Mechanical Devices with Energy Gain

[Antonio90]

Hi.Steve

No..Iam working with device ,Iam Swedish now in Ukraine and will find out the technologie,

Antonio

[PhysicsProf]

Stealth:

" One thing I can tell you up front that I have found to be true in almost all my machines and devices is,"you have to convert one type of energy to another to gain efficiency". "

I agree. This is an important point and I find from my experiments (which seem so small to me) that this is accurate, and profound. I am working with Davey-bell systems plus I have added electrolysis to the water-heating. Thus electrical power (pulsed DC) is converted to heating water AND to electrolyzing water, so one form of energy to two others. I'm seeing some interesting effects.

Thank you for sharing some of your ideas. My hope is that new energy developments can be released to benefit many "friends". For example, my solar-cooker invention and free kits have been distributed freely to many throughout the world.

One example, I sent 204 of these solar-cooker kits to families in Haiti. I was very happy to fund much of this effort to see my little invention reach and benefit their lives.

[PhysicsProf]

Hi.Steve

No..Iam working with device ,Iam Swedish now in Ukraine and will find out the technologie,

Antonio

Thanks, Antonio. When you say, "I am working with device", are you referring to a Ucros device or a Ramos device, or something else?

[Antonio90]

Dr.Steve

Hi....


Iam referring to Ramos device, will send you news about my work soon, device is works with input 1 kw and output 10 kw and 1 kw to 18 kw for each design.
For 5-10 kw output, will use home design not much weight
Motor and generator will install to flywheels,
I will send more info soon, we are not company to sell device but everyone can have one for himself.

B.R

Antonio

[truesearch]

@Antonio:

Sounds like you have good results! I'm looking forward to the information that you have to share with us.

truesearch

[PhysicsProf]

UCROS ENERGIES OF THE NEW RENEWABLE ENERGY CYCLE ELECTRICAL - ENGLISH

I've been writing to Ucros this week. He does have a kit for an electric bike for $3,000 US.

This morning I wrote to Ucros stating that I was considering which type of kit to buy, and that may take a few weeks.

He promptly replied:

OK Mr Jones si de aqui a ese tiempo no e serrado negocio con un Empresario español que me esta haciendo una oferta de los derechos por 5 Millones de Euros y el los venderas y tendra los derechos si no me lo compra a mi se lo comprara a el saludos.

Google is not clear:
OK Mr Jones if not here at that time and sawing business with a Spanish businessman I are bidding rights for 5 million euro and the rights and shall sell any if I do not buy from me to buy it the greetings.

That sounds like he may be "selling out" for 5 million euros -- but can anyone help with the translation?

[Michael John Nunnerley]

UCROS ENERGIES OF THE NEW RENEWABLE ENERGY CYCLE ELECTRICAL - ENGLISH

I've been writing to Ucros this week. He does have a kit for an electric bike for $3,000 US.

This morning I wrote to Ucros stating that I was considering which type of kit to buy, and that may take a few weeks.

He promptly replied:



That sounds like he may be "selling out" for 5 million euros -- but can anyone help with the translation?

This is the translation, but his Spanish is worse than mine, so I have used a little poetic licence on the translation.




Here at the moment I am closing a deal with a Spanish business man who is offering me 5,000,000 euros for the exclusive rights, this is true.

Hmm, I would be careful on this, he has copied the Ramos system and admits it in some place I have seen, and Ramos I think is heavy into the Germans from what I have been told.

The whole system is a difficult one to patent, I for one have given information on the Ramos thread which would put it into a better working item and would not enfringe on any patent "now open source" by me and easy to make

best regards

Mike

[Michael John Nunnerley]

@PhysicsProf

I believe you have been doing things with molecular manipulation!! if you want to talk, skype me at centraflow, and we can talk.

Mike

[PhysicsProf]

This is the translation, but his Spanish is worse than mine, so I have used a little poetic licence on the translation.




Here at the moment I am closing a deal with a Spanish business man who is offering me 5,000,000 euros for the exclusive rights, this is true.

Hmm, I would be careful on this, he has copied the Ramos system and admits it in some place I have seen, and Ramos I think is heavy into the Germans from what I have been told.

The whole system is a difficult one to patent, I for one have given information on the Ramos thread which would put it into a better working item and would not enfringe on any patent "now open source" by me and easy to make

best regards

Mike

Thanks, Mike! Can you kindly summarize your ideas here?
very interesting developments.

[Michael John Nunnerley]

@PhysicsProf

By changing the connecting bar between the two cranks with a sealed piston with a gas "to be selected", the gas being at atmospheric pressure in the piston at TDC, you do two things.

1. you form a shock absorber which overcomes the vibration problem
2. you create in part of the cycle pressure in the piston and in the other part of the cycle a vacuum in the piston. This creates a change of state of the gas used, gas to liquid and liquid to gas.

The movement of the piston is minimal but balanced and you still obtain faster and slower movement of the secound crank in relation to the first, "which is how this obtains extra force as shown by Arto in his very explicit drawings and graphs. The difference here in this case is as I have stated, the vibration is mostly removed and you gain force by the change of state of the gas, aiding in the TDC sticking point which was being smoothed out by using flywheels and weight in the Ramos unit.

The flywheels should still be used, but the oscillating weight can be removed, the oscillation is now in the sealed piston between gas and liquid states. placing the piston in zero state, STP, in the cycle of the 360 degrees is important, but nothing more.

Regards

Mike

[Michael John Nunnerley]

P.S. this also can be applied to the Ucros unit between cranks and beam, but you would need two

Mike

[Michael John Nunnerley]

P.s.s.

Also the heavier the flywheels the better as you should see, energy storage, a very important factor in this and other similar designs.


Mike

[Michael John Nunnerley]

R gases

I havn't looked through the gas tables but one of the lower pressure "R" gases would be good I think, such as R22.

Mike

[Michael John Nunnerley]

Link to Arto's work on this

http://www.energeticforum.com/renewa...tml#post206708

[PhysicsProf]

Very helpful, Mike. Thank you for sharing these cogent ideas.

One more question at this time -- is there a resonance condition here, needed for FE operation?
If so, how is the "tuning" done to achieve resonance?


Steve