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  • seaad
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    Impressive vids UFO, Thanks!

    Arne

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  • Ufopolitics
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    Originally posted by seaad View Post
    Hello bistander, UFO

    UFO: Its sad that "Virtual, Massless and transparent Field" is not a name of a drawing we just can follow!

    Regards / Arne

    What do you mean We don't have any drawings to follow?!

    Why do you think I have spent so much time putting together like seven (7) PLUS videos IN A ROW...full of Colorful 3D animated tracks just to show all those "drawings" about Magnetic Fields?

    As there are MANY REAL TESTS involved PROVING all those drawings on those videos!!

    UFOPOLITICS MAGNETISM

    Now, the fact you all want to keep ignoring them (as well as K. Wheeler Theories) does not make them-all the sudden- disappear ...they are all there, free to be watched.

    And so, keep using-entertaining all the old theories...that so far have not delivered what you all seeking for.

    It is entirely up to you.

    Ufopolitics
    Last edited by Ufopolitics; 11-28-2017, 02:13 PM.

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  • seaad
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    Hello bistander, UFO

    bi: Interpretation again then. Yours this time.
    My own interpretationin in #2599.
    But yours seem to be easier to solve?? So I think I take that instead.

    And about MM: Why boot, be banned? Just say I WAS WRONG! Simple. Not?

    I'm wrong all the time, especially with Figuera.

    UFO: Its sad that "Virtual, Massless and transparent Field" is not a name of a drawing we just can follow!

    Regards / Arne
    Last edited by seaad; 11-27-2017, 10:53 PM.

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  • bistander
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    My take

    Originally posted by seaad View Post
    ... "but in no case is there any communication between the induced coil and the inductor coil" ...
    My interpretation is that there is no galvanic or electrical connection between the induced coil and the inductor coil.

    bi

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  • Ufopolitics
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    Originally posted by seaad View Post
    Hi UFO
    I agree to all you say above, about patents.
    But in my thinking right now it seams to be: "my scam story" is hundred times heavier than your "the real way to make it happen successfully was never revealed"

    But it is your sentence: "the real way to make it happen successfully was never revealed" , pushing me, making me going on trying.
    Not that simple...

    Yes, there is a mix of scams like to make money from, plus including the same TPTB who also generates this scams, expose them to make less believers in FE...and so on and on...

    Originally posted by seaad View Post
    But my wrestling is about this red devil: "but in no case is there any communication between the induced coil and the inductor coil" (backwards) and at the same time deliver energy to " the induced".

    Regards / Arne
    Yeap, that is EXACTLY where just that "Virtual, Massless and transparent Field" moving between masses of copper and steel enters this game...making free energy, ou, or whatever you wanna call it...what brings this "magic"...


    Take care



    Ufopolitics
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  • seaad
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    Hi UFO
    I agree to all you say above, about patents.
    But in my thinking right now it seams to be: "my scam story" is hundred times heavier than your "the real way to make it happen successfully was never revealed"

    But it is your sentence: "the real way to make it happen successfully was never revealed" , pushing me, making me going on trying.

    But my wrestling is about this red devil: "but in no case is there any communication between the induced coil and the inductor coil" (backwards) and at the same time deliver energy to " the induced".

    Regards / Arne

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  • Ufopolitics
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    Originally posted by seaad View Post
    Hello UFO, all

    Are the Figuera patents one of the earliest electrical /technical scams in history?
    I don't think so...not a fraud, what I believe is that "the key", the real way to make it happen successfully was never revealed.

    Originally posted by seaad View Post
    To secure "Big Oil's" grip, if somebody unlikely invented an OU-unit in accordance or near the Figuera concept.
    And luckily (in the eyes of the bankers) the foreign inventor from that small remote island died early!

    Just look at us tinkerers, builders and writers here in forums. Going on and going on for years! No luck??

    Are WE Cheated??

    Regards / Arne (still trying )
    Read the patent...or any patent you pick randomly...it is all written in "possibilities/probabilities" but NEVER FACTS!!

    "If we have "Part N and Part S" as the Inductors..."¿?

    What is that above?...does part "S" means "South" and "N" North facing each others?

