Mr Lester J Hendershot's magnetic generator.

[pjotterkjen]

some remarks

Not before this week - and yes - this could be the gamechanger - especially with the Mk3.

Why was Lester's radio demo Mk3 generator board raised at an angle ?
As I questioned via my 27th Dec post here - because he used Ring magnets beneath the sleeve cores, with these magnets concealed by that baseboard construction, or a table cloth, possibly in the other 'working' photograph ?

The lore was that only Hendershot could tune up his Mk3 generators.

Yet maybe Lester used ring magnets beneath constructions and tablecloths thus ensuring controlled situation demo successes, and thus he had absolutely no concerns about letting others handle his constructions or even take them away and copy them because he knew that other 'experts' would NEVER get them running without the ring magnets they did not get !!!

I agree the ring magnet could well make the difference in the working of the MK1/2 device. But only bench tests will let us find out. Other details may be missing too in the draft patent... we'll see.

About the MK3 (device design of the late 50's) and the possibility of two hidden ring magnets that were extended by the core sleeves, yes it is a possibility, given the fact that Hendershot was threatened in 1928 and thus had become very careful not to disclose the mayor secret(s) of his device, but as an inventor still wanted to pass his invention on to humanity and be rewarded for it. For this reason I'm not trying to replicate this design (yet).

So in the end, while I'm still reading up on other devices as well, I think the MK1 device is sufficiently documented to be able to replicate. I'm going to concentrate my energy and time on the collector/resonator circuit to find out why Hendershot had built it like that. I admit I'll need to return to being an analog thinker and fiddler and immerse myself in the magic world of magnetism, induction coupling, resonance, and other related stuff.

[pjotterkjen]

Replication Wesley Gary & results

There is another factor relating to my reply here, and this relates to me separately hands-on investigating the fully Patented Wesley Gary magnetic generator back in Sept/Oct-2013, and me finding that effortless electrical generation does arise exactly as Wesley reported, also as had been independently witnessed and reported at that time.

Graham, can you point me to any of your (or anyone else's) published builds from Wesley Gary?

I have read the page on rexresearch but did not intend to replicate at the time.

Now seeing more clearly the relation of a possible resonance in the Hendershot devices around the neutral line Gary discovered and polarity change, together this might well bring us closer to unravel the MK1 mysteries...!

[thx1138]

A point to ponder

How would ring magnets (or any other shape for that matter) under the Mk III cap/coil sleeves affect the transformers that were obviously sitting on top of them if they were in fact there? I don't know enough about magnetics to venture a guess.

[GSM]

Graham, can you point me to any of your (or anyone else's) published builds from Wesley Gary?

Hi pjotterkjen.

There are a few who have replicated Wesley's rocking magnet arrangements.
This is very difficult, especially to make a free running 'machine', and although possible, it quickly becomes obvious to anyone who tries this (me included), that it is also pretty pointless.

In the Dailymotion video I linked, that neutral zone effect demonstration was using a pathetic magnet (paperclip strength) creating field reversals within an ordinary transistor radio ferrite rod antenna, this because I needed to get the compass away from the nearest magnet pole.

That same mechanically *effortless* core field reversal as demonstrated occurs in relay/transformer type cores as well, whereby even the very *slowest* of physical movements will pulse illuminate LEDS connected to an overwind because the reversal within the metal occurs at its own independently fast and core molecule related speed, yet with a pulse output completion time period also separately related to the over-winding inductance.
So it is not just the existence of Wesley Gary's 'neutral zone' that is important, nor the lack of mechanical effort necessary in order to induce a neutral zone related core field reversal, but the high speed of the field reversal within the core, this being quite independent of the mechanical (or electrical) inducement initiating that field reversal itself, and requiring a load related over-wind inductance capable of optimising output for whatever reversing frequency is intended.

Getting back to your question about videos etc. of Wesley's generator - I am not aware of anything on the Internet in relation to this, and I most certainly will NOT be uploading anything in this regard either.

Cheers ............... Graham.

[GSM]

How would ring magnets (or any other shape for that matter) under the Mk III cap/coil sleeves affect the transformers that were obviously sitting on top of them if they were in fact there? I don't know enough about magnetics to venture a guess.

Physically align the sleeve to be set just beyond or within ITS neutral zone field intensity distance w.r.t. the magnet's static field when the sleeve is additionally pulsed with an external winding induced field.
Sorry - I was talking about the tin etc. coil sleeve there, you asked about the transformers being affected - they won't be.

