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Originally posted by GSM View PostOrdinary dress maker's pins will do exactly the same.
The steel is indeed becoming polarised, thus indicating just like a miniature field plotting compass. Thanks for the video.
An essential comprehension of magnetism relates to having an understandable visualisation - whether this be within a permanent magnet or any paramagnetic material - and where magnetism relates to the alignment of electron orbit axes within molecular domains. See attachment.
Here is a video in return.
Wesley Gary Neutral Zone - Video Dailymotion
The rod is a standard AM radio ferrite rod, and this illustrates the Wesley Gary 'neutral zone' about which fractional magnet movement (vibration) can induce a sudden field reversal through a ferric bar/ rod. There is a Barkhausen avalanche of electron spin-axis orbit (magnetic) reversal within the molecular domains along the bar.
Of course our Morpher tried this before me - though in Hendershot's arrangements it is the reflected energy from phase changes within his circuit arrangements which maintain his magnetic buzzer oscillation and output.
"Hendershot Fuelless Generator" - Wesley W. Gary's Neutral Zone - YouTube
Wesley Gary's self powered magnetic motor - from 135 years ago -
Gary Magnetic Motor
Wesley Gary's Magnetic Motor
Cheers .................... Graham.
Thank for the video link also!
Just an offbeat though that occurred to me a while ago, after trying the thin steel against the magnet face. Was the special condenser formed using a thin sheet with low retentively combined with the capacitor ‘plate’ in order to create a flow of ions, moved by the energising of the outer coils, thus temporally charging the capacitor in some respect?
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John
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Originally posted by Dave45 View Post
Except for your big blue concentric arrows this is all wrong, and it illustrates the effects upon our intuition caused by the half truths we are given to digest from within our formal education.
Those same half truths we are obliged to become brainwashed in for fear of not passing our exams and not getting a job !!!!!
Fear - fear - fear - never the freedom to think - the freedom to develop - the freedom to innovate - for the good of our future.
Any wonder humanity is DE-evolving right in front of our eyes !?
Magnetism should be imagined as an electron orbit spin-axis alignment. This as per the little illustration I added above and which you actually show.
Thus electron orbit spin alignment throughout the body of a permanent magnet is in the same direction throughout the length of material between its N and S pole ends.
There is no change of electron orbit spin-axis direction half way between N and S pole ends, it is consistently coherent throughout the body of the magnet, and we can tell which pole we are looking at by determing the rotation of spin at its pole faces, there being equal but opposite rotational directions (clockwise/ anticlockwise) apparent from an external pole-end viewpoint.
This is why there cannot be such a thing as a magnetic monople, because the direction of spin rotation is always in reverse when viewed from the other side of a magnet.
Another point I need to make is that whilst all of those field lines we are instructed to imagine and learn at school might get us a gold star, they really are a load of tosh.
(Wonder if that will get **** as did my sh** word when used within a normally acceptable colloquialism above. Language and words aught not be automatically censored out of context !!!!!)
Dave, this is why I wrote that all your open field line drawings are wrong - because there are NO field lines.
Same as there are NO field lines around a radio transmitting aerial.
Same as there is NO light in a light beam.
UNTIL
any of these are intercepted and indicated or transduced by other physical matter - ie. the electrons of atoms.
The field lines marked out around a magnet by a tracing compass simply cannot illustrate the real-life field linkages which develop when other matter is brought close to the magnet.
When a paramagnetic material, or conducting wire is brought close to a magnet an alignment of molecular electron spin-orbit axes occurs within both of the latter which alters field strengths in a 3-D manner, and this in a way that prior simplistic field strength compass plots cannot show.
Think of a pair of parallel conductors - they attract when they both pass current in the same direction.
Think of two electron spin orbits - they too will attract their related molecular bases when coincidentally aligned - hence magnetostriction !
This is of course why unlike poles attract - because their electron spin orbit axes are is like SAME direction.
As Ed Leedskalnin said - electrons-protons are as like little magnets - hence his writings about magnetic current.
Going beyond this just a little, it is the electron spin AXES we need to think of as becoming aligned, and not just the spin direction, for this is why magnet pole faces crash together with optimum field alignment of physical domains and not with sideways offsets.
Hence either a permanent magnet or a field coil is capable of aligning the molecular domain electron spin axes of previously neutral magnetic and paramagnetic materials.
