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  • GSM
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    Originally posted by thx1138 View Post
    How would ring magnets (or any other shape for that matter) under the Mk III cap/coil sleeves affect the transformers that were obviously sitting on top of them if they were in fact there? I don't know enough about magnetics to venture a guess.
    Physically align the sleeve to be set just beyond or within ITS neutral zone field intensity distance w.r.t. the magnet's static field when the sleeve is additionally pulsed with an external winding induced field.
    Sorry - I was talking about the tin etc. coil sleeve there, you asked about the transformers being affected - they won't be.
    Last edited by GSM; 01-04-2014, 11:13 AM.

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  • GSM
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    Originally posted by pjotterkjen View Post
    Graham, can you point me to any of your (or anyone else's) published builds from Wesley Gary?
    Hi pjotterkjen.

    There are a few who have replicated Wesley's rocking magnet arrangements.
    This is very difficult, especially to make a free running 'machine', and although possible, it quickly becomes obvious to anyone who tries this (me included), that it is also pretty pointless.

    In the Dailymotion video I linked, that neutral zone effect demonstration was using a pathetic magnet (paperclip strength) creating field reversals within an ordinary transistor radio ferrite rod antenna, this because I needed to get the compass away from the nearest magnet pole.

    That same mechanically *effortless* core field reversal as demonstrated occurs in relay/transformer type cores as well, whereby even the very *slowest* of physical movements will pulse illuminate LEDS connected to an overwind because the reversal within the metal occurs at its own independently fast and core molecule related speed, yet with a pulse output completion time period also separately related to the over-winding inductance.
    So it is not just the existence of Wesley Gary's 'neutral zone' that is important, nor the lack of mechanical effort necessary in order to induce a neutral zone related core field reversal, but the high speed of the field reversal within the core, this being quite independent of the mechanical (or electrical) inducement initiating that field reversal itself, and requiring a load related over-wind inductance capable of optimising output for whatever reversing frequency is intended.

    Getting back to your question about videos etc. of Wesley's generator - I am not aware of anything on the Internet in relation to this, and I most certainly will NOT be uploading anything in this regard either.

    Cheers ............... Graham.
    Last edited by GSM; 01-04-2014, 10:55 AM.

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  • thx1138
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    A point to ponder

    How would ring magnets (or any other shape for that matter) under the Mk III cap/coil sleeves affect the transformers that were obviously sitting on top of them if they were in fact there? I don't know enough about magnetics to venture a guess.

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  • pjotterkjen
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    Replication Wesley Gary & results

    Originally posted by GSM View Post

    There is another factor relating to my reply here, and this relates to me separately hands-on investigating the fully Patented Wesley Gary magnetic generator back in Sept/Oct-2013, and me finding that effortless electrical generation does arise exactly as Wesley reported, also as had been independently witnessed and reported at that time.
    Graham, can you point me to any of your (or anyone else's) published builds from Wesley Gary?

    I have read the page on rexresearch but did not intend to replicate at the time.

    Now seeing more clearly the relation of a possible resonance in the Hendershot devices around the neutral line Gary discovered and polarity change, together this might well bring us closer to unravel the MK1 mysteries...!

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  • pjotterkjen
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    some remarks

    Originally posted by GSM View Post

    Not before this week - and yes - this could be the gamechanger - especially with the Mk3.

    Why was Lester's radio demo Mk3 generator board raised at an angle ?
    As I questioned via my 27th Dec post here - because he used Ring magnets beneath the sleeve cores, with these magnets concealed by that baseboard construction, or a table cloth, possibly in the other 'working' photograph ?

    The lore was that only Hendershot could tune up his Mk3 generators.

    Yet maybe Lester used ring magnets beneath constructions and tablecloths thus ensuring controlled situation demo successes, and thus he had absolutely no concerns about letting others handle his constructions or even take them away and copy them because he knew that other 'experts' would NEVER get them running without the ring magnets they did not get !!!
    I agree the ring magnet could well make the difference in the working of the MK1/2 device. But only bench tests will let us find out. Other details may be missing too in the draft patent... we'll see.

