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Originally posted by ChrisW View Post
A 90Hz supply? Graham! You're still thinking INSIDE the box! Have you forgotten that his motor was touted as "fuelless?" Here's a clue: think SHORTED COILS. What happens when you short a coil as it's passing through a magnetic field? Ahhh, interesting, eh, mate?
Chris
Also those Mk1 output coils, they cannot transduce unless there is a differential field between inside and outside of the winding, and the published diagram suggests that there is not any internal field differential.
Re mechanical filters - I've seen the drawings but can't find anything on the 'net. Will see if I have anything in a Collins manual here.
Just found my generator board - hiding in a ball of bubble-wrap.
Back soon .......... Graham.
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Various points of interest
Greetings, Graham...
Hope you're doing better today.
First, the good news: I do have a fairly complete machine shop at my disposal, so doing precision work won't be much of a problem. I'm thinking specifically of the 57 holes for the basket weave coils. That's pretty much the only difficult part to create (well, getting the holes drilled accurately, anyway).
I'm not familiar with the Rockwell Collins device you mentioned. Any info available?
A 90Hz supply? Graham! You're still thinking INSIDE the box! Have you forgotten that his motor was touted as "fuelless?" Here's a clue: think SHORTED COILS. What happens when you short a coil as it's passing through a magnetic field? Ahhh, interesting, eh, mate?
My Hilton book has the covers intact, not that that means anything. The important thing is that you have it and can refer to it. Just one thing, his analyses lead NOWHERE. This is where intuition, creativity and out-of-the-box thinking come into play. Hilton was diligent in his research, but in the end, he was pretty much clueless about how any of the devices operate.
As far as the N-S and E-W coils go, I'm thinking that small currents passing through one pair generate a small magnetic flux and thus induce a bit of additional current (for free!) in the other pair. Amplification! As those currents continue to build with each cycle, more and more energy circulates through the system.
The point of the above, as well as other mentions of building up energy over time is that you can then "siphon off" a small portion of it for your own purposes (the load).
I have a concept in mind that's definitely Hendershot related, and very possibly related to Hans Coler as well. I suspect both devices have a great deal in common. I'll be tinkering with this concept over the next several days, as time permits. Details forthcoming...
Chris
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Hi Chris,
Like you I thought of starting at the beginning with the Mk1, but I do not have a workshop, and I imagine precision machining the construction necessary to replicate those early buzzers beyond my scope. So that's me out !
Lester's original Mk1 tuner core buzzer could even have been a fore-runner to the mechanical IF transformers developed by Rockwell Collins for military communications receivers. With both its vibrating element being somewhat smaller than in the Mk3 version, and the secondary steel oscillator strip more resonant, this early genset must have had a higher frequency of oscillation.
I do not know how the Hendershot motor had been constructed, but an rpm figure of 1800 is often mentioned. Divide by 60 for revs per second and we get 30; then multiply by the number of motor poles in order to calculate the generated frequency. Three poles would require a 90Hz supply, or with his 6 pole claw stators possibly 180Hz.
Re the power pulse modulator I mentioned - as you say not only premature - but unfaithful to the already proven principle of completely fuelless operation we ought to harness. (I still can't find it anyway!)
Re the Hilton book you mentioned. That is the coverless one I already refer to, and Barry's name does not appear to be written anywhere on its pages.
Presently I'm still puzzling about the main coils. Lestershot's Mk1 utilises matched output coils illustrated with oppositely sensed windings inside transformar laminations minus their centre core. I guess this is so that the Earth's N-S field ran through these cores, whilst a generated E-W field ran through the adjoining 22/23 inductor, to generate equal but opposite rotating fields around T18 and T27 cores ?
Given that I though I might bypass Mk1 and Mk2 to invesyigate Mk3 straight off, I still wonder about circuit operation and whether you or anyone else here might have had any thoughts about the MK1 modus operandi, because I don't see how the output cores could transduce anything unless T18 and T27 had central laminations ?
