Hendershot Parts
I'm about to begin my project to build the Hendershot Generator. I have a few simple questions for the forum.
#1 Do I need the Elko's TM-58 Pyramid capacitors to build the .0078 mfd capacitor from it's internal foils? If so what substitute materials can i use? Better still, where can I buy the capacitors for this part of my build?
#2 Where can i get the Vertically oscillating transformers from a vintage TV or can i use a modern equally rated transformer?
#3 What would be the best "trigger" to get the 60 hz oscillations in the metal bar at startup?
If there is any other info you can give to aid my search for the best materials please respond. Vincent
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piezoelectricos
Originally posted by roby_035 View PostHola Morpher44
Soy nuevo
No soy electronico pero si enginer mecanics
Pregunto se podria poner en el sumbador de Hendershot 2 cristales piezoelectricos de manera de generar el impulso de las bobinas basket?
Como habria que conectarlos en el circuito?
Es posible intentarlo?
Gracias
Acerca de cristales piezoelctricos, Hendershot pudo haber utilizado algn tipo de material de carbono en la cera entre sus bobinas y el cilindro. Hay cierta especulacin en este sentido en el que he ledo. Puede que no sea el efecto piezoelctrico. Puede ser de efecto triboelctrico. Ms experimentos son necesarios.
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Hendershot coil
Originally posted by morpher44 View PostHi Gentlemen (and Ladies),
I found this thread tonight and was compelled to pass along some thoughts.
I haven't worked on the Hendershot stuff for a while, but lately the chatter on youtube has been picking up due to the HOAX that is being sold. For shame!!!
The investigation of this thing should continue, however, because I think this was a valid invention, with many witnesses to its operation, a paper trail, etc.
I do agree with the conclusions of others that it is very unlikely that Lester used radio active materials. I don't think Hubbard did either, but that is another story.
I was thinking along the lines of studying each component, and subsets of the schematic, and powering it with oscillators or other "chopper" circuits based on relays, etc.
My background is computer science, but electronics is a hobby. Many years back I earned a Technican Ham radio license, so I have a basic understanding of radio. My knowledge is a but rusty, however.
Here are some conclusions I have come to, which may or may not be correct, but I try.
1. The solenoid, bar, magnet thing are going to oscillate at mechanical speeds in the range of 20Hz upwards to 100Hz. Its very difficult to get something mechanical like this to oscillate faster. I did find, while messing around with a doorbell, that you can get one into a state were you just have high-speed arcing, and very little mechnical movement that you can see. Thus, a "tuned" circuit would need to be working in this low frequencies. If there are other harmonics involved, that would be over near the coil-tank circuit area.
2. I have found that with the clapper attached to the horseshoe magnet, the field BENDS outward to the LEFT and RIGHT of the magnet. The field presented toward the solenoid is WEAKENED, and thus the solenoid is able to wiggle it all the easier as it gets closer. Interesting that the LEFT and RIGHT fields can be made to intersect with the two coils, if you bring them within range. Mark Hendershot's picker and replication shows the coils way far away from the solenoid. I think this is WRONG and possibly disinfo. My feeling is that you want the magnet to provide a FREE established field that you can easily wiggle and generate power in the coils w/o inertia. I.e., don't spin the coil, like was done in the induction compass, wiggle a field near the coils instead.
3. L. Hendershot was trying to improve the so called induction compass. You can find many patents on the Induction Compass doing a goggle patent search. Keeping things simple-stupid, I had the idea that Hendershot may have realized that instead of spinning coils in the Earth's field to generate power (well known for the Induction Compass), he could instead wiggle a field near stationary coils and generate power. Relativity indeed.
4. Why did Hendershot go to the trouble of making these hand-wound capacitors. He opened up a good, expensive cap, dumped out its oil, and made this funky hand-wound thing. It was suppose to be 7.8nF (an unusual value not easily purchased off-the-shelf). Clearly he needed this value to "tune" for resonance. Further, he used clamps to pinch it for another way to "tune", since it would be unlikely to create exactly that value or have the coils be exactly the inductances he was shooting for. He needed a way to make adjustments.