Back later, the Sun is out and I've jobs to do.
Cheers ................. Graham.Last edited by GSM; 09-14-2013, 09:06 AM.
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Hi Qwestry,
If that video is the one having plans which show basketweave coils without cores and big orange-red 1,000uF electrolytics, then yes it is a hoax, for it was 40/80uF capacitors which induced magnetic field spin waves within the 'tin can' cores and thus energy release.
I forgot to write that, but when I went to add this, plus correct two minor grammar errors in the above post, I found that the forum software would not allow me !?
Cheers ................ Graham.Last edited by GSM; 09-14-2013, 08:34 AM.
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Originally posted by Qwestry View Postjimboot: I assume you're referring to this site in particular:
The Hendershot Generator
As it happens, I registered just to ask you guys about that. I confess to knowing nothing about these issues and my impression is that it is a hoax; when something seems too good to be true, it usually is.
It is a hoax, right?
Thanks.
So be careful whose 'truth's you BELIEVE, and figure out why you were told them !
Good video, and first time I have seen it; however -
Hendershot did not receive his $25k just before he died, he received it after he became 'injured', supposedly by electric ??shock??. More like a hypodermic!
I have often wondered about the Truth as to why Lindeberg's son was 'kidnapped'.
So many liars about !
Heck we are ALL about to need Hendershot generators more than ever when this **** hits the fan and takes our economies right back to the decade when Lester developed his motor invention -
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Cheers .............. Graham.
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Originally posted by john_g View PostHi All
I was given a sample of some very thin electrical silicon steel to play with. What's interesting is that a small piece offered to a pole will get repelled.
Quick video at:
thin silicon steel horseshoe magnet - YouTube
Regards
John
The steel is indeed becoming polarised, thus indicating just like a miniature field plotting compass. Thanks for the video.
An essential comprehension of magnetism relates to having an understandable visualisation - whether this be within a permanent magnet or any paramagnetic material - and where magnetism relates to the alignment of electron orbit axes within molecular domains. See attachment.
Here is a video in return.
Wesley Gary Neutral Zone - Video Dailymotion
The rod is a standard AM radio ferrite rod, and this illustrates the Wesley Gary 'neutral zone' about which fractional magnet movement (vibration) can induce a sudden field reversal through a ferric bar/ rod. There is a Barkhausen avalanche of electron spin-axis orbit (magnetic) reversal within the molecular domains along the bar.
Of course our Morpher tried this before me - though in Hendershot's arrangements it is the reflected energy from phase changes within his circuit arrangements which maintain his magnetic buzzer oscillation and output.
"Hendershot Fuelless Generator" - Wesley W. Gary's Neutral Zone - YouTube
Wesley Gary's self powered magnetic motor - from 135 years ago -
Gary Magnetic Motor
Wesley Gary's Magnetic Motor
Cheers .................... Graham.Attached FilesLast edited by GSM; 09-13-2013, 08:20 PM.
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Originally posted by Duncan View PostHi Schrofar I really just dropped by this thread to drop a link "for consideration" but I also read your post ... this fun little project might help you to understand quite a lot,
Simple DIY Induction Heater - RMCybernetics
as for hendershot this for consideration
Hendershot Generator - Free Energy tutorial - YouTube
T1000 thinks is BS I dont know either way
Yes Duncan, RMCybernetics is a useful source of specialist DIY parts, especially their controllable Power Pulse Modulator, which with PSU and a transformer might even manage to replace the Mk3 magnet/ buzzer assembly.
Cheers ...........Graham.
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Originally posted by morpher44 View PostHi Gentlemen (and Ladies),
12. Don't be afraid to use modern circuit design techniques, SPICE, modeling, etc. Don't be afraid to use "other" parts, other frequencies, other approaches. If the principal Hendershot was exploiting is there, it should be doable many different ways. A Joule thief oscillator is a perfectly good "chopper" circuit for make-break. Using relays, solenoids, magnets, etc. is a bit old school.
Thanks for reading.
-morpher44
The energy generated by a Hendershot Mk3 comes from atomic nucleii within the construction, and is not a linear nor computable circuit function.
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Originally posted by boguslaw View Post
Not available - wonder why ?
Was it meaningful ?
Cheers .............. Graham.
