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  • hywystr
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    Barry Hilton book

    Hello Morpher I unhooked the L-1 coil and hooked it together as you mentioned hoping to set up a mutual inductance field in L-2 or even L-3. I have a device I discovered in trying to receive current in a Tesla type energy receiver. This is the same device I was able to receive 30 volts DC and a tenth of an amp with from an aluminum collector 30 feet in the air. The device contains 4- germanium diodes (IN 34) and two electrolytic capacitors 100 uF 50 v and 2- 0.2 uF 50 v ceramic capacitors. When hooked up to the outputs of the complete Hendershot device I did not find AC or DC voltage present. I reasoned that it might be possible to hook the L-1 coil wires into the device and check for an output. I did not find any voltage present. The next thing I tried was to hook the L-3 coil into my device and wait two hours to see if there would be a charge in the capacitors. Sorry to say that I could not read an AC or DC voltage. I did line the Basket weave coils with a very thin aluminum cylinder hoping to receive some voltage. Obviously the device cannot work if it cannot receive any power from the magnetic field of the earth. I toyed with the idea of using an 8 inch cylinder and weaving number 12 solid core coated wire and doubling or tripling the amount of windings in hopes of collecting more energy. You had mentioned the number of turns Hendershot used and the wire gage may be critical in tuning the device. Any thoughts on this? Bob

    I was searching for information on Barry Hilton's book you mentioned but google came up with a bunch of Hiltons notably a comedian but nothing like I am looking for. Do you have a lead I can use to find it?

    Originally posted by hywystr View Post
    Thank you Morpher for your reply. I have been working in the field for 26 years repairing hot tubs and swimming pools. I have gotten into circuit board diagnostics and replacing the parts. I have a book on electronics but am not familiar with some of your terms. Thank you for the clues you have given me below. What does the uH stand for? I do not follow Q either. I am painfully aware the tank circuit I made does not oscillate. You did not mention anything about the metal lining on the basket weave coils? As far as duplicating exactly what Lester did I am more interested in building something that I can use. I do appreciate your suggestions and will investigate if they help? I trust you were able to look over the post I did of the drawing to show what I have built, sitting in my dining room. Where can I find the directions you mention to hand make the caps Lester made? I would think that all the people interested in this, on this site, should be able to work together and build something that works. A lot of time is wasted if we are duplicating our efforts. As far as a "hobby" goes, I am serious about building a device I can hook my house up to. Bob

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  • morpher44
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    similar to cold fusion...

    Originally posted by Peter Lindemann View Post
    Dear Qwestry,

    Someone else just asked me this question in a private email. Here is what I told him.

    Yes, this is a scam. Back when Hendershot was building working models, one of the people who knew him was Ed Skilling. I met Ed back in the early 1980's due to my connections with Borderland Sciences Research Foundation. Ed told me he saw a number of machines that Lester built operating. When he asked for the plans, Lester gave him detailed instructions. Ed was a very talented and skilled electronics engineer. He built the model exactly to Lester's specifications but was not able to start the unit. One day, Lester came over to Ed's house and Ed showed him the model he built. It took Lester less than a minute to start the model that Ed built. It ran itself and lit a light bulb. When Lester left, the machine continued to run. It ran for days without any problem. Then, Ed turned it off..... and never got it running again.

    Ed was an excellent circuit designer and engineer. He was not superstitious. In spite of this, he told me he believed that Lester Hendershot had some kind of telekinetic abilities, as the machines only worked for him. Even a complete set of accurate plans was no guarantee of ending up with a working device. Borderland Sciences Research Foundation sold a booklet on the Hendershot device for over two decades, and no one ever got one to run.

    I am quite sure that no set of plans sold today will allow anybody to build a working model of that device. This is certainly true of Hendershot's original designs. So, the slickly sold scam plans will definitely not work.

    That said, I see people making variations on Hendershot's ideas in this thread, and wish you all well.