5. The cylinder was originally a coffee can in his earlier design. That would be TIN and ferromagnetic. Some aluminums are ferrormagnetic. Some are not. One clue in the Aho picture are the letters "Fe" which might stand for Iron and imply "Ferromagnetic" cylinders. Add that into the coil and you completely change the inductance value (but only when currents are large enough). You further have the funky Histerisis, transformer considerations. The open cylinder, and its dimensions may be an Antenna, specifically for waves in the Mhz range. The Sun provides a large signal in the range of 4 to 6Mhz. This signal might "charge up" the capacitor as the tank circuit self-oscillates from the incoming signal. Circuits that tune for these frequencies can easily be made to self oscillate due to the energy at these frequencies. Tank circuits self-oscillate. Capacitors self charge. Was this exploited to provide some energy input?
6. There are various "metals" here. Do we have galvanic battery effects? Copper wires, Tin, Aluminum, capacitor foil, and possibly other wire types.
7. Did Hendershot Hoax this in any way? Hidden batteries? Doped capacitor (with "hot" material inside). Or did he push his device up against a lab wall and inductively couple with his house main (intentionally for the hoax or by accident thinking his device only worked in certain physical locations in the lab)? I have found that by having CFLs in my room, these are enough to excite coils in the room. Turn them all off, the coils go quite. Certainly test equipment such as oscilloscopes also provide INPUT into your coils under test.
8. A true test would bring the thing way out in a field away from all high tension wires, etc, and away from lab equipment. A faraday cage is also a good test since it might prove that there is some Hertzian wave dependency.
9. The clapper on the horseshoe magnet has a very interesting effect on nearby compasses. I can make a compass on the left or right of the magnet SPIN by pulsing the solenoid. Remove the clapper, and you can't make the compass spin. Hence, you can create a spinning field momentarily in this way. This is no unlike taking a DOOR and suddenly pulling it open quickly. There is a vortex WAKE on the edge of the door that can make lint and hair and other light weight material SPIN. Did Hendershot use the magnet-solenoid, therefore to SPIN fields directly into his two coils? This idea is worth investigating.
10. If you read up on Magnetic Amplifiers, you learn that these were all the RAVE during WWII. Designing them now is a lost art. Such circuits were hardened, had no stupid TUBES that kept burning out, and predated transistor designs. Someone of Hendershot's age could be very familiar with circuit design using coils and only coils.
11. Hendershot lived during a time where making your own radio was a right of passage (and economical). There were magazines and books he would have access to and it is clear to me that he was self taught and developed some very interesting techniques for how to wrap coils. Basketweave coils were state-of-the-art for him. Radio hobbies were trying out all sorts of coil designs and little antenna designs. Hendershots various coils look like they have the so called "tickler coil" that Armstrong used for his heterodyne radio circuit.
12. Don't be afraid to use modern circuit design techniques, SPICE, modeling, etc. Don't be afraid to use "other" parts, other frequencies, other approaches. If the principal Hendershot was exploiting is there, it should be doable many different ways. A Joule thief oscillator is a perfectly good "chopper" circuit for make-break. Using relays, solenoids, magnets, etc. is a bit old school.
13. We need a theory for where the power comes from. We cannot violate any laws of thermodynamics here. We cannot be receiving power from another dimension. It is either received power from the radio spectrum OR it is power from the Earth's magnetic dynamo and eddy currents OR it is galvanic, etc. We do know from the myth that it took a little time to "charge up", which would be the case with big capacitors. You can actually calculate the Joules (or voltage) in relative to time. If it took "minutes" for Hendershot to get it going, the power is flowing in at a modest rate. If you are greedy with your Load, you drain down the capacitors and the system stops -- or so would be the prediction. So the Load would need to be modest as well. One 60Watt bulb is NOT a modest load. However, we don't know the duty cycle the light was being pulsed at.... Not w/o a scope. The eye can't see rapid pulsing of an incandescent bulb.