[zapzap]

Wesley Gary replication, et?

This guy claims to have "replicated" it: IceStuff.com: THE INTERFERENCE DISK ELECTRIC GENERATOR BY ALAN L FRANCOEUR from The Encyclopedia of free energy,energy21.org,energy 21 org Geoff Egel

"I have also replicated the Gary W. Wesley permanent magnet motor from 1879, the magnet motor does seem to produce over unity but it is not connected as a self-runner yet. The neutral zone that Gary W. Wesley talked about is real and it does by pass back EMF. I felt it is worthy of reproducing this interesting device for it is related to the Interference Disc Generator that I constructed many years ago, which also by passes the back EMF."

There is some additional material that might be of interest - and use?

[thx1138]

Wesley Gary device

Graham, can you point me to any of your (or anyone else's) published builds from Wesley Gary?

Al Francoeurs built one but not very well. It was, however, sufficient for his purposes. It led him to an idea for a Lenz-less generator. He has a system where both the coils and the magnets are stationary so there is no Lenz law effect and no need for brushes to capture the electricity. Between the coils and magnets, in the neutral zone, he rotates a plate with slots cut in the periphery that line up with the stationary coils/magnets. So rather than moving the magnet or the coil armature through the neutral zone he moves the plate which, when the plate is between the coil and magnet, blocks the magnetic field. When a slot in the rotating plate lines up with the fixed coil/magnet position the plate is no longer blocking the magnetic field so it pulses the coil and generates a current in same. It's not OU and it's not completely self-running but the motor he uses to spin the plate uses 15Amps ad 12 VDC and the device supplies 10 Amps of that so he's getting the same amount of work for 1/3 the price. I sure would like to accomplish that with my freaking air conditioner.

Overall, it's kind of like a rotary spark gap in that it produces "makes" and "breaks" but magnetic rather than electrical. Which gets me to thinking of "magnetic reconnection" again. Hmmm...

I think he did his work in the 70's so it could probably be improved with today's materials. I also don't know whether or not he was capturing both the forward and back EMF.

I didn't find any videos but I didn't do an extensive search. Here are a few links:
THE INTERFERENCE DISK ELECTRIC GENERATOR BY ALAN L FRANCOEUR from The Encyclopedia of free energy,energy21.org,energy 21 org Geoff Egel
Zero Point Energy - Francoeur Al - MDG 2007
http://www.free-energy-info.co.uk/Chapter1.pdf

You might also search for "John Ecklin’s Magnetic-Shielding Generator". It's also covered in that last link, above, as are quite a few others.

So what would we get if we used that rotating, slotted plate in place of the armature in Hendershot's circuit? Seems like it would be too slow to produce much power unless the horseshoe magnet and the "buzzer" coils were scaled up substantially. Francoeurs did, however, say that it runs almost silently.

[GSM]

Thank you for that excellent post txh1138.
You explained.
Magnets with cores+coils physically adjusted to be slightly closer to the magnets than is their neutral zone reversing position, then with a rotating plate repeatably reducing the field coupling such that the core fields will transducibly reverse plus reset on a cyclical basis. (Parallel to series and back to parallel field alignments.)
I cannot say anything less than - that was a very clever piece of equipment zapzap.

My thoughts were similar in that the Wesley Gary Generator could equally be made to operate without either moving the magnet or its armature, nor anything else moving either;-
ie. there is enough of a gap between a Gary type armature and the magnet polefaces after it has been adjusted to rest permanently closer than the armature's neutral zone position,
for additional turns of a separate and flat layer of spiral winding between each magnet-armature end,
to current energise two momentary single field decouplings capable of more efficiently causing the parallel>series>parallel armature field alternation,
as if the armature had been physically moved away from and then back towards its polarising magnet through its field neutral position.

Cheers ............. Graham.

[thx1138]

Synchronicity - it's everywhere

Thinking about Al Francoeurs' device I realised that it creates magnetic "makes" and "breaks" but that is not field reversal. So I looked at the link on Duncan's Christmas present about loud speakers and the voice coil and thinking about using that to pulse the armature back and forth.

It's not thought through all the way yet but somehow (using Duncan's H-bridge or maybe even just a frequency generator with somewhat high amplitude) attach the armature to the speaker cone and vibrate the speaker cone at 7.83Hz or an overtone of that such that the armature vibrates through the neutral zone at whatever frequency is chosen.