    Best regards,
    Peter
    Hi Peter.
    Yes "Wild Talents" and other things written about Lester gave that
    telekinetic impression.
    But I think it is "true" and "not true" in the following way.
    We all have energy fields around us. You can put a scope probe
    on a circuit with coils and capacitors and see one sort of sine way,
    then touch it and the "human capacitance" will change everything --
    similar to how a theremin works. Lester would obviously have
    some knowledge about his device that is crucial to success such as:
    1) Orientation relative to Earth's field in that location.
    The vector of this field has an x a y and a z component unique
    to the spot on the globe you reside. The SPIN he probably is
    creating will be ideal with a certain orientation.
    So one question would be "How strong is your magnet and
    does the Earth's field matter." If you select a weak magnet,
    then the Earth's field may play an important role. If your magnet
    well exceeds the Earth's field by orders of magnitude, then
    it can probably be ignored. Lester's personal machine may have
    had a very "right-sized" magnet whereas Ed's machine may have
    need a subtle orientation adjustment that Ed didn't know how to do.
    2) The masters of Chi know how to balance their bodies chemistry
    so as to keep a large charge in their Dantian. This may amount
    to eating proper foods for energy and living a "monk-like" life.
    3) There is certainly a "tuning" trick here and Lester may have been
    able to TAP to the right loop of a coil or get the hand-made
    capacitor in balance by "feel", since he's done it so many times.

    So the inventor will have some knowledge of getting it going ...
    sort of like how a guy who works on his own motorcycle can start it,
    but other's cant.

    This can be another "cold fusion" like invention... No one can do
    it unless they know the trick -- smooth palladium not rough palladium.

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  • Peter Lindemann
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    Good Timing!

    Originally posted by Qwestry View Post
    jimboot: I assume you're referring to this site in particular:

    The Hendershot Generator

    As it happens, I registered just to ask you guys about that. I confess to knowing nothing about these issues and my impression is that it is a hoax; when something seems too good to be true, it usually is.

    It is a hoax, right?

    Thanks.
    Dear Qwestry,

    Someone else just asked me this question in a private email. Here is what I told him.

    Yes, this is a scam. Back when Hendershot was building working models, one of the people who knew him was Ed Skilling. I met Ed back in the early 1980's due to my connections with Borderland Sciences Research Foundation. Ed told me he saw a number of machines that Lester built operating. When he asked for the plans, Lester gave him detailed instructions. Ed was a very talented and skilled electronics engineer. He built the model exactly to Lester's specifications but was not able to start the unit. One day, Lester came over to Ed's house and Ed showed him the model he built. It took Lester less than a minute to start the model that Ed built. It ran itself and lit a light bulb. When Lester left, the machine continued to run. It ran for days without any problem. Then, Ed turned it off..... and never got it running again.

    Ed was an excellent circuit designer and engineer. He was not superstitious. In spite of this, he told me he believed that Lester Hendershot had some kind of telekinetic abilities, as the machines only worked for him. Even a complete set of accurate plans was no guarantee of ending up with a working device. Borderland Sciences Research Foundation sold a booklet on the Hendershot device for over two decades, and no one ever got one to run.

    I am quite sure that no set of plans sold today will allow anybody to build a working model of that device. This is certainly true of Hendershot's original designs. So, the slickly sold scam plans will definitely not work.

    That said, I see people making variations on Hendershot's ideas in this thread, and wish you all well.

    Best regards,
    Peter
    Last edited by Peter Lindemann; 02-04-2013, 08:02 PM.

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  • Qwestry
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    Originally posted by jimboot View Post
    Anyone else getting spam about the hendershot generator? My wife just got some! LOL
    jimboot: I assume you're referring to this site in particular:

    The Hendershot Generator

    As it happens, I registered just to ask you guys about that. I confess to knowing nothing about these issues and my impression is that it is a hoax; when something seems too good to be true, it usually is.

    It is a hoax, right?

    Thanks.