14. Let us not confuse the Fuelless Generator with Hendershot's Fuelless Motor. The latter being first implemented in a little toy plane for his son. It is not clear if this thing used the same principals as the Fuelless Generator. Certainly Hendershot was inventive and he may have figured out various ways to do the "same" basic harnessing of this power.
Best way to communicate with me is via youtube -- user "morpher44".
I check that periodically.
Thanks for reading.
-morpher44
Soy nuevo
No soy electronico pero si enginer mecanics
Pregunto se podria poner en el sumbador de Hendershot 2 cristales piezoelectricos de manera de generar el impulso de las bobinas basket?
Como habria que conectarlos en el circuito?
Es posible intentarlo?
Gracias
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free books
Originally posted by jbird82158 View PostIs there any one out there that has a decent sized readable schematic of these designs or information on where I can find them? I'd like to try this thing out but have no real starting point.
1st page. There I have included links to the FREE books -- found
on scribd.com
http://www.energeticforum.com/renewa...lications.html
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Henderson schematics.
Is there any one out there that has a decent sized readable schematic of these designs or information on where I can find them? I'd like to try this thing out but have no real starting point.
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Free Energy key to freedom
Hi i'm new to the whole Free energy effort & find it all amazing & logical. I know exactly why this technology is suppressed, it's people like yourselves that can help free humanity from this type of slavery I take my hat of to you people. I wish I could do what you do :-)
The more people know about this & get to use it the closer we will get to freedom.
Blessing to you all.
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Free is much better but I didn't find any free ones yet. Of course, I don't expect it to be easy to build or even work for that matter. Just a project for a school science club so don't really matter much.
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not so fast
Originally posted by FreeHeatWanted View PostLMAO; can't you just buy the Hendershot Generator plans?
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Which is better?
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LMAO; can't you just buy the Hendershot Generator plans?
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Thanks and a good idea
Thanks for the equation I was wondering how to find that frequency. I have looked up the magnetic field at my location many times and at my location it is 1456kHz +/-.
Your other thoughts as inline with mine. I have been thinking about Induction Compasses, Flux Gates, Magnetometers, etc. I wanted to understand at the time when Hendershot was building his devices his knowledge was based on some of these as well as other older technology.
I think we are coming around to the same conclusion that baby steps on trying to prove each part is better that trying to do the whole thing. I started with the whole thing knowing that it would fail. After studying the schematic and rewriting it many times and studying some of the above I broke down the sections to different operations. My thoughts were along the same lines as what you wrote, good thinking.
I have attached a picture of one of the many versions of flux gates available. This one or one like it resemble the pictures I posted of the build I made. It consists of coil L13, L14 inside of L8. You notice that the AC signal is similar to coil L4 attached to L13, L14 and resistor L17 (resistor not in flux gate picture), and the sense coil L8 is surrounding those coils and has an Amp meter attached. The reason I did it this way was from the statement "Placed in the structure made. This coil is parallel to coil L8.". Going through Hilton's book a statement made like this from the patent information was given. I took all of the little snippets of information for each part of the MK1 device and put them together. For coil L13 and L14 the curious statement of "Placed in the structure made." and the flux gate schematic of the 30's and the inability to see inside the toy plane lead me to try this method.
I do think that if we break down each segment of the MK1 device and see if it can be experimented with individually we might find some common ground to construct a useful device. From your comments I think the light is breaking on both of us but it is hard to express just what to do but the sense of what might make it work is coming clear.
Hendershot was a genius and not a hoax. He understood exactly what he was building. In my heart he sold his non-patented information for the mysterious $25K and allowed the same period of time as a patent to lapse before starting on his next version the MKIII. I want to replicate the MK1 version 1 because I think it will give us all the technology necessary to build and understand his other devices. After this build the big MKIII will be easy to understand and build.
I think you are right about the magnetometer, but I think this concept is what starts the unit as you described in your post. I think the coils L19, L22, L25 in combination (don't understand yet) with L8 is some kind of magnetic amplifier.