Who knows what disinformation trickery might be afoot in order to deliberately steer potential replicators towards failure ?
Cheers ............ Graham.
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Hi Boguslaw.
The Dip Angle is proof that the magnetic field of the Earth is of the Earth's core, and thus would decrease through space as does the field around any magnet we would care to examine.
Interesting here about 2/3rds way down -
http://www.rexresearch.com/hendersho...UtilityEng.pdf
GGOS Portal - Magnetic field missions
Magnetic Reversals
Physical problem causes me to be headzonked here today, so taking it easy and re-gathering thoughts.
Cheers ......... Graham.Last edited by GSM; 10-11-2012, 11:02 AM.
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Little off topic..... do you know if permanent magnet field strength was tested outside Earth magnetosphere by any Apollo or other moon project ?
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Suggestions for moving forward
Greetings, Graham...
I've been giving considerable thought to the buzzer and how to begin. It may not be possible to move forward without retracing Hendershot's steps, i.e., recreating the phenomenon observed in the Mark I and Mark II. This is the metal resonator strip inside the coil in the latter device. Once the "wiggle" is seen on the scope, that first-hand knowledge and experience will be the guiding factor in recreating the Mark III.
At present, I'm inclined to say that it can be done with a ring magnet, a coil, the resonator strip and a frequency generator. The goal is to obtain an increase in voltage, i.e., amplification of the input signal. Once it is understood how the ring magnet, coil and resonator interact with one another, the rest becomes quite academic. Without taking this first step, successfully, I'm afraid the whole experience in recreating the Mark III will be an exercise in frustration and futility.
Thus, the use of a power pulse modulator would be premature, if not altogether unnecessary. After all, did Lester have such a device? On this note, I must also retract my concept of a transistorized drive circuit, even for testing purposes. I now believe we must make every effort to follow faithfully in Lester's footsteps, learning as he did along the way.
Your idea of phase shifting one full cycle is brilliant and accurate. This is much akin to phase conjugation, but at the RF level. Reintroduce the signal, in phase, at the input, and voila! Amplification!
As for Alnico magnets... well, if you can find one that's big enough! Since it's highly unlikely that we'll find the exact materials Lester used, we'll have to do the best we can with modern materials. What might work is simply two rather weak ceramic magnets on the ends of a U-shaped ferrite core. The dimensions of the core will be the trick. Short magnetic path, but ample space between the legs.
Finding bell ringer coils isn't as easy as it used to be, either. I do like your idea of pinball machine coils, though! Very creative thinking!
I, too, like Hendershot's design for the same reasons you do, plus the relative simplicity (once we fully understand what he did and how he did it).
Lastly, Hilton's book is titled "Secrets of Perpetual Power - The Hendershot Mystery." I'm sure it's still out there on the web in PDF form. It's about 30MB in size.
Chris
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Originally posted by ChrisW View Post
Let us not permit the name Lester Hendershot to fade into historical obscurity!
Chris
I had mentioned the possibility of replacing the magnet/ buzzer assembly with an electronic drive to an energising transformer, and was thinking of something like this (which I already have - somewhere?). This offers an adjustable mark-space ratio and thus a tunable HF pulse width upon the AC drive waveform, whereby the adjustable generator may be tuned to a pair of matching coils, instead of two coils being brought into tuned operation with the still unknown and variable characteristics of a magnet buzzer. This would be like optimising spark duration on an already timed fuel injected engine, instead of having to do the same as well as choose jets, balance carbs and set up timing on a 'V' engine by ear.
Power Pulse Modulator - OCXI
Then this morning I considered the likelyhood of a phase shifted (delayed) feedback loop BACK into the the buzzer/ cores from the output windings (to which the buzzer is connected), and this being what maintains core vibration.
I also thought about that vibration, for the coil induced voltage amplitude from a static magnetic field would relate to the amplitude-frequency-velocity of the oscillating core. Potentially the buzzer coil voltage could become considerable, and present considerable back-EMFs if the lamp were to unexpectedly blow and suddenly become open circuit whilst an operator was manually adjusting for peak tuning of a running generator, as per simultaneously pressure tuning both cores with one hand on each coil assembly !!!
