Tesla Science Center at Wardenclyffe deal Struck

[RAMSET]

Thanks for the responce Dave

Dave
Not being familiar with Erics expectations makes it hard to
Discuss certain things.
Your post went a long way towards Clearing some things up.

Personally I feel the requirements on the Wardenclyffe end for housing transportation etc etc can be left out of the discussion for the time being.[no real problem there].

I do admire Erics respect for the corolla ,and understand how he feels about it,....I'm sure if this goes all the way ,he'll have that loyal steed at his side in NY [delivered from the west coast with a round trip aggreement].

This community has many many resources that will come to bare
should need be.

Eric Steers a big ship [He just doesn't know it yet].

More discussion is obviously going to be required.

I will continue to gather info while you fellahs discuss the possibilities.

Thx
Chet

[dR-Green]

He is rather disappointed that so little manifested from his presence on the forum.

It's not easy putting it into practice with the TMT and figuring out the concatenated mode! The more tests I do the more confusing things it uncovers, at this stage I believe the design needs a new secondary coil. I haven't even started the tests with the 3rd new extra coil because I already know the frequency is (too) high, so I've spent the last few weeks contemplating the whole thing and going over Eric's info from the start. The only conclusion I can come to so far based on experimental evidence is that the secondary frequency is much too high for a 124%-129% luminal extra coil. Eric compensated for the velocity factor by reducing the secondary wire length, which was before we confirmed that the extra coil also raises its frequency, so I guess that means more secondaries will have to be built and tested with this in mind. But by how much is the frequency raised and how much compensation do we need I think it would be good for the benefit of all humanity, and me, if more people paid attention to Eric and were working on the same problems

[Web000x]

@dR-Green,

He isn't upset about the lack of experimentation into his presented concepts but rather about the fact that so little was given to him in return. All that he really wanted out of the situation was that somebody look into suing Olen Bales. You can see this clearly stated back in 2011 when he first started posting. Obviously nothing ever happened to Olen...

Dave

[Sputins]

1,000,000Kms!

As far as the history of Eric Dollard goes, Techzombie put together a very good article highlighting some of Eric accomplishments. There are some details that aren't quite correct, but most of them are too small to worry about. The meat of the matter is good. Tesla Round 2, The Case of Eric Dollard However, it should be pointed out that the author equates volts to power, these mistakes don't build a good case. I think that the paper needs to be reviewed by a couple of engineers that have studied Eric's writings to make sure that the inconsistencies are ironed out. I'm sure that techzombie wouldn't have a problem making some edits.

Chet, I think you should use this article in your case with Eric becoming involved in Wardynclyff, but make sure that you point out that it is NOT Eric's interpretation of his works but somebody elses. It is a very good intro for the layman.

I don't think Eric is opposed to flying. However selling his Corolla is out of the equation. He'd probably lose his mind over the idea of even being presented. His car means a lot to him since he sees it as an engineering accomplishment and not just another expendable piece of junk to be thrown away and replace with new. Did you know that his car has 600,000 miles on it? That's impressive... To answer your other question, I believe very much so that his car would make it from California to New York. He takes very good care of it.

While Eric is the most appropriate person to be involved in the up and coming Wardynlclyff Museum, don't count on him changing any part of his personality for it. It seems to me that it will be an all or nothing deal. Either they get Eric's help and let him build something that works or they don't. Eric doesn't hold the Tesla mystique as high as others might so if they don't let him build anything that accurately portrays Tesla Technology, he will say to hell with the museum and continue on his merry way doing what he was doing before. And good luck trying to get Eric to live in NY, he seems to want to be very mobile these days and not tied down to any particular location.

I really appreciate everybody inputting idea's towards Eric's involvement. He is rather disappointed that so little manifested from his presence on the forum. Let's show him what can happen when a few people get motivated. Let's get Tesla back!

Thank you all,

Dave

Yeah ok, I know his Corolla is very important to him, but I didn’t know that it was quite that special! 600,000 miles wow! That’s nearly 1 million kilometres!! (965400kms). Toyota should give him a prize! Very impressive! Forget any idea of selling - okay. (Who would want to buy it with that sort of mileage anyway?! haha) – I understand his notion of not throwing things away like expendable pieces of junk, too much of that happens these days.

I wouldn’t think that Eric would want to live in NY as such, I know Long Island is heavily populated, would there be some refuge among the state parks, reserves etc.? (Away from humans) I don’t know. However being mobile would be advantageous, so maybe he would drive over? Or be given a loan car if he flew over.

No, I don’t think anyone could change Eric’s ideology or personality, (or would want to). So those poor people at the Tesla Science Centre may need to duck for cover! Haha, Somehow they will need to let Eric have his way with whatever real working device or project he is involved with, part-of or leads. (‘Eric’ name means ‘Honorable Ruler’).

Perhaps a letter or email to Marc Seifer: mseifer@verizon.net in order to seek his advice or opinion on this. (I know he isn’t the President or anything but he’s involved so he might have some knowledge or ideas of what could be done. – float the idea)?

