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  • Hi pjotterkjen.

    When I started this thread I really thought that I would be able to unravel the Hendershot designs, but the more I have studied them, the more I have realised that things written and stated simply cannot be either true or 100% explanatory. Then after understanding these aspects there is so little information left upon which to follow.

    In the Mk1/2, Lester's original 008-9 basket coils are very closely coupled and thus act together, likely with opposite phased outputs, and sitting above a loudspeaker type ring magnet ? (Major Lanphier.)
    Is there a clear statement anywhere relating to the type of wire used ?
    Could it have been iron wire ? Magnet alignment could arrange for the windings themselves to retain a small magnetic bias about which a half wave conduction could be resonated into full wave output.
    In the Mk3 each coil had its own core with fields that could non-linearly flip-flop without being tied to be oppositely phased mirror images, for closely coupled coils as in the Mk1/2 can limit what either one might do alone on its own core as in the Mk3.

    The only aspect of Lester's generators I can fully understand him using is his Mk3 magnetic resonators, though even here I have come to understand that he could have achieved much greater efficiency with these himself had he been aware of Wesley Gary's final mechanical arrangement.

    Pjotterkjen, we could all ramble on a bit, just for fun, and we could even explain our perceptions until we die of old age, but would any of this lead to us personally repeating the energy generation demonstrated by Lester so long ago.

    I am not saying that no one will ever manage to bring a Hendershot Generator back to life, but I have studied his design for almost 3 years and now conclude that it will not be me who achieves this.
    The reason;- I have hands-on checked the operating principles of Wesley Gary's final design, and found it to be a fully valid generating arrangement (as with Hendershot's Mk3 buzzer), so this is where my 'free-energy' attention will now become focussed, whilst also keeping an eye on the more advanced developments here;-
    http://www.energeticforum.com/renewa...tml#post247893

    Cheers ............. Graham.
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    Last edited by GSM; 01-01-2014, 10:36 PM.

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    • The journey will continue

      Originally posted by GSM View Post

      In the Mk1/2, Lester's original 008-9 basket coils are very closely coupled and thus act together, likely with opposite phased outputs, and sitting above a loudspeaker type ring magnet ? (Major Lanphier.)
      According to what I read in the article, the coils #008 a/b were cross-wound *around* this ring magnet. I think this magnet ring should be included in the design. The weird thing it is not mentioned once in the patent, but I'm sure that must have a reasonable explanation. If you read the claims they all differ at some point, and besides it was still a draft and it is clear the draftsman still had a lot of questions that had to be answered by Hendershot (and who knows if he ever did?).

      Lanphier also commented that another "set of coils" were inside this ring magnet. He must have referred to coils #013 and #014 together with coil #029 (replacement of coil #006 in MK2).

      Then there's core #003. The patent does not say what material it is made of, but it mentions it is "soldered to a set of transformer plates #018". Also the "magnetic extension #002" (later called 'resonator') of the collector #001 which is just a small metallic plate, is placed so that it is in attraction mode to the core #003. Besides this we know the extension or resonator #002 will be oscillating so it must be attracted by core #003 but also repelled repeatedly. So this core #003 must be of soft iron, and becomes an 'oscillating magnet' through the signal on coil #004. This signal is picked up by the two coils #013 and #014. Whatever this signal was, it must have been the lower frequencies the same way the buzzer works in the MK3 design. I'm still of the opinion that this part of the device's purpose was to generate an audible signal and nothing else.

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      • We owe it to Hendershot to unite forces and continue

        Originally posted by GSM View Post

        Pjotterkjen, we could all ramble on a bit, just for fun, and we could even explain our perceptions until we die of old age, but would any of this lead to us personally repeating the energy generation demonstrated by Lester so long ago.

        I am not saying that no one will ever manage to bring a Hendershot Generator back to life, but I have studied his design for almost 3 years and now conclude that it will not be me who achieves this.

        The reason;- I have hands-on checked the operating principles of Wesley Gary's final design, and found it to be a fully valid generating arrangement (as with Hendershot's Mk3 buzzer), so this is where my 'free-energy' attention will now become focussed, whilst also keeping an eye on the more advanced developments here;-
        Three years is a lot of time - I admit much longer than myself, I'm only studying Hendershot for 3 months now - but I do wonder did you ever build a version of Hendershot? If so which one, and did you publish your findings, even the minor ones?