Researching that I went to this page about subwoofers:
Subwoofer - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Which led me to this page about "high-fidelity audio/visual reproduction standard for movie theaters".
THX - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
One of the standards is "THX" which is partially taken from movie "THX 1138" by George Lucas. It was the film he did before the first Star Wars movie and it's the basis of my handle. In the movie the protagonist breaks the chains of the totally controlled society in which he lives and attains a degree or autonomy unheard of in his day - hence my use of the character's moniker. In the movie people don't have names - they have serial numbers and his is "THX 1138".

And that's where the synchronicity reared its head. I need you guys to keep an eye on me for a while. I may start jabbering in numerology just any minute, now. Or, God forbid, string theory. They seem to be closely related.

Still, the subwoofer driver sounds like an idea - maybe remove portions of the cone so it doesn't actually make sound. I mean my house isn't nearly as strong as the Walls of Jericho and it's all I've got. Not to mention what loud subwoofer bass pounding string theory numbers around inside my garage while I'm jabbering numerology might do! I'm not sure what the safety procedures are for that circumstance but it probably involves a nap.

Edit: Save those old hard disk drives. They use neodymium magnets and voice coils to actuate the read/write head arm. Haven't yet figured out how to use the actuator arm to oscillate a armature but all of the pieces are right there in a hard drive. How to remove the magnet from it's backing plate:
How to Remove a Neodymium Hard Drive Magenet From It's Bracket - YouTube\

It works fine on the 4 I've done so far. The magnets are magnetized through the circumference so have north pole on one end and south pole on the other. Maybe stack the magnets to make the horseshoe magnet. They apparently have 60 degrees of arc so 3 arcs will make 180 degrees. Stack them 4 or 5 high and, wa la, a neodymium horseshoe magnet.

[GSM]

Hi thx1138.

Talking about bass has nothing to do with this. Nor synchronicity; nor Aether etc.
My detached neighbour used to feel my stereo bass through his bum sitting 40ft away on his concrete doorstep. I shattered all the already wallpapered plasterboard joins in my lounge ceiling. Sub-bass - a long past experience here.

Please - will you get yourself a horseshoe magnet and then *hands-on* repeat my Wesley Gary demo Dailymotion video with a ferrite rod and compass.

Wesley Gary Neutral Zone - Video Dailymotion

Then upgrade to a power horseshoe magnet, or a lesser one with a neodi on each polar limb or neodis on each end of an iron/steel bar; plus an overwound core wired to reverse connected LEDs.
Even a large old fashioned relay core/coil will work if removed from its rear backing and armature.
Also possible to work would be the 'I' part of an 'E-I' transformer core with its winding slid over the 'I' section.

Do this just once and you WILL be heading in a different direction without ever looking back.

Please ................ just give it a try ..................

Cheers ......... Graham.

[GSM]

It would be remiss of me not to enter here information I placed in Morpher's Hendershot thread;-

http://www.energeticforum.com/renewa...tml#post248142

Cheers .................. Graham.

[GSM]

Hello Graham,
The heavenly intervention?
Gee, you sound just like me!

When I saw that meticulous Hendershot replication I just had to reply.

See my picture response to Wolf.
His own link failed to illustrate the centre twin coils with magnetic coupling.

I downloaded an article with several other pics like that, and some are already in the other Hendershot thread I started, but I cannot find that file still published anywhere on the Internet.
The photos were amongst Dutch and English texts, and went by Internet file names of;-
"dHendershot in Farbe" .... also .... "Hendershot in Farbe".

Sadly my EnergeticForum allowance for uploads is near full and the file size is 3.7MB so no way I can upload.

After re-studying the pics it even looks possible that each core-cap-coil assembly could have a third connection at the bottom ? !

There was a comment that Lester used a separate hook-up wire to get his generator going, so was it somehow connected to these unmentioned terminations.

Thankyou for your Post as you have highlighted certain organisations that I have also been messing with.
'The FS Loop' looks interesting as a Moray 'front-end' and interested in your other Antennas as well.
Interesting that you mention the signal from New Zealand being the loudest or easiest to receive.
Perhaps this is due to the fact that they are sitting right along a Tectonic Plate just as you are in Washington State and hints of a Telluric association - this from Eric Dollard on the RCA Bolinas antenna site.

That was MW DXer extroadinary - Gary deBock in the video.
I live in Northern Ireland just outside Belfast.