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Originally posted by mikec_ut View PostI have been studying Induction Compasses lately to see how much power is used and have found that all of them must boost the earth 50uT to get any useful signal out of them. For our understanding on Hendershots devices we don't have external power, tubes or transistors, no capacitors, etc. I believe we can agree that the process starts with the earths magnet field and goes from there. With the experiments on the honey comb coil and its micro-Tesla oscillations there must be a way to boost the signal using magnetic amplification. So your thoughts on the coil L8 and the internal coils L6 or L30 and the external coils L13 and L14 and L4, Collector/Antenna, hanging strip is the starting point to this device. We just need to get an understanding and then use modern parts and methods to make it work. But i f the old methods are better I am in favor of lost technology and methods.
Magnetic amplifiers have no moving parts and nothing to wear out, unlike our modern technology. I am a complete newbie to that forgotten amplification method. Whatever the combination of mutual inductance, resonance, etc. that is taking place must be experimented with.
IMHO: The magnetic strip that hangs down is like the horse shoe magnet and buzzer coils on the MKIII device. It is the only moving part (besides the motor) in the device it has a key roll to play!
The adventure continues.
Hi Mike.
Hmmm ! Now why on earth did this not come to mind for me ?
I was taught about and worked with magnetic amplifiers 45 years ago.
However that was a time when I was already well hands-on into transistor as well as tube circuits, so whilst I found their magnetic power amplifying capabilities to be most impressive, even way back then I judged them to be 'old hat'. Besides, they were extremely heavy and costly.
They were commonly operated from ships gun control rooms deep within warships in order to accurately aim the truly massive above-deck gun turrets.
Now I must get my thinking cap on in this regard, however, I am not aware of any way in which they could operate with over unity, or as a free standing generator in the same way that Hendershot did achieve and demonstrated with his very lightweight Mk3 using no more than everyday obtainable materials.
Cheers ............ Graham.Last edited by GSM; 09-13-2013, 05:17 PM.
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Hello everybody.
I've recently had so many real-life family and home related responsibilities that I just had to drop out. This is my first 2013 read and catch-up visit, and so yet again I'm trying to get the hang of this forum contribution window. Anyway, here goes - with the first of many posts to come.
Hi Morpher
From your February 2013 posts.
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So my thinking of late is that we need to just experiment
with the magnet-in-coil, and the honeycomb and see what
sort of energy input will stimulate that structure.
If the magnet-in-coil is the so called "tuner", I have to imagine
this is NOT radio we are tuning, but magnetic wave reception.
The Earth's field is 50uT or so, yes, but the oscillations occuring
are down in the nano-Tesla range. YET, there is a BIG effect
from the 50uT that should be considered. All the incoming energy
to the planet, be they electrons or protons, will SPIN due to this
50uT influence. The frequency of this spin, if electrons, works out
to be 1400Khz. You can pick up this signal on radio as NOISE.
But, you can also pick up this signal "magnetically" with a
loop-of-wire style antenna. The advantage to the "magnetic"
reception is that the signal is probably MORE current ... more gain.
So instead of a quarter-wave radio antenna == dipole ==
that is really long for 1400Khz, you need instead a loop of wire
that can be designed to pick it up. If that coil was an air coil,
the LOOP would still be HUGE. But, if you could CHEAT a bit
and receive that frequency from a "sympathetic" magnetic
object, then the "gain" might be there for a bit of power reception.
Let us suppose, therefore, that we want to tune our honeycomb
coil(s) for 1400Khz -- in terms of there self-resonance.
I don't have the formulas for this style coil. Some searching
around for that would be in order.
If it was a solenoid-style coil, with say 100pF of self-capacitance,
you would need a coil of about 129.24uH or so.
On a 3inch diameter structure, with say 1 inch width of winding area,
you would need ONLY 24 turns to get an inductance about that
big. For honeycomb, you would probably need MORE turns because
honeycomb does use MORE wire, zigging up, and then down again...
but you get the idea... about this much wire. Not much.
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I know that you are referring to the Mk1 design with activated field within the honeycombe type coil, so please forgive me by shifting my comments more towards the Mk3 electrical generator, for this has always seemed the better challenge for me.
The 'Q' of an air core coil is quite limited by the nature of the coil wire itself.
Yet even a crudely made Ferrite Sleeve Loop 'Q' can exceed 1,000 and the transduction induced mutual magnetic RF field surrounding one can be phenomenal.