        I have read quite a lot about inventions and seen a lot of videos since I heard about free energy back in 2005, but the Hendershot story simply took a hold of me. Since as we know, if you want to really succeed in something you have to focus on it with all that you have inside you, and stay focussed on it. Hendershot was that kind of man. Nothing magical I'd say but his passion did give him something much more valuable than any theoretical insight: hand-on experience. He knew what to do almost by instinct.

        Until now there's only mikec_ut that has published a MK1 version that really looks promising. But it still lacks improvements like the ring magnet. He should be working on it right now, but it's almost a year ago he built the device. I just hope he comes with preliminar results any time soon now. His decision to start from the beginning has made me decide to follow.

        I've read and seen MK3 built by Germans. They are great builders but try to explain the device too much from a theoretical point of view, at least that's how I see it. They forget that Hendershot was not a theorist but liked to fiddle with all those components. Who knows how may hours he has spent in his basement to find out how to improve on the earth inductor compass, and then stumbled upon a way to generate free energy?

        The same way we must do as Hendershot did. We must be practical and build stuff. The time to theorize on the MK devices is useless if that what we know is not what the devices have been. Important details are missing. We only can find these missing pieces when we take the same route Hendershot did, using the same approach and passion he had.

        So Graham, of course I don't mind you focus on some other aspect, but do not abandon this thread as more interesting results are bound to appear if we all focus on the same thing, build, and publish our results.

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        • Originally posted by pjotterkjen View Post

          Lanphier also commented that another "set of coils" were inside this ring magnet. He must have referred to coils #013 and #014 together with coil #029 (replacement of coil #006 in MK2).
          My thoughts are that a coil fully inside of a ring magnet will become completely polarised by same unless the magnet is weaker or well air gapped; thus I imagine the magnet externally offset and close to one end of the coil.
          Maybe the ring could be in an operating position from which it was easily removeable from a completed construction so that no-one could thereafter figure out how the device worked.

          In this regard I wonder if the other side of Lester's wooden Mk3 baseboards were routed beneath his core assemblies such that magnets inserted out of sight could set up an activateable/reversible electron spin orbit alignment within each of the sleeve cores ?

          Cheers ............... Graham.

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          • Hendershot Patent

            I can't locate any patents under Hendershot's name. Can someone provide a link or reference, please? Did I miss it in an earlier post?

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            • Originally posted by thx1138 View Post
              I can't locate any patents under Hendershot's name. Can someone provide a link or reference, please? Did I miss it in an earlier post?
              I am not aware of Patent application procedures being fully completed before Lester was hospitalised in March 1928 following an 'electric shock' whilst demonstrating his equipment at the Patent Office ?

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              • Patent application

                Originally posted by GSM View Post
                I am not aware of Patent application procedures being fully completed before Lester was hospitalised in March 1928 following an 'electric shock' whilst demonstrating his equipment at the Patent Office ?
                That would explain why I can't find anything on the web. So what is the patent that is being talked about in this thread? Is it the partially completed application? Do you have the name of the document and/or a link?

                The reason I'm asking is that I don't see a "coil 8" in the drawings I'm referencing on the MK 1 so I was guessing it was in the patent.

                Any help greatly appreciated.

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                • Originally posted by thx1138 View Post

                  The reason I'm asking is that I don't see a "coil 8" in the drawings I'm referencing on the MK 1 so I was guessing it was in the patent.

                  Any help greatly appreciated.
                  On pages 22+23 of the Adobe reader: The honeycombe coils shown in 'The HendershotMystery.pdf' were 8A and 8B.
                  Maybe together they were the vertical axis "coil 8" assembly.
                  This were pages bearing printed numbers 18+19.

                  Aha - there is a magnet inside coil 6 within coils 8A+8B !!!

                  Cheers ............. Graham.

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                  • Originally posted by thx1138 View Post
                    So what is the patent that is being talked about in this thread? Is it the partially completed application? Do you have the name of the document and/or a link?
                    .
                    The Patent related texts are on Adobe pages 32>35 of -
                    From_The_Archives_Of_Lester_J._Hendershot.pdf
                    The text page numbers are 20>23.

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                    • correction patent -> draft patent

                      Originally posted by GSM View Post

                      The Patent related texts are on Adobe pages 32>35 of -
                      From_The_Archives_Of_Lester_J._Hendershot.pdf
                      The text page numbers are 20>23.
                      Yes, sorry for the confusion, I was talking about the partially completed application (the draft patent) that sadly never made it to be an accepted US patent.