Could easily be 2000V - Hendershots electric shock ?
Hence the clamps !
So I was wondering how to replicate the 'buzzer' and I recon we could use a high power Alnico horseshoe magnet with a pair of old 50Vac score unit pinball coils to make for 100Vac working (still available new as replacements from pinball repair shops), their matching plungers being affixed to a piece of soft iron bar cut to suit !
I know there are many other 'free energy' designs Chris, but I like Hendershot's because;-
it is completely self contained,
can be used anywhere (as in an isolated greenhouse),
and is EMP proof !
Thus investigative work must continue ...........
Cheers .......... Graham.
PS. I have the Australian Nutech pages and don't know of the Hilton notes, are they available on the 'net ?
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More Revelations
Okay, some of the remaining fog is beginning to clear.
Let's look back at the history, and thus the evolution, of Hendershot's devices. We begin with the Mark I.
Note: All references are to Hilton's research.
Hendershot states that his first "fuelless generator" WORKED ONLY WHEN THE DEVICE WAS PLACED IN A NORTH/SOUTH ORIENTATION.
That's the OPERATIVE (SOURCE) MAGNETIC FIELD. Earth's magnetic field. Although a magnet was located elsewhere in the circuit, the four primary coils, in their alternating positions, amplified a signal sourced by an ANTENNA, and that feeble amount of energy was enough to start the oscillations within the circuit, which then continued to build on itself. I believe it's safe to say that this device is the first derivation of his compass work, and that it's output was likely quite small.
Because Hendershot, or someone interested in the device, found the North/South alignment requirement objectionable, Hendershot set out on development of the the Mark II. In this version, Hendershot dispensed with the planet's magnetic field and devised a new "front end" using a RING MAGNET. Note that the "resonator metal strip" was STILL connected to an ANTENNA to provide the initial energy to set it into oscillation. It is likely that this version was a substantial improvement over the Mark I.
Note that in the Mark II, Hendershot was utilizing only one pole of the ring magnet, the field of which penetrated into the "tuning coil," as Hilton calls it.
Years later, the Mark III emerged. In this version, the resonator was improved by the use of horseshoe magnets, and now TWO "tuning coils" with the ever-present resonator strip, allowing Hendershot to take full advantage of the dual polarity and additional energy gain of a complete, optimal, magnetic circuit.
In summary, both the Mark I and Mark II utilized only ONE magnetic pole, yet still produced a usable current. It wasn't until the Mark III that serious power was developed, an estimated 300 watts worth.
Note that Hendershot's early compass work is what LED to the development of the Mark I, but that ALL later versions utilized MAGNETS, and NOT Earth's magnetic field, as the primary energy source.
Interestingly, Hendershot seems to have dispensed with the antenna in the Mark III model, as Hilton makes no mention of it in the text or the drawings. This could account for the start-up difficulties in that model, leaving me to think that its omission wasn't such a good idea after all.
In closing, it is apparent that Hendershot remained true to his METHOD, while making significant progress with each evolutionary step. It is up to us now to follow in his footsteps and bring this wonderful device back to life. Let us not permit the name Lester Hendershot to fade into historical obscurity!
Chris
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Originally posted by boguslaw View PostLet's look bigger scope.... Earth is rotating, someone says its magnetic field is rotating too, but the fact is - it doesn't matter if it's rotating or not, because here we are all bond to gravity field and are in the same point of reference so any current induced in wire by Earth field is not visible unless.... you know what Hendershot,Hubbard,Ed Leedscalnin, C.Amman, Clemente Figuera (known as Figueras) knew in period between 1900 and 1939, and of course thousands of other inventors later....