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  • jimboot
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    Anyone else getting spam about the hendershot generator? My wife just got some! LOL

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  • morpher44
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    military classification

    Originally posted by mikec_ut View Post
    @morpher
    It is going to be one of the little things that is going to push the technology in to the future, so keep up the good work.

    I have been studying Magnetic Amplifiers to see how that might apply to the Hendershot devices. The comment made about Lester having an natural knack to wind coils to his specification by look, feel and audio sound makes the replication a lot harder. The Magnetic Amplifier is another lost art that existed at the time this invention was created.

    The adventure continues.
    I watched this interview:
    The Hutchison Effect: The John Hutchison Interview - YouTube

    The comments from Hutchinson about John Alexander wanting
    to classify certain things so that they could remain in the public
    domain -- as long as they had the STIGMA of being a bit fringe, weird,
    spooky, unbelievable, etc. was insightful.

    I think Hendershot fell under the same spell. There appears to have been
    a campaign to make him look like a person who could do things:
    - with intuition,
    - or that it only works when he's in the room (implying PK)
    - etc,
    I suspect is just a psyop to create a level of distrust in the technology,
    giving it a sort of tainted "hoax" residue, so that nice folks don't
    waste time investigating it... move along ... nothing to see here ...
    have a nice day.

    Yet the device itself appears to have evolved from something simple -- a toy plane ---
    to this elaborate MKIII device, utilizing very complex non-linear circuitry.
    I have to think that Hendershot received "help" from other engineers and
    scientists to refine the machine over several generations of technological attempts.
    He may have left the mortal coil before he was allowed to finish.

    Funny that Hutchinson thinks that young people should study "tubes".
    Cute.

    -morpher44
    Last edited by morpher44; 02-01-2013, 10:58 PM.

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  • mikec_ut
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    Video

    @morpher
    I like the low friction video. Also I have enjoyed all the other videos that you have made on the Hendershot topic. I watched (I believe) your latest video on the honeycomb coil and the ring magnet, good job.

    It is going to be one of the little things that is going to push the technology in to the future, so keep up the good work.

    I have been studying Magnetic Amplifiers to see how that might apply to the Hendershot devices. The comment made about Lester having an natural knack to wind coils to his specification by look, feel and audio sound makes the replication a lot harder. The Magnetic Amplifier is another lost art that existed at the time this invention was created.

    The adventure continues.

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  • morpher44
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    me too

    Originally posted by mikec_ut View Post
    Oh! Yea! I am a sucker for people that have dreams and then build what the dream about and it becomes national news.
    Me too!. And what is great about this mystery is the nice paper trail.

    A well known experiment they do in physics classes to teach Lenz's Law
    is to drop a ring magnet down a copper pipe.

    Suppose instead of a pipe, you had a coil. Suppose also the geometry
    you set up has the magnet not actually falling, but moving in a sort of
    artificially create magnetic "gravity-like" well.

    Tesla's Egg of Columbus solves the problem, not by cheating, not be
    bumping the egg on the table to make one side flat, and then
    standing it w/o effort. Tesla has to go and do it the hard way,
    with a spinning magnetic VORTEX and an Egg with a magnet inside.
    Tesla was bad ass!!!

    If the oscillating magnetic well/vortex could be created using "ambient" subtle energies... removing friction -- low inertia:

    Super low friction bearing - YouTube

    and harvesting the oscillations w/o impeding those oscillations,
    you don't violate the laws of physics, and the machine is NOT
    perpetual. It just has a very long damped oscillation with
    a positive feedback connection to itself to increase gain.
    The energy does need to come from some place, and we
    certainly have lots of energy all around us. It may not take
    very much to create a small magnetic field that allows a magnet
    to spin up to create larger fields, and so on.

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  • mikec_ut
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    Re: Finished Mk1

    @Morpher,
    I enjoy all of the extra information, ever little bit helps.