                      The document mentioned by Graham is the 54 page PDF published by Hendershot's son Mark, but it is also mentioned (AND analyzed very well) in the 140 page PDF "The Hendershot Mystery" (Appendix D).

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                      • Other Hendershot thread

                        Although not an active thread anymore it is well worthy to read up:
                        http://www.energeticforum.com/renewa...lications.html

                        I'm still hoping morpher44 returns to continue his interesting tests!

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                        • unravel the real Hendershot story

                          Some Qs for anyone that considers him/herself to be a serious Hendershot replicator and inventor...

                          Have you ever considered the Hendershot MK1/2 1928 (free energy device in a model airplane) design, with a ring magnet inside coil 8a/b?

                          Have you ever thought about how Hendershot while testing and fiddling might have com to the MK3 designs through the earth inductor compass and the MK1/2 devices?

                          Regarding the last Q, I'm trying to link these three devices together and could well use some professional and practical insight, so no theory just the practical facts and evolution of components.

                          One example is the evolution of the collector, another is the resonator development, and another is the development of the two 'capcoils' of the MK3 designs... I see some pretty clever evolution in each device and am trying to link them into one story.

                          I'm sure this will help us reconstruct the Hendershot FE Generator.

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                          • Originally posted by pjotterkjen View Post
                            Some Qs for anyone that considers him/herself to be a serious Hendershot replicator and inventor...
                            Have you ever considered the Hendershot MK1/2 1928 (free energy device in a model airplane) design, with a ring magnet inside coil 8a/b?
                            Not before this week - and yes - this could be the gamechanger - especially with the Mk3.

                            Why was Lester's radio demo Mk3 generator board raised at an angle ?
                            As I questioned via my 27th Dec post here - because he used Ring magnets beneath the sleeve cores, with these magnets concealed by that baseboard construction, or a table cloth, possibly in the other 'working' photograph ?

                            The lore was that only Hendershot could tune up his Mk3 generators.

                            Yet maybe Lester used ring magnets beneath constructions and tablecloths thus ensuring controlled situation demo successes, and thus he had absolutely no concerns about letting others handle his constructions or even take them away and copy them because he knew that other 'experts' would NEVER get them running without the ring magnets they did not get !!!

                            In this thread I had covered/ investigated every method I could conceive capable of generating excess energy, but not the possibility of concealed magnets beneath the cores. I even covered the possibility of energised electron orbit induced atomic transformations releasing energy, and whilst I think that this still occurs, I believe it to be a deleterious aspect capable of damaging the sleeve core and compromising both efficiency and tuning.

                            There is another factor relating to my reply here, and this relates to me separately hands-on investigating the fully Patented Wesley Gary magnetic generator back in Sept/Oct-2013, and me finding that effortless electrical generation does arise exactly as Wesley reported, also as had been independently witnessed and reported at that time.

                            http://www.energeticforum.com/attach...ry80739563.pdf

                            Yes - Wesley Gary's invention was then, as it remains today, a fully functional stand alone magnetic energy generator, and given that I had had success with it on a principled basis, yet NOT with any understanding of the Hendershot generator capable of leading to a functional construction, I had already decided that this would be where my future investigative efforts would become concentrated.
                            This decision has not changed, because Wesley's arrangement could be rendered completely motionless, exactly as were Hendershot' twin cores.

                            I now see that Hendershot, by using capacitor phased windings over his sleeve core fed by the central magnetic oscillator arrangement, modified the already polarised field within that sleeve core, after their fields had been axially aligned close to (above) a ring magnet.

                            Thus Lester Hendershot had independently ended up with an electromagnetic configuration very similar to that of Wesley Gary's, however, where Gary had transduced output from relatively low frequency mechanical magnetic alternation via overwinding a straight armature, Hendershot had transduced at a higher frequency via his circular static 'armature' core overwinds energised in a push-pull arangement via the central mechanically vibrating 'timer'.

                            Where in his Mk1 Hendershot had used the Earth's magnetic field to empower his son's aeroplane, and in the Mk2 a permanent magnet - in his Mk3 - I can visualise three magnets in total.

                            Also, where one Mk3 sleeve core provides not only an output to the load, it also provides input to the other core in order to maintain the continuous operation -
                            and all of this decades prior to the invention of modern day electronic semiconductor switching circuit capabilities (which digitised our mindsets).