    About the MK3 (device design of the late 50's) and the possibility of two hidden ring magnets that were extended by the core sleeves, yes it is a possibility, given the fact that Hendershot was threatened in 1928 and thus had become very careful not to disclose the mayor secret(s) of his device, but as an inventor still wanted to pass his invention on to humanity and be rewarded for it. For this reason I'm not trying to replicate this design (yet).

    So in the end, while I'm still reading up on other devices as well, I think the MK1 device is sufficiently documented to be able to replicate. I'm going to concentrate my energy and time on the collector/resonator circuit to find out why Hendershot had built it like that. I admit I'll need to return to being an analog thinker and fiddler and immerse myself in the magic world of magnetism, induction coupling, resonance, and other related stuff.

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  • GSM
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    Originally posted by thx1138 View Post
    If, indeed, the circuit builds up energy then what keeps it from burning itself up?

    What I noticed in the.......... the last video in GSM's last post is the gap between the magnets.

    I guess my real problem with the Hendershot Mk III device at this point is spending $500 to possibly light a 60 watt light bulb.
    Hi thx1138.

    Your thoughts are like mine.
    Good first question. Mk3 burn-ups were a problem after long runs.

    That last video. Imagine that armature expanded widthwise until it turned into a sleeve core, and the single magnet pole following it as a circular loudspeaker type magnet.
    Also you mention the gaps - essential for energetic polarity flips.

    Then your last comment - does that not say it all in regard to the Hendershot generator, for a Wesley Gary equivalent using neodi magnets on an iron bar could be constructed for less than $50 !!!!!

    The main advantage of the Wesley Gary device that I have noted is that it is quite literally input force neutral when attraction forces are spring neutralised about the 'neutral zone' (NO equal but opposite resistance forces whilst generating electric current), and thus this is where my hands-on efforts will continue.
    (Not on the over complex TPU either.)

    Cheers ................. Graham.
    Last edited by GSM; 01-03-2014, 09:33 PM.

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  • thx1138
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    Mk III control circuity

    I have been thinking about moving on to other projects also but these latest ideas may keep me focused on this one a while longer.

    After examining the Mk III circuit for some time my problem comes down to circuit control. If, indeed, the circuit builds up energy then what keeps it from burning itself up? I pretty well understand the function of the clapper at the U magnet, the push-pull aspect of the circuit, and that the load dissipating the electrical energy. But does that mean that the entire device must be built specifically to the load to keep it from self destructing? If the light bulb were removed wouldn't it burn itself up or is the light bulb the "fuse" so to speak? If that's the case then a varying load wouldn't be usable in this circuit would it?

    The only thing I see as a contolling feature other than the clapper is the transformers which are specified as "Vertical Oscillator Type". As GSM noted they would be of E/I construction with a gap between the E and I section which would, to some extent, control saturation.

    What I noticed in the Hendershot, Gary, Duncan, and the last video in GSM's last post is the gap between the magnets.

    As noted in earlier posts it was said that there was a ring magnet in the Hendershot device but ring magnets can be polarised in different orientations, i.e. top to bottom of through the circumference. It makes sense to me that it would be through the circumference and also that, if that is the case, the gaps between segments as shown in Duncan's drawing are critical to the device functioning. Consider if only the two output sections of Duncan's device were magnets and the input segments were ferrites oscillated by the input circuit. Thoughts anyone?

    I guess my real problem with the Hendershot Mk III device at this point is spending $500 to possibly light a 60 watt light bulb. Assuming it could be made to work and the light bulb were lit 8 hours a day it would take somewhere around 15 years to pay for itself.