A new thought just came to me, maybe I am think backwards. By looking at the coils and the patent numbering process and the statements therein maybe I got it all wrong. You mentioned that the honey comb coil in combination with the collector and L2 hanging thing is hitting the core of L4 (That is how I built my model) is some how oscillating and neutralizing the permeate magnet being used with L6 and then the process continues. What if the magnetometer concept starts the operation gives some energy to L8 it is then feed into L25, L22, L19 amplified some how, which are in series and that energies L4. L4 core sucks in L2. I was thinking that the start process started with L13, L14 and L4 and then went to L19 then L22, L25 and back to L8. I might have it totally backwards and it goes in the opposite direction. I am going to do some new thinking.
The adventure continues.Attached Files
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to derive your Earth's NMR frequency
Oops! I forgot to put the equation you need to
derive the Earth's NMR frequency from the Earth's field.
If Earth's field is X Teslas.
Frequency = X * 28E9
e.g. if X is 50uT, then
50E-6 * 28E9 = 1400 khz
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not mag-amp, necessarily, but magnetometer - YES!
I wanted to pass along some more thoughts I was having this weekend.
First ... the 1400khz I mentioned was just an example.
What I was actually imagining is the signal from the Earth's NMR,
which will vary around the globe and depend upon your location.
To find YOUR frequency, go here:
Magnetic Declination, Models, Data and Services | ngdc.noaa.gov
and click on "Magnetic Field" calculator and enter your
GPS coordinates, or zipcode.
In my location, this frequency would be approx 1355khz.
I also looked up Pittsburg, PA, which would be close the
Hendershot's location and got around 1483Khz.
This is what it would be this past weekend. Back when
Hendershot was demonstrating his plane, that value would
have been different since values change here.
I have several coils in my house -- some loop style, some
cylinders, etc. They all appear to get a nice strong signal
at around this 1355khz value +/- 100khz.
Now this could be a nearby radio station. But I'm starting
to think NOT, because I get this signal nicely at nite
too, and the nearby station @ this frequency turns off
during the nite. Not being an expert in this area, I would
assume that this is still a good frequency to tune for
since there MUST be a signal from the Earth's NMR.
So now the next problem. How do make a coil that exactly
"tunes" for this frequency. The coil will have self-capacitance,
but we don't know what that will be.
I ran some calculations and saw that if self-capacitance was 10pf
(probably impossible to get in reality), you would need 1.378mH.
For 30pf, 459.632uH. For 60pf, 229.816uH. For 90pf, 153.2107uH...
For 100pf, 137.89uH... and so on.
The value from 100pf to 60pf might be doable. Certainly
a honey comb or basket weave will minimize self capacitance,
the trick here would be to build several coils and attempt
to measure there self resonance... shooting for 1355khz.
Using the formula for inductance, I see that on a 2 7/8"
cylinder, this would be somewhere between 24 to 31 turns.
More turns probably because honey comb requires more turns,
and is zig-zagging around the cylinder. But, it is interesting
that the number of turns is pretty small here.
If you could make a coil that hit this frequency, then the
most power from the oscillation would be received.
This will still be a small amount of power. Let say its 100mV p-p.
This 100mV run thru another solenoid that is say 3ohms,
could produce a current of 33.333 mA p-p. Not bad.
If you had quite a few turns on that solenoid, the magnetic
field from that solenoid could possible wiggle the field of a magnet.
Once you have the field of a magnet wiggling, that
possibly can positive-feed-back into your receiver.
I also read that a simple LOOP antenna is great for magnetic
reception of the FAR field, and also great at NOT picking up
"human noise" in the NEAR field. Yet part of Hendershot's
device may want to do the opposite ... i.e. to pick up
all the noise in the NEAR field -- and use it.
So one you want a magnetic LOOP coil-antenna that is
NOT just a loop of wires.
Next we have the magnetometer idea.
It occurs to me that you can do the following.
The two-solenoid approach will have opposite wound coils
next to each other, one to produce North while the other produces
South -- with fields canceling. In the presence of a magnetic
field, one of these two solenoids will have slightly MORE
flux and one slightly LESS, depending upon orientation.