July 2013 Rockwork 4 (Oregon Cliff) DU-DXpedition - YouTube
Note what Gary says here - it can peak a single channel.
Actually, my experience is that a ferrite sleeve construction can peak tune AM *voice frequencies only* on either sideband of a MW carrier, or just a single channel to beyond the 49 metre band.
Morpher, it is interesting you wrote about the electrons and 1400kHz, so it is a pity I was away and not even visiting this thread. However, whilst it fell upon me big-time to re-establish family foundations with building improvements etc., my thoughts always drifted towards the Mk3 Hendershot, plus Hubbard, Mace-Meyer, Paul Brown, Kapanadze, and more recently Wesley's Colman replication and Akula translations, for their devices all run in the same way, as likely did Tesla's 'box' powered Pierce Arrow car, and was similar with TH Moray's.
Three years back when bandscanning with an 8" FSL antenna I was unable to tune a known distant daytimer on 1390kHz. The signal meter was pinned for about 30kHz either side of 1390-1400kHz due to a reception blocking band of unmodulated and carrierless noise.
I thought WTF because I had never before witnessed such a positive demonstration of this effect, it being so powerful that had it been manmade there would have been an outcry by the authorities.
It was however, most abnormal, and such electron excitation levels could never be relied upon to initiate coil resonance, even though they can become so charged as to occasionally reach weather affecting levels, as indeed they have been recently.
Look at that FSL antenna and think about the Mk3 Hendershot coil, where his tin can or steel sleeve had also been of ferrous based material.
The alternating 'magnetic' field is within the matter of the sleeve, and capable of end-on and side-adjacent inductive coupling, but not within a core placed within that ferrite or thin steel sleeve core unless it too is co-incidentally tuned ! Hence Hendershot could put his field phasing transformers within his ferrous sleeves without interfering with device operation !
Back soon after I have read through everybody's more recent posts.
Cheers .............. Graham.Last edited by GSM; 09-13-2013, 11:28 AM.
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I did not see any references to this video in this tread (please forgive me if I missed it). While this is most likely not for real, I thought that perhaps it would be of interest to anyone wanting to replicate Hendershot Generator. It is a step by step build of a generator able to power more than a dozen light bulbs.
Hendershot Generator - Free Energy tutorial - YouTubeLast edited by xee2; 07-20-2013, 07:01 PM.
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Thin Silicon Steel in pole field
Hi All
I was given a sample of some very thin electrical silicon steel to play with. What's interesting is that a small piece offered to a pole will get repelled.
Quick video at:
thin silicon steel horseshoe magnet - YouTube
Regards
John
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Originally posted by schrofor View PostI am a newbie, not extremely well educated in the science field but I find this very interesting to read, as I too am interested in free energy, I live in Canada, Ontario. A whole group of people who are interested in science for the people is great and what the real challenge will be is when you figure this all out will your country allow you to market something, that will bring down all the energy monopolies that are already in place and will most likely loose billions of dollars for the sake of the people and the environment? More than likely this is why inventions like Mr. Hendershot's was never realized. I was shopping for an oven the other day since my broke down quite the hydro sucker, came across ovens where they have induction burners, I was told that it ran with magnetic fields and that if you don't have true iron pots and pans it will not work. I was mesmerized by this but have no idea if it works, they say its supposed to reduce the amount of energy and cook far quicker then previous burner versions. If anyone can explain this that would be great.
Simple DIY Induction Heater - RMCybernetics
as for hendershot this for consideration
Hendershot Generator - Free Energy tutorial - YouTube
T1000 thinks is BS I dont know either way
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I am a newbie, not extremely well educated in the science field but I find this very interesting to read, as I too am interested in free energy, I live in Canada, Ontario. A whole group of people who are interested in science for the people is great and what the real challenge will be is when you figure this all out will your country allow you to market something, that will bring down all the energy monopolies that are already in place and will most likely loose billions of dollars for the sake of the people and the environment? More than likely this is why inventions like Mr. Hendershot's was never realized. I was shopping for an oven the other day since my broke down quite the hydro sucker, came across ovens where they have induction burners, I was told that it ran with magnetic fields and that if you don't have true iron pots and pans it will not work. I was mesmerized by this but have no idea if it works, they say its supposed to reduce the amount of energy and cook far quicker then previous burner versions. If anyone can explain this that would be great.
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