    One of the reasons that I selected the first version was that there was really 3 of them. The first was a toy plane built for his son. I believe the photo of the toy plane sitting on a wood stand was that first version. The photo mentioned that included both father and son was a bit bigger as stated by Morpher in a previous post. None of the witnesses liked the first version because it only worked while positioned in one direction. Hendershot then worked a long time to get a version that would work in all directions. The photo with the free standing model plane that both father and son were holding has a longer prop, wider wing span, longer body, etc. This model I believe was the one that could work in any direction and might really fly. This was the second version. The patent description was taken from both of these devices. The third version of Hendershot device, which was much bigger was built by the engineers at the air base. This version was so impressive that it was taken to Washington to be demo'ed to the military. Then other things happened at that point.

    It appears that this first device could be scaled to any size and it would still work. I hope the principles that are used on this first device can be rediscovered. Oh! Yea! I am a sucker for people that have dreams and then build what the dream about and it becomes national news.

    The adventure continues.

    Background on build: I used the photo with the toy plane on the wood stand and made an assumption that the wood plate of the stand was 1/4 inch thick. By taking the angle of the plane in the photo I calculated the size of the device contained within the opening visible in the photo. This method gave me a starting point to build the Mk1 device.

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  • morpher44
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    magnet off kilter

    Oscilloscope Affected by Spinning an Angled Magnet - YouTube

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  • morpher44
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    the magnet SPINS?

    Originally posted by GSM View Post
    L6 is also shown to be wound around M7, thus indicating a permanent magnetic core,
    and yet a permanent magnet core cannot but render assymmetrical any coil induced field, unless,
    that magnetic core has a deliberately weak field such that all it might do is cancel the Earth's natural field and leave L6 working entirely naturally within the honeycombs ?
    Or could it be that there are a pair of polarly opposing magnets glued together which appear like a normal magnet at their outer ends, but where the L6 overwind could then induce a resultant rotating field within the honeycombs ?
    If L6 is to do no more than electromagnetically energise a physically resonant metallic element, is it merely influencing the field of L6, or is there some other undocumented circuit coupling ?

    Is it possible that an L6 induced alternating or rotating field could cyclically augment the field of the simultaneously energised honeycomb winding,
    and thus spatially energise L13 and L14 equally but oppositely,
    which might then serially energise L4,
    and thence the L19 + L22 + L25 windings,
    all of these constituting a 360 degree phase shifted feedback loop between output and L6, this being a requirement for self sustainably of oscillation ?

    As I mentioned before, I believe that the transformer laminations stated to surround L19 and L25 are deliberate disinformation to ensure that replicators could never succeed, though there might well have been a silver painted grained wooden frame to support those fine wire windings, this giving the impression of transformer laminations. Certainly no gigahertz possilities here, and thus not with the directly connected L6 and honeycombs either !
    ...
    Cheers ........... Graham.
    .
    I've been thinking about this. If Hendershot evolved this more complicated
    approach from his more simple Toy Airplane Motor idea, after working
    with some pretty smart engineers enlisted by the army, AND
    if the Toy Airplane also used a ring magnet on an axis, might we not
    think that the ring magnet is made to SPIN within the near-flat
    surrounding honeycomb coil?

    If you put a ring magnet with a hole in it over a pencil, and then
    move another magnet around the circumference of that magnet,
    since its flat faces are N and S, the magnet will tweak off kilter
    relative to the axis (given there is a bit of play here).
    Now imagine that you've wrapped a thin COIL on a former
    that sits around this ring magnet. When current flows through
    that coil, it will induce a magnetic field that will either add or
    subtract with the magnets field. It will PUSH it along that axis
    outword, or inward. If the axis is not allowed to move, and if the
    magnet is slightly off kilter, might it not spin instead?
    Attach a propeller to it, and you have a toy plane.
    You have cut the field East-West per the Hendershot description.