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  • GSM
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    Originally posted by pjotterkjen View Post
    Some Qs for anyone that considers him/herself to be a serious Hendershot replicator and inventor...
    Have you ever considered the Hendershot MK1/2 1928 (free energy device in a model airplane) design, with a ring magnet inside coil 8a/b?
    Not before this week - and yes - this could be the gamechanger - especially with the Mk3.

    Why was Lester's radio demo Mk3 generator board raised at an angle ?
    As I questioned via my 27th Dec post here - because he used Ring magnets beneath the sleeve cores, with these magnets concealed by that baseboard construction, or a table cloth, possibly in the other 'working' photograph ?

    The lore was that only Hendershot could tune up his Mk3 generators.

    Yet maybe Lester used ring magnets beneath constructions and tablecloths thus ensuring controlled situation demo successes, and thus he had absolutely no concerns about letting others handle his constructions or even take them away and copy them because he knew that other 'experts' would NEVER get them running without the ring magnets they did not get !!!

    In this thread I had covered/ investigated every method I could conceive capable of generating excess energy, but not the possibility of concealed magnets beneath the cores. I even covered the possibility of energised electron orbit induced atomic transformations releasing energy, and whilst I think that this still occurs, I believe it to be a deleterious aspect capable of damaging the sleeve core and compromising both efficiency and tuning.

    There is another factor relating to my reply here, and this relates to me separately hands-on investigating the fully Patented Wesley Gary magnetic generator back in Sept/Oct-2013, and me finding that effortless electrical generation does arise exactly as Wesley reported, also as had been independently witnessed and reported at that time.

    http://www.energeticforum.com/attach...ry80739563.pdf

    Yes - Wesley Gary's invention was then, as it remains today, a fully functional stand alone magnetic energy generator, and given that I had had success with it on a principled basis, yet NOT with any understanding of the Hendershot generator capable of leading to a functional construction, I had already decided that this would be where my future investigative efforts would become concentrated.
    This decision has not changed, because Wesley's arrangement could be rendered completely motionless, exactly as were Hendershot' twin cores.

    I now see that Hendershot, by using capacitor phased windings over his sleeve core fed by the central magnetic oscillator arrangement, modified the already polarised field within that sleeve core, after their fields had been axially aligned close to (above) a ring magnet.

    Thus Lester Hendershot had independently ended up with an electromagnetic configuration very similar to that of Wesley Gary's, however, where Gary had transduced output from relatively low frequency mechanical magnetic alternation via overwinding a straight armature, Hendershot had transduced at a higher frequency via his circular static 'armature' core overwinds energised in a push-pull arangement via the central mechanically vibrating 'timer'.

    Where in his Mk1 Hendershot had used the Earth's magnetic field to empower his son's aeroplane, and in the Mk2 a permanent magnet - in his Mk3 - I can visualise three magnets in total.

    Also, where one Mk3 sleeve core provides not only an output to the load, it also provides input to the other core in order to maintain the continuous operation -
    and all of this decades prior to the invention of modern day electronic semiconductor switching circuit capabilities (which digitised our mindsets).

    Now Duncan is covering the Steven Mark TPU,
    http://www.energeticforum.com/renewa...ad.php?t=16424
    this being a circular arrangement of the Wesley Gary and Lester Hendershot equipments, where it is the suddenly induced field reversals within an iron ring core which may be transduced to generate electricity anywhere.

    Wesley Gary's device had field alternation via a single moving core.
    Lester Hendershot synchronised individual flip-flop like alternations between twin but separate static cores, though with moving timer armature.
    Steven Mark appears to have fully stationary segmented and dual synchronised flip-flop alternations around a single circular construction.

    However, the Wesley Gary arrangement remains my favourite because it is simple, will not overheat through hysteresis losses (Hendershot), and does not require any electronic circuitry (Steven Mark).
    Indeed, if provided with basic electronic circuitry a Wesley Gary generator could be rendered not only more powerful but also completely motionless, plus non-hazardous and electromagnetically silent (unlike Kapanadze type generating equipments).