[RAMSET]

Read between the lines

Dave
As a community we can not expect Eric to help us here and not give back.
Asking him to uproot his life and go back to work ,with out addressing this very important issue would not be right.

If this has been discussed or addressed here [going to bat for Eric]
and conclusions were made ................?

First things first!!

I sent you a PM
Thx
Chet
PS
Sputins
would a house boat in a beautiful spot a few miles from the site do??
Its a small humble craft in a very protected cove with a breathtaking private view.

[zapzap]

The legal system? Okay, try this:

@dR-Green,

He isn't upset about the lack of experimentation into his presented concepts but rather about the fact that so little was given to him in return. All that he really wanted out of the situation was that somebody look into suing Olen Bales. You can see this clearly stated back in 2011 when he first started posting. Obviously nothing ever happened to Olen...

Dave

E.P.D. may not be wholly aware that, for starters, the current climate in the so-called judicial system is unbelievably corrupt when it comes to cases like his sounds like. But putting that aside, so let's say some Good Samaritan(s) would have agreed to foot the substantial legal fees for looking into and then taking on a case such as this, how about these issues? First, finding an at least somewhat honest attorney/law firm that would properly work with and represent E.P.D. and also not sell him out. Second, there are the legal hurtles to jump over such as limitations, standing, and God knows what else the other side (and judge) would bring up. Third, E.P.D. would face, both in writings and vocally, incredibly cruel and dishonest statements over a period of years. Along these lines he could easily have been required to go to one or more psychiatric evaluations – evaluations that would be funded by the other side... Fourth, more and more civil cases never make it in front of a jury – there are more and more ways a judge can derail the case before it even gets started… And then what? One route would be several years of wadding through the appeals process and perhaps several tens of thousands of dollars for that “honor”. And for what? Most appeals are ruled in favor of the lower court, especially in highly charged cases such as this one would be.

The potential legal end result? Not only a loss of the Plaintiff’s (E.P.D.) original suit but at the probability that a ruling that the Plaintiff would be liable for at least the other side’s attorney fees (including the appellate ones), and perhaps much more. Easily a $100,000 or much, much more wasted and the other side would be laughing even more due to the various finding that would be made by the court(s).

Which finally leads us to ponder what the effects (both short and long termed) of the meat grinding process that the legal process could be on the health of the apparently mercurial tempered E.P.D?

None of any of my comments are to be construed as legal advice in any manner, these comments are solely based on my personal observations and life experiences of how things can go in the courts. Oh I left out another very big hurtle for last: Lawyers make a hell of a lot more money for accepting and filing suit than "looking into" a case, so...

This is written for no other reason than to give some peace of mind to E.P.D. It is my honest opinion, nothing more.

[madhatter]

E.P.D. may not be wholly aware that, for starters, the current climate in the so-called judicial system is unbelievably corrupt when it comes to cases like his sounds like. But putting that aside, so let's say some Good Samaritan(s) would have agreed to foot the substantial legal fees for looking into and then taking on a case such as this, how about these issues? First, finding an at least somewhat honest attorney/law firm that would properly work with and represent E.P.D. and also not sell him out. Second, there are the legal hurtles to jump over such as limitations, standing, and God knows what else the other side (and judge) would bring up. Third, E.P.D. would face, both in writings and vocally, incredibly cruel and dishonest statements over a period of years. Along these lines he could easily have been required to go to one or more psychiatric evaluations – evaluations that would be funded by the other side... Fourth, more and more civil cases never make it in front of a jury – there are more and more ways a judge can derail the case before it even gets started… And then what? One route would be several years of wadding through the appeals process and perhaps several tens of thousands of dollars for that “honor”. And for what? Most appeals are ruled in favor of the lower court, especially in highly charged cases such as this one would be.

The potential legal end result? Not only a loss of the Plaintiff’s (E.P.D.) original suit but at the probability that a ruling that the Plaintiff would be liable for at least the other side’s attorney fees (including the appellate ones), and perhaps much more. Easily a $100,000 or much, much more wasted and the other side would be laughing even more due to the various finding that would be made by the court(s).

Which finally leads us to ponder what the effects (both short and long termed) of the meat grinding process that the legal process could be on the health of the apparently mercurial tempered E.P.D?

None of any of my comments are to be construed as legal advice in any manner, these comments are solely based on my personal observations and life experiences of how things can go in the courts. Oh I left out another very big hurtle for last: Lawyers make a hell of a lot more money for accepting and filing suit than "looking into" a case, so...

This is written for no other reason than to give some peace of mind to E.P.D. It is my honest opinion, nothing more.

Early on I contacted some attorney friends of mine and did some preliminary discovery on the land. long story short, the land was never in Erics' name, as such there is nowhere to go legally. Now if Eric could provide some sort of proof of residency, or paper work showing the land being transferred, gifted to him then it could open some avenues but it would have to be done by Eric. It sadly was a dead end, unless he had loads of money to pursue this the risk of being liable for the defendants costs is far to great. Civil law and cases are complex and expensive.