                            Now Duncan is covering the Steven Mark TPU,
                            http://www.energeticforum.com/renewa...ad.php?t=16424
                            this being a circular arrangement of the Wesley Gary and Lester Hendershot equipments, where it is the suddenly induced field reversals within an iron ring core which may be transduced to generate electricity anywhere.

                            Wesley Gary's device had field alternation via a single moving core.
                            Lester Hendershot synchronised individual flip-flop like alternations between twin but separate static cores, though with moving timer armature.
                            Steven Mark appears to have fully stationary segmented and dual synchronised flip-flop alternations around a single circular construction.

                            However, the Wesley Gary arrangement remains my favourite because it is simple, will not overheat through hysteresis losses (Hendershot), and does not require any electronic circuitry (Steven Mark).
                            Indeed, if provided with basic electronic circuitry a Wesley Gary generator could be rendered not only more powerful but also completely motionless, plus non-hazardous and electromagnetically silent (unlike Kapanadze type generating equipments).

                            It is the sudden and transducible series-parallel field reversals within and through an iron based medium we need to visualise, whether these reversals are motionally or electrically induced within an armature, a sleeve, or a circular core.

                            Wesley Gary Neutral Zone - Video Dailymotion
                            The secret of magnetic motors - YouTube

                            Cheers ................ Graham.
                            Last edited by GSM; 01-03-2014, 10:19 AM.

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                            • Mk III control circuity

                              I have been thinking about moving on to other projects also but these latest ideas may keep me focused on this one a while longer.

                              After examining the Mk III circuit for some time my problem comes down to circuit control. If, indeed, the circuit builds up energy then what keeps it from burning itself up? I pretty well understand the function of the clapper at the U magnet, the push-pull aspect of the circuit, and that the load dissipating the electrical energy. But does that mean that the entire device must be built specifically to the load to keep it from self destructing? If the light bulb were removed wouldn't it burn itself up or is the light bulb the "fuse" so to speak? If that's the case then a varying load wouldn't be usable in this circuit would it?

                              The only thing I see as a contolling feature other than the clapper is the transformers which are specified as "Vertical Oscillator Type". As GSM noted they would be of E/I construction with a gap between the E and I section which would, to some extent, control saturation.

                              What I noticed in the Hendershot, Gary, Duncan, and the last video in GSM's last post is the gap between the magnets.

                              As noted in earlier posts it was said that there was a ring magnet in the Hendershot device but ring magnets can be polarised in different orientations, i.e. top to bottom of through the circumference. It makes sense to me that it would be through the circumference and also that, if that is the case, the gaps between segments as shown in Duncan's drawing are critical to the device functioning. Consider if only the two output sections of Duncan's device were magnets and the input segments were ferrites oscillated by the input circuit. Thoughts anyone?

                              I guess my real problem with the Hendershot Mk III device at this point is spending $500 to possibly light a 60 watt light bulb. Assuming it could be made to work and the light bulb were lit 8 hours a day it would take somewhere around 15 years to pay for itself.

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                              • Originally posted by thx1138 View Post
                                If, indeed, the circuit builds up energy then what keeps it from burning itself up?

                                What I noticed in the.......... the last video in GSM's last post is the gap between the magnets.

                                I guess my real problem with the Hendershot Mk III device at this point is spending $500 to possibly light a 60 watt light bulb.
                                Hi thx1138.

                                Your thoughts are like mine.
                                Good first question. Mk3 burn-ups were a problem after long runs.

                                That last video. Imagine that armature expanded widthwise until it turned into a sleeve core, and the single magnet pole following it as a circular loudspeaker type magnet.
                                Also you mention the gaps - essential for energetic polarity flips.

                                Then your last comment - does that not say it all in regard to the Hendershot generator, for a Wesley Gary equivalent using neodi magnets on an iron bar could be constructed for less than $50 !!!!!

                                The main advantage of the Wesley Gary device that I have noted is that it is quite literally input force neutral when attraction forces are spring neutralised about the 'neutral zone' (NO equal but opposite resistance forces whilst generating electric current), and thus this is where my hands-on efforts will continue.
                                (Not on the over complex TPU either.)

                                Cheers ................. Graham.
                                Last edited by GSM; 01-03-2014, 09:33 PM.

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