    It is the sudden and transducible series-parallel field reversals within and through an iron based medium we need to visualise, whether these reversals are motionally or electrically induced within an armature, a sleeve, or a circular core.

    Wesley Gary Neutral Zone - Video Dailymotion
    The secret of magnetic motors - YouTube

    Cheers ................ Graham.
    Last edited by GSM; 01-03-2014, 10:19 AM.

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  • pjotterkjen
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    unravel the real Hendershot story

    Some Qs for anyone that considers him/herself to be a serious Hendershot replicator and inventor...

    Have you ever considered the Hendershot MK1/2 1928 (free energy device in a model airplane) design, with a ring magnet inside coil 8a/b?

    Have you ever thought about how Hendershot while testing and fiddling might have com to the MK3 designs through the earth inductor compass and the MK1/2 devices?

    Regarding the last Q, I'm trying to link these three devices together and could well use some professional and practical insight, so no theory just the practical facts and evolution of components.

    One example is the evolution of the collector, another is the resonator development, and another is the development of the two 'capcoils' of the MK3 designs... I see some pretty clever evolution in each device and am trying to link them into one story.

    I'm sure this will help us reconstruct the Hendershot FE Generator.

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  • pjotterkjen
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    Other Hendershot thread

    Although not an active thread anymore it is well worthy to read up:
    http://www.energeticforum.com/renewa...lications.html

    I'm still hoping morpher44 returns to continue his interesting tests!

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  • pjotterkjen
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    correction patent -> draft patent

    Originally posted by GSM View Post

    The Patent related texts are on Adobe pages 32>35 of -
    From_The_Archives_Of_Lester_J._Hendershot.pdf
    The text page numbers are 20>23.
    Yes, sorry for the confusion, I was talking about the partially completed application (the draft patent) that sadly never made it to be an accepted US patent.

    The document mentioned by Graham is the 54 page PDF published by Hendershot's son Mark, but it is also mentioned (AND analyzed very well) in the 140 page PDF "The Hendershot Mystery" (Appendix D).

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  • GSM
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    Originally posted by thx1138 View Post
    So what is the patent that is being talked about in this thread? Is it the partially completed application? Do you have the name of the document and/or a link?
    .
    The Patent related texts are on Adobe pages 32>35 of -
    From_The_Archives_Of_Lester_J._Hendershot.pdf
    The text page numbers are 20>23.

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  • GSM
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    Originally posted by thx1138 View Post

    The reason I'm asking is that I don't see a "coil 8" in the drawings I'm referencing on the MK 1 so I was guessing it was in the patent.

    Any help greatly appreciated.
    On pages 22+23 of the Adobe reader: The honeycombe coils shown in 'The HendershotMystery.pdf' were 8A and 8B.
    Maybe together they were the vertical axis "coil 8" assembly.
    This were pages bearing printed numbers 18+19.

    Aha - there is a magnet inside coil 6 within coils 8A+8B !!!

    Cheers ............. Graham.

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  • thx1138
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    Patent application

    Originally posted by GSM View Post
    I am not aware of Patent application procedures being fully completed before Lester was hospitalised in March 1928 following an 'electric shock' whilst demonstrating his equipment at the Patent Office ?
    That would explain why I can't find anything on the web. So what is the patent that is being talked about in this thread? Is it the partially completed application? Do you have the name of the document and/or a link?

    The reason I'm asking is that I don't see a "coil 8" in the drawings I'm referencing on the MK 1 so I was guessing it was in the patent.

    Any help greatly appreciated.

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  • GSM
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    Originally posted by thx1138 View Post
    I can't locate any patents under Hendershot's name. Can someone provide a link or reference, please? Did I miss it in an earlier post?
    I am not aware of Patent application procedures being fully completed before Lester was hospitalised in March 1928 following an 'electric shock' whilst demonstrating his equipment at the Patent Office ?

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