    As for the coil. You can't just have a solenoid style coil.
    If you do the math on this, you would need a HUGE amount
    of turns and wire. You need a "different" way of winding the
    coil to give you a LARGE magnetic field with very little current
    and less wire.
    Knowing a bit about Radio, you might go to a honeycomb coil,
    because you can read right in the books about them that
    you can create a larger inductance with less wire and less capacitance.
    Further, the wire ideally is thinner, smaller gauge with the
    two pegs of the honeycomb former being close, the thickness
    of your magnet. Another thing that occurs to me is that
    each place the wire crosses on the honeycomb coil, there is an associated
    diamond shape being made around the pegs. This diamond shape,
    according the right-hand-rule, would allow for a sort of
    Walter Russell intersection vortex area, which create virtual
    spokes all around the coil. As the magnet SPINs, each of
    these "virtual spokes", spin as well, inducing current in the coil
    and adding positive feedback as velocities increase -- up
    to some equilibrium. That equilibrium is the function of the
    resistance in the wire, the magnetic balance you've achieved,
    the other background noise entering the system (RF and EMF), etc.

    I can't wait to try this. It will be tricky to build. You have to make
    a nice honeycomb coil that matches your ring magnet perfectly
    so that with the least amount of current you can counter-effect
    the magnet inside. The orientation relative to the Earth's field only
    matters if the magnetic field your dealing with is in the milliTesla
    to microTesla range. For a toy it certainly would be, using weaker
    magnets.

    The circuit itself may be very simple. Just short the coil to itself,
    but also attach it to a metallic plate since the plate, ala Tesla,
    will be picking up a slight amount of radiant energy, and RF, etc.
    There will be high-voltage transients that BURN quickly through the
    coil, with the time-constant per the length of the wire, creating
    a magnetic field as it goes. The real trick here is to have a coil
    that is easily wound, uses less wire, but can create a STRONG
    magnetic field, with a very very tiny current. The other difficulty
    is removing friction and keeping everything isolated.

    You DIY people out there, interested in this challenge?
    Last edited by morpher44; 01-30-2013, 02:13 AM.

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  • hywystr
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    Hendershot.

    Thank you for the clues. I see I need to do more research and bone up on the principles. Hopefully enough people get interested in this to produce something usable.

    Originally posted by morpher44 View Post
    uH - micro Henry. The Henry is the unit for inductance.
    Henry (unit) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia)
    Q - read up on LRC circuits and resonance.
    Q factor - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    There is Q for parallel LRC circuits and Q for series LRC circuits.
    For Parallel Q, Q = R * sqrt(C/L). You also want to learn about
    impedance - reactance
    You want Q to be BIG
    re: cylinders -- covered in the "Hendershot Replication" thread.

    btw, you can read the many posts dating back to 2009.
    There is a lot of material here to go thru.
    You need a good book on Basic Electronics. One that discusses
    resonant circuts in particular and impedance.
    You can also "google search" for these things.

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  • morpher44
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    Originally posted by mikec_ut View Post
    Because of the complexity of the induction interaction process I wanted to start in the beginning with the toy plane that only operated when oriented in one direction.
    So the adventure begins.
    Mikeec_ut,
    Wow! Great work. I am very excited about this. This is something I want
    to do as well when I get a break from my day job.
    I like the idea of going back to the "first" invention.
    It occurred to me that what we are seeing in terms of this patent
    application and what your are building may actually NOT be the first device.

    The newspaper PHOTO of Hendershot and son "with PLANE" is black and
    white and difficult to see. But if you stare at it long enough, you start to see
    the outline of the plane the boy is holding. It looks to me to be no more
    than 18 inches long and with a propeller that is pretty large -- say 5 inches
    or so. The "motor-device" would be inside the plane up near the propeller.
    It would BE a motor, with its windings "changed" and perhaps some
    other circuitry and Hendershot came up with.

    So in the device you built, there is a ring magnet, I suppose.
    Do you imagine it be "fixed" in place or do you imagine it SPINs
    in the cylinder provided for it?

    I think Hendershot's plane would SPIN the propeller.

