k ohm resistor and i once more have some more voltage data. here is the link. https://docs.google.com/drawings/d/1...NrmS3hJZ8/edit
          All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident. - Arthur Schopenhauer

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          • #6
            I have gathered all data from these past few days from the crystal cell and put them in one log so i could get "step backed" view of what is happening. The chart shows that the cell started off at 1.461 volts and then when a 100k ohm resistor was added the cell dropped down below 1 volt and then proceeded to climb back up in voltage to around 1.2 volts. The stepped back view shows that the cell is staying pretty much constant while under load for these few days. Even though each day gives its ups and it downs the cell still remains in a constant range. here is the link. https://docs.google.com/drawings/d/1...yAU8g7Ejs/edit
            All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident. - Arthur Schopenhauer

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            • #7
              what sort of amps are you seeing? have you tried to hook it to a useful load, like a discharged battery?

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              • #8
                I have been running this test for a little over 3 days now. The test consisted of me first connecting the 2 foot crystal cell to the data logger to see its standing voltage that it had acquired. I then connected the cell to a 100K ohm resistor and that dropped the voltage across the resistor down to around 900mV. The cell then started going up to around 1.2 volts and has held steady there for a couple days as you saw in my last post. No today at 11AM i removed the 100K resistor to see where the voltage will recover to. So far it has gone back over 1.4 volts. I have the data logger still attached and i will keep it attached until the cell gets to its standing voltage.

                This experiment has been quite interesting. This cell has done completely different than what a normal battery would do when give a load.
                This is what a normal battery does.......http://madscientisthut.com/wordpress...1/AA-100mA.png
                ---A normal battery gives a gradual decrease when given a load.

                What my cell has done....https://docs.google.com/drawings/d/1...yAU8g7Ejs/edit
                All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident. - Arthur Schopenhauer

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by velacreations View Post
                  what sort of amps are you seeing? have you tried to hook it to a useful load, like a discharged battery?
                  These cells are more or less test cells. To get power from these cells you must charge capacitors or super caps and then run you load off of the caps. As for the amps they can vary. I used a 100k ohm resistor that was hooked to the cell and i measured the voltage across the resistor. Using ohms law you can figure out the current. Example: the average voltage reading was around 1.25 volts and the resistor was 100,000 ohms. so 1.25/100000 = .0000125 Amps. Yes its not much but like i said these are test cells. I do have one cell powering a LCD clock......Update on 5 foot tall Dry Crystal cell - YouTube
                  All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident. - Arthur Schopenhauer

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                  • #10
                    here is a video I made yesterday about temperature and humidity vs the crystal cell's power. Crystal Cell Voltage vs. Air temp and Humidity - YouTube
                    All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident. - Arthur Schopenhauer

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                    • #11
                      This is the overall discharge of the 2foot crystal cell with a 100k ohm resistor as the load. The cell dropped down on the left when given the load and then it started to climb up in voltage across the resistor and then stay pretty much constant. When the load was removed the cell jumped back up and recovered back to its normal standing voltage.

                      here is the chart https://docs.google.com/drawings/d/1...Yqy7RUa8s/edit
                      All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident. - Arthur Schopenhauer

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                      • #12
                        Hi IB,

                        You should post your link to other other boards

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Allwest View Post
                          Hi IB,

                          You should post your link to other other boards
                          What do you mean? What other boards?
                          All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident. - Arthur Schopenhauer

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                          • #14
                            I data logged a AA battery so that i could have a comparison against my crystal cell. The AA was given a 470 ohm resistor and the meter was hooked across the resistor. Here is the picture https://docs.google.com/drawings/d/1...gihH0i8Q8/edit

                            Its very amazing see the two compared to each other.
                            All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident. - Arthur Schopenhauer

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