Have been collecting TV neck Ferrites here as they have been used in the 'DLRainmakers' and also have them inside a Caduceus wire wrapped device called a TEG (Torsion Energy Generator) which was one of the devices I built as a one off and came out with all sorts of wierd phenomena, none of which I understood at the time - 'one-wire electricity' and 'cold electricity' to name just two.
What is it that you have packed in the centre of your Coil?
Have you considered a Caduceus wrap on your Inductor with a crossing angle of 22.5º and this from George Van Tassel via Eric Dollard?

The FS Loops have but air or plastic foam in their centres.

Reading quickly your article and I see you also have recognised the ability of a Ferrite as some sort of 'collector'.
Not going to go into the Aether bit here as this is probably not what it should be called and we need to recognise more the 'Counterspace' phenomena where we are working in another dimension just as our Sun is and probably Jupiter too (nothing Nuclear here either).
I also use Ferrite Flybacks here in high voltage work and have also noted some strange phenomena with respect to remanance and note that they use a 1mm gap but not for here just now.

'Aether' .. 'Counterspace' .. no matter what name
in that nothing happens in isolation -
always an equal but opposite reaction/response through space -
whether radial or directional in action -

but that term 'Aether' is by those who were lost for explanation of electromagnetic radiation, and because the 'teachers' do not want to reveal the Truth, the public is still being technically etherised.

Reread Wesley Gary's Magnetic Motor and feel there to be a new understanding of how the device operates and most probably what Hendershot is also using as the BASE GENERATOR for developing a voltage and by nature of the organisation used, would be a reversing DC.
Looking for another word to describe this basic or beginning function.
The New York Times extract made me look differently at the entire construction of the device.
OK so this explains why it is not a voltage induced from outside but is developed by crossing the magnetic 'neutral zone'.

I had that NY Times article copied on my computer.
Don't see it on the 'net now ?

Can see why this has not been attempted as a replication as the thin horse-shoe magnets would be a difficult find today.
That being said I have here an Ericcson Magneto with thinner magnets and may pull that apart and conduct some experiments - the Western Electric also here are much thicker.
Will put up some more pictures as I think this is helping others in their own mind development of the devices we mention here.
In fact, I have already been asked to do just that and probably now understand the problem as below.

I got a wake-up call this morning from one of my other Forums and the person said simply that most people do not think they have the ability to proceed with any of these devices as they are lacking in build confidence.
This is one ability that has been taken away by the use of Computers where most young people only feel comfortable behind a keyboard and what a young person used to work on, like a car for example, has been taken away by 'progress' OR, they don't want you working on your car as you might just be able to get more MPG than designed - it's called control!
1986 Toyota Seca Hatchback - 35mpg, when I had finished I was getting 49.5 mpg - that's what you are missing!

OK, so in summary, will start a Wesley replication as that is what is missing and needs to be working and understood.
Will get back when I have read your material fully and greatly appreciate the information.
Thanks.

Smokey

Yes David. We have generations following us who have been dumbed down by technological progress, highly controlled primary education and a tax system making employable adults so busy that young minds no longer receive adequate guidance and inspiration.

Thank you very much for your reply.

It is only when the magnetic field reversal fundamentals employed by Wesley Gary's type of generator are witnessed, that the necessary changes in mindset can begin to overcome those firmly already imprinted within us via 'peer' regulated 'education'.

As a next step, please try as I have implored thx1138 to do here -
http://www.energeticforum.com/renewa...tml#post248129

that energy does NOT come out of any Aether .................

Very Best Wishes ........... Graham.
.

[thx1138]

Maybe NOT phone _ringer_ coils

Antique Telephone History Website

[Dave45]

Antique Telephone History Website

Thats cool they could be oscillated with an external low power circuit,


just to vibrate the system. Has anyone tried winding the basket coils in opposite directions, then they could bounce a signal back and forth.

[thx1138]

Use an H-Bridge

Thats cool they could be oscillated with an external low power circuit, just to vibrate the system. Has anyone tried winding the basket coils in opposite directions, then they could bounce a signal back and forth.

An H-Bridge would be much better. You want a reversal of current not just an on/off. Note that both outputs of your circuit only return to zero and they both occur at the same time.

That reversal of field is what is missing in the magnetic machines that only block the magnetic field. They are only, so to speak, turning the magnetic field on and off while what is needed is a complete reversal implemented with reversal times as fast as possible, i.e. not a gradual reversal but as near instantaneous as possible. That's where the earlier post on loud speakers comes into play - the cores in the coils need to have as little hysteresis as possible at high frequencies and that is a facet of speaker voice coils. So the material chosen for the Hendershot "buzzer" coil cores, while almost immaterial in the coin chute telephone application, is critical for this application.