This will induce a voltage on a pickup coil around these,
as the solenoids are pulsed with low-frequency sign-waves,
square waves, or DC pulses.
While walking the dog, it occurred that you can mix this up
and do this instead. If the two solenoids were to be wired
to produce NORTH poles on both poles, south on the back two,
then as a horseshoe magnet approach, again you induce
voltage because one solenoid has flux ADDED, and the other
has flux SUBTRACTED. OR, if you had a BAR magnet,
you could go back to the two-solenoid-poles opposite configuration
and move the one pole of the BAR magnet to only ONE
solenoid, leaving the other solenoid alone with respect to FLUX
modifications.
There is absolutely POWER from the magnetometer, but like
the induction compass, not much power. You possibly can
pulse with a 25% duty cycle, and get on the pickup coil
a 50% duty cycle, 25% being your input energy, and 25% being
a echo-pulse given via the magnetic field. The magnetometer
coils would need to be many many turns around solenoids of
a larger cross-sectional area, good ferromagnetic material,
and a magnet to match.
So could the little STRIP hanging down thing be
"rocking" towards the ring-magnet-with-coil, and then
away from it? Could it be touching the solenoid
above the magnet, discharging onto that metal surface
as a van de Graff generator would brush charges onto ONE
surface that is the inside of a capacitor, leaving the outside
to be at the ambient charge -- producing a voltage differential?
So with the above, we have this theory of operation:
1) small initial input energy received from local Earth's NMR frequency:
in the range 1350 to 1450 khz, depending upon your location on the
planet.
2) magnet wired with coil, attached to this honeycomb coil tuned
to the Earth's NMR frequency, so as to cause movement in the field
of the magnet -- affecting a nearby STRIP.
3). Strip is metalic and attached to a PLATE surface that is carying
charges. Strip, when set to move back and forth, can come
within proximity of solenoid metalic core and brush charges
on to its metal.
4) Charges entering metal, will activate all coils attached to that metal
structure, inducing high voltage spikes in them. These are wired,
to two solenoids, and a blocking resistor. The energy cannot travel
beyond the solenoids, so it expresses itself "magnetically" on
either side of the honeycomb coil. That coil picks up the energy
again because the two solenoids on either side are actually are
LARGER signal than the Earth's NMR frequency.
5) Magnet has more intense reaction, strip vibrates more chaotically,
more charges are collected by plate, up to some equilibrium balance
point .. depending upon the load on the other coils on the metalic
structure.
This sounds possible, although very difficult to build.
I think we might be able to prove some aspects of this if we
break this up into subsystems.
I.e.
A) prove this magnetometer approach can generate some
measurable amount of current..
B) Determine if its possible to move a strip using a ring magnet
and that small amount of current...
C) Determine if its possible to impart charges on that strip and
collect them like a van de Graff generator
I was looking at magnetometer patents, and the original invention
was exactly the YEAR Hendershot made his plane. Coincidence?
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Magnetic amplification...
I have been studying Induction Compasses lately to see how much power is used and have found that all of them must boost the earth 50uT to get any useful signal out of them. For our understanding on Hendershots devices we don't have external power, tubes or transistors, no capacitors, etc. I believe we can agree that the process starts with the earths magnet field and goes from there. With the experiments on the honey comb coil and its micro-Tesla oscillations there must be a way to boost the signal using magnetic amplification. So your thoughts on the coil L8 and the internal coils L6 or L30 and the external coils L13 and L14 and L4, Collector/Antenna, hanging strip is the starting point to this device. We just need to get an understanding and then use modern parts and methods to make it work. But i f the old methods are better I am in favor of lost technology and methods.
Magnetic amplifiers have no moving parts and nothing to wear out, unlike our modern technology. I am a complete newbie to that forgotten amplification method. Whatever the combination of mutual inductance, resonance, etc. that is taking place must be experimented with.
IMHO: The magnetic strip that hangs down is like the horse shoe magnet and buzzer coils on the MKIII device. It is the only moving part (besides the motor) in the device it has a key roll to play!
The adventure continues.
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