    Hence, we are looking for a new way of making either an AC motor
    or a DC motor. Interesting that the device you are working on is
    suppose to produce AC. Since Hendershot's schematic here appears
    to have NO diodes for rectification of the AC, this AC might go
    directly over to an AC motor. He may have harvested a tiny
    AC motor from some sewing machine, since a "sewing machine" sized
    motor was mentioned. Further, in one of the photos of his MARKIII,
    you see a big-ole motor in a box off to the side.

    So the thing you built might need to connect to a motor ... and
    the motor TOO, as a load, plays a role in the mutual induction.
    OR
    There is an even older MOTOR modification that Hendershot had done.

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  • mikec_ut
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    Finished Mk1

    All,

    I have just finished my Hendershot Mk1 version. This has been interesting to get a feel of who Lester Hendershot was and how much of an induction genius he must have been. I have included a couple of pictures, sorry for them being a little blurry but I don't have a closeup capable camera just hanging around when I wanted to take pictures. The white ruler is only 6 inches long but it will give you an idea of scale.

    But of course it didn't work and I had no expectations of it working. You must realize who prepared the patent information and most of the other detailed data about this device. The lawyer who did not get any input for Hendershot on whether the information he presented in the patent description was correct or the letter of questions sent to Hendershot that was never answered.

    Now comes the fun part of what was really going on and how these parts should act. Mutual inductance, resonant frequencies with magnetic amplifies and oscillators were a natural thing back in his day. So, this is going to take a while to figure out. This should be fun.

    Background: For 30 years I have had a schematic diagram that was used in a research project with hand written notes of events that accrued during the testing process. It would surface now and again but I never through it out. This schematic was signed by a name that I have never seen while investigating energy devices. When researching Hendershot devices I saw a schematic that reminded me of one I had seen before. I searched for the saved schematic and found that the scrabbled signature on the schematic was Ed Skilling dated back in the 50's. Lester J. Hendershot was the originator of the diagram but this version was what Skilling observed when he was trying to duplicate the Hendershot device under the direction of Hendershot. But research revealed that no one has been able to duplicate the Hendershot Mk3 device even though many have tried. Trying to understand this device I decided to start at the beginning. The Hendershot device was unknown until after he made the toy model plane for his son. The 4 pictures of other early devices looked to be more along the line of induction compass prototypes and not the Hendershot generator or motor. Because of the complexity of the induction interaction process I wanted to start in the beginning with the toy plane that only operated when oriented in one direction.

    So the adventure begins.
    Attached Files

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  • morpher44
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    basic electronics...

    Originally posted by hywystr View Post
    TWhat does the uH stand for? I do not follow Q either. I am painfully aware the tank circuit I made does not oscillate. You did not mention anything about the metal lining on the basket weave coils? As far as duplicating exactly what Lester did I am more interested in building something that I can use. I do appreciate your suggestions and will investigate if they help? I trust you were able to look over the post I did of the drawing to show what I have built, sitting in my dining room. Where can I find the directions you mention to hand make the caps Lester made? I would think that all the people interested in this, on this site, should be able to work together and build something that works. A lot of time is wasted if we are duplicating our efforts. As far as a "hobby" goes, I am serious about building a device I can hook my house up to. Bob
    uH - micro Henry. The Henry is the unit for inductance.
    Henry (unit) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia)
    Q - read up on LRC circuits and resonance.
    Q factor - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    There is Q for parallel LRC circuits and Q for series LRC circuits.
    For Parallel Q, Q = R * sqrt(C/L). You also want to learn about
    impedance - reactance
    You want Q to be BIG
    re: cylinders -- covered in the "Hendershot Replication" thread.

    btw, you can read the many posts dating back to 2009.
    There is a lot of material here to go thru.
    You need a good book on Basic Electronics. One that discusses
    resonant circuts in particular and impedance.
    You can also "google search" for these things.
    Last edited by morpher44; 01-29-2013, 06:47 AM.

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