[RAMSET]

Land options

Madhatter
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Early on I contacted some attorney friends of mine and did some preliminary discovery on the land. long story short, the land was never in Erics' name,

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Sir
Very true what has been said here regarding Lawyers and costly litigation.With out proper paper work that would be a long and risky process,financially and emotionally taxing.

Can the land be purchased outright ?Is it very valuable land ?


Is that a possibility?[would the thought offend Eric?]

Thx
Chet

[Web000x]

Madhatter
Quote
Early on I contacted some attorney friends of mine and did some preliminary discovery on the land. long story short, the land was never in Erics' name,

--------------------
Sir
Very true what has been said here regarding Lawyers and costly litigation.With out proper paper work that would be a long and risky process,financially and emotionally taxing.

Can the land be purchased outright ?Is it very valuable land ?


Is that a possibility?[would the thought offend Eric?]

Thx
Chet

I believe that the land is up for sale, but there is nothing worth salvaging from it. I have seen the pictures that verify that most of the equipment racks have been dismantled and scrapped. Eric doesn't even want the land back. He just wants justice.

Dave

[mbrownn]

Its sad to hear about Eric's problems but we are getting a little off track I feel.

In what way can we assist the project at Wardenclyffe?

Yes Eric's presence would be very exciting but it isn't everything. We should not chew over Erics problems on a public forum especially as that does not help his case.

I took the liberty of emailing the Wardenclyffe people just to see what response I got.

From:
> Michael Brown
>
> Message:
> Hi, Just to let you know there is a discussion taking place on the
> energetic forum about your project.
>
> I thought you might find it informative as these people would likely
> be visitors to Wardenclyffe in the future. There are several
> interesting ideas that have been put forward and a clear willingness
> to help.
>
> Thanks for listening
>
> Mike Brown

The reply is as follows

Dear Michael,

Thanks for the information. I'll look into it, and see what is being talked about. We've been getting some great offers of help, and we're working on how to get people to share their energy and ideas so that we can make this the best museum/science center possible.

Best,
Jane Alcorn
President
TSC@W

What I read from this is that they do plan to involve real science and will require people to do it. What basis that will be done on I don't know.

Obviously Eric needs to be talking to them but so do we if we have something we are working on and are willing to share it.

[RAMSET]

Justice.....

Dave
Yes Justice is ultimately the goal........For justice we need Truth!
And that my friend is what this is all about ...the truth As it applies to Tesla ...as well as Eric.

This Wardenclyffe project has Justice written all over it,and Erics involvement could expedite that process greatly.

@Mike,
Not sure this particular resume was ready for scrutiny by the people at Wardenclyffe?

However I have been wrong before ..... Perhaps you can expound upon your plan ?

With all respect
Chet

[GSM]

A 'Tesla' assistant's job for Slider too ?

[RAMSET]

You noticed that......

Graham
I suppose you noticed the "relocating" Query to Slider?

Good talent is hard to come by and integrity even harder.......

Thx
Chet

[GSM]

Graham
I suppose you noticed the "relocating" Query to Slider?

Good talent is hard to come by and integrity even harder.......

Thx
Chet

No. ?

I wrote that because Slider is a most intuitive 'hands-on' kind of guy.
The sort of person you very rarely find by advertising and interviewing !

[mbrownn]

Dave


@Mike,
Not sure this particular resume was ready for scrutiny by the people at Wardenclyffe?

However I have been wrong before ..... Perhaps you can expound upon your plan ?

With all respect
Chet

I hear what you are saying, and hope that my enthusiasm has not worked against us but now the people there now know of the interest we have shown and will have heard the name Eric Dollard. I thought it better that they see it now as this thread is becoming more about Eric than Wardencliffe. I sent that email over a week ago when I mentioned about using emails as a sales tool. I agree that I should have asked before doing so, sorry guys.

I think we all wish Eric can be found a place there but threads like this can become a place where we go on too much about things that are irrelevant if you get my drift.

The main point is they will have heard the name and will maybe look at his work. Those that know Eric should encourage him to contact them as it is he the one who is best to represent himself.

I think we should concentrate on the good ideas and positive things we could do and have done here, the private nuances should be kept private and can be discussed using Private Messages.

A good example is when it was suggested a demonstration of Tesla technology be made to them and who is better than Eric to explain it. That in itself would be the best resume for Eric.

Have you had a chance to chat further with the people there?

I suspect that there timescale would be weeks or months before we see much happening there but we should be active now and not wait as the decisions will have been taken. I am sure that they will be inundated with well intentioned and capable people looking for a job and somehow they have to decide who to have.

We could ask them what their timescale is, what sort of people they are looking for and when.

From their email it looks as though they are looking for science projects to be shared with them. This will not be so easy as most keep their unique knowledge under wraps because of the fear that the ideas will be stolen. I am willing to share what I know about the lockridge but only once I have proved it.

I think we should ask them what is their timescale and what exactly do they need now.

what do you think?