From all those I think Hendershot gone far in explaining the principle. Levitation inside wires . Most probably related to standing electric waves, because Tesla described how he thought about a metalic ring rotating above equator around Earth...
the weight of the earth, spinning at about 1000miles per hour...
if i recall correct, the available power is about 100 million horsepower, basically what Tesla said in 1900
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Ufff...sorry cannot help more because I'm not following Hendershot devices history or even remember his circuits. However I'm fully aware that magnetic current can flow infinitely inside iron core and we can re-use it continously to create charge separation when we know how. Ed Leedscalnin knew for example.
Charge separation seeks to balance and ....
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Magnetic Bias
Greetings, Graham,
Shame on you, starting sentences with "And" and "But" -- surely, the Queen would not approve! Long live the Queen! (from the roar of the crowd comes a voice "And all who sail in her!" )
Funny, just as I was also coming around to your way of thinking! On more than one occassion, George Bugh mentions a "weak, static, magnetic bias field" to achieve spin resonance.
Looking at Lester's earlier designs, three things jump out at me. 1) He had a coil surrounded by a magnetic "yoke," the precise definition of which remains uncertain, but at the bottom of this coil is a RING MAGNET. 2) Looking at his amplification system, one sees four coils (page 33 of Hilton), two of which are turned at 90° to the other two, and 3) his consistent use of a strip of metal, which Hilton calls the "resonator strip."
In (1) and (2), do you not see a means of providing a BIAS field? In (3), is not the suspended metal strip mechanically equivalent to the Mark 3 version's spring-loaded metal strip (on the end OPPOSITE the permanent magnet)?
Whilst his mechanical design varied slightly from one creation to the next, the underlying principle remained consistent throughout the years.
At its core (pardon the pun), every Hendershot device is a magnetic amplifier within a resonant system (with the possible exception of his motor, which I perceive to be a predecessor to Bedini, sans battery -- perhaps worthy of future discussion), in which all of the energy in the system is recycled and is used to build an ever increasing amount of energy, limited only by the physical ability of the system to carry the current (e.g., wire sizes, capacitance, etc.).
"Oscillators amplify, and amplifiers oscillate," Lawrence once told me. The Mark III is a magnetic amplifier embedded in an oscillator.
To momentarily digress:
You mentioned previously that you didn't think there was any POWER in all that EM noise all around us. Google "ambient energy antenna" and see how many hits come back. Now imagine such a system on a LARGE scale, using copper tubing and wire no smaller than 8AWG in the inductors and antenna system, wherein the energy is compressed into increasingly smaller bandwidths, where the voltage is raised to several kV, then allowed to jump a spark gap, thereby creating oscillation. If that's not enough to whet your imagination, look up Art Bell's loop antenna, built from 10AWG cooper wire, elevated to a height of 65 feet. He (stupidly, IMHO) paid someone to SUPPRESS the energy on the antenna so he could safely plug it into his ham radio equipment without blowing out the front end electronics.
Interview With Coast-to-Coast's Talk Show Host - Art Bell - C. Crane Company (800) 522-8863
Oh yes, make no mistake, the energy is there, it's real, and with a bit of work (and significant expense), very much usable!
Back to Hendershot:
There is undoubtedly a high frequency component, as I see it, at the L1/C1 and L2 level, and I suspect it's tied into that "virtual ground" idea that we've been kicking about. I further suspect that the lower 40uF cap serves as a capacitive coupling point to L2. In other words, the additional and recycled energy is fed to that cap, which then releases it into the oscillatory part of the system, similar to the way in which a cap is used to feed the base of a transistor. I'm not solid on this point, but that's where my intuition is leading me at the moment.
Okay, my brain is now depleted. Time to get tuned back into the universe...
Chris
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Thwack!!
Originally posted by boguslaw View PostChrisW you are correct about the input bit of energy. GSM you are correct about core,
We could better precise : a source of electrons generated inside by induction of rotating Earth. Add ground also , the same.
The main problem is the efficient receiver. We have to construct a closed loop system with resistive load (or inductive but it complicated a lot of things) which do not deplete resonant condition, only slightly damp.
I answered Special Agent Boguslaw's earlier above post with this comment -
"Source of electrons ? Or movement of electron charge through a closed system ? I wonder.
Source of energy being generated for the load to dissipate ???"
I wrote that purely as a reply, but it resonated with repeated thought synchronicity, until it came back as a head slap this morning.
Everybody is seeking a replacement for electric power - whether via electrons or ions, or alpha or beta energisation, or plasma release - in order to provide energy - to consume energy - the bi-products of which eventually pollute our home planet.
But (forgetting grammar) Hendershot was not making energy by generating new electrons, he was merely moving charge via a closed circuit of electrons which already exist, and the only mechanism he had for doing this was via those buzzer mechanisms.
And (forgetting grammar again) that head slap made me realise this - when buzzer coils are tested for inductance, exactly as any investigating scientist would, their cores are NOT polarised !
The core of a Hendershot buzzer has temporary remenence - like a magnetic short circuit - so the buzzer coils simply cannot have the same high impedance as is measured on the test bench, and as arises in real-world Hendershot device operation just prior to their instant of core field collapse and then reversed sequence repeated when vibrating in the magnet field !
Which brings me more to your way of thinking Chris, for Hendershot's buzzer cores were to a magnetc field as like capacitors are to an electric field. The electron spin orbits within the core (domain alignments) were aligning with the magnet's already polarised (and polarising) spin orbit, then, as the core spin orbits returned to molecular normal (field collapse) the windings transduced an energy pulse - this with an active electrical time constant related to the length of the buzzer winding and its electrical characteristics at the instant of field collapse, and not merely the passive inductance of the winding, which would be more like an HF high impedance (virtual OC) for any cyclic momentary period during which the core was not energised.
Did the flip-flop tank cores need to be tuned to the buzzer pulse width, this being of much higher frequency that the buzzer's mechanical vibration frequency - and yet - with both of these frequencies subsequently needing to be mechanically/ electrically synchronised ? !
Which brings me back to my last post, for maybe a LF square wave output drive, via a series capacitor, which HF pulse resonates a transformer, could replace the buzzer for experimental purposes, whilst a 180 degree phased/ balanced/ coupled twin HF oscillating tank coil arrangement, is tuned to the energising transformer resonance, and AC load tested with +/- 90 degree series capacitor phasing at LF.
(Makes me think of spark energised arrangements like Don's, though there, any phase shifted loading was not apparent.)
Cheers ......... Graham.Last edited by GSM; 10-09-2012, 10:13 AM.
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Trec
Graham,
The TREC is indeed open source on Yahoo group OneSmallStepForMan. My compilation simply boils it down to the most pertinent facts. My offer still stands.
Chris
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Originally posted by boguslaw View PostChrisW you are correct about the input bit of energy. GSM you are correct about core, but what is a core anyway ? Take a coil with iron core, isn't a core also a secondary like in Tesla coil ?
A Tesla coil does not have a core other than the free surface congregated electrons and the winding itself, so not all of Tesla coil/ electrode activity is light speed limited.
Originally posted by boguslaw View PostWe could better precise : a source of electrons generated inside by induction of rotating Earth. Add ground also , the same.
Source of energy being generated for the load to dissipate ???
Originally posted by boguslaw View PostThe main problem is the efficient receiver. We have to construct a closed loop system with resistive load (or inductive but it complicated a lot of things) which do not deplete resonant condition, only slightly damp. Then antenna or core and/or ground connection to receive a bit of energy or/and electrons.
With currently used types of circuits it's impossible because resonance is strictly "stiffen" by connection to power source which damp or disturb natural oscillations. The same about Lenz law.
Experimentation is essential, and yet I too wonder like Chris if beforehand we might be able to establish a better starting point; for example what about using a variable frequency square wave driven transformer secondary in place of the magnetic buzzer ?
Morpher, you have studied Hendershot buzzer characteristics, do you think this could be worth a try, or would the nature of induced current/ voltage phase relationship be wrong such that we would need reactive (tuned series or parallel C-L) drive ?
Cheers .......... Graham.
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