    All we've been doing is "interpreting" then "assuming" the way we feel it "should" look ok...or make sense.

    Similar thing you will find with Cook's Patent...missing the "Driver" or Part "C"...


    Regards


    Ufopolitics

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  • seaad
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    Originally posted by Shadow119g View Post
    I agree, I thought we would have a working device by now.
    What could possibly be the answer?

    Swamp
    Answer: MM

    Just a joke I'm anyhow still trying

    Regards / Arne

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  • Shadow119g
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    ?

    I agree, I thought we would have a working device by now.
    What could possibly be the answer?

    Swamp

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  • seaad
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    ???????

    Hello UFO, all

    Are the Figuera patents one of the earliest electrical /technical scams in history?
    To secure "Big Oil's" grip, if somebody unlikely invented an OU-unit in accordance or near the Figuera concept.
    And luckily (in the eyes of the bankers) the foreign inventor from that small remote island died early!

    Just look at us tinkerers, builders and writers here in forums. Going on and going on for years! No luck??

    Are WE Cheated??

    Regards / Arne (still trying )

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  • Ufopolitics
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    Originally posted by seaad View Post
    To be solved:

    From patent 57955 year 1914

    The method of collecting this current is so easy that it even seems superfluous to explain it; because we will have to place in between each pair of electromagnets N and S, (which we will call inductors) one electro-magnet which we will call induced, thereby properly positioned so that either the two ends of its core get deep into the sinus of the corresponding inductors and in contact with their respective cores, or bringing close inductor and induced and in contact at the poles,


    but in no case is there any communication between the induced coil and the inductor coil,

    and we will collect from these induced the resulting phenomena experienced from those inductors.


    Hello Seaad,

    I really can not tell how many of you ALL, have BUILT then tested the way Figuera has proposed above WITH SUCCESS.

    Unfortunately I have tested such geometries (N-y-N) or (S-y-S) and even (N-y-S) and it simply does EMF Induction but nothing "magical" about it at all.

    I have fluctuated currents with resistors, with Part G and just ONE WAY square pulses with a single brush.

    It simply will NOT get you OU at all, not even close to "Unity".


    If anyone have tested OU with the original way proposed by Figuera's 1908 Patent...by all means bring it on...!!


    Regards


    Ufopolitics

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  • seaad
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    The working OU-effect

    To be solved:

    From patent 57955 year 1914

    The method of collecting this current is so easy that it even seems superfluous to explain it; because we will have to place in between each pair of electromagnets N and S, (which we will call inductors) one electro-magnet which we will call induced, thereby properly positioned so that either the two ends of its core get deep into the sinus of the corresponding inductors and in contact with their respective cores, or bringing close inductor and induced and in contact at the poles,


    but in no case is there any communication between the induced coil and the inductor coil,

    and we will collect from these induced the resulting phenomena experienced from those inductors.


    Last edited by seaad; 11-26-2017, 10:36 AM.

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  • Ufopolitics
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    Originally posted by boguslaw View Post
    "Las actuales dinamos, proceden de agrupaciones de máquinas de Clarke, y
    nuestro generador recuerda, en su principio fundamental, al carrete de
    inducción de Ruhmkorff. "
    Hello Boguslaw,

    Really have no idea what you mean by posting the above Figuera paragraph...however, it just confirms that the core was NOT built of solid steel...watch and read:


    RUHMKORFF ELECTROMAGNET:



    CORE CONSTRUCTION-(taken from: Full text of Ruhmkorff Induction Coil)


    "C is the core, consisting of a bundle of
    soft iron wires
    as fine as can be obtained.

    The greater the subdivision of the core the
    quicker will it respond to the magnetizing"




    Ufopolitics
    Last edited by Ufopolitics; 11-24-2017, 02:02 PM.

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  • boguslaw
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    "Las actuales dinamos, proceden de agrupaciones de máquinas de Clarke, y
    nuestro generador recuerda, en su principio fundamental, al carrete de
    inducción de Ruhmkorff. "

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  • Listener192
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    Induction

    Hi UFO,

    If the inductance of the driven coil is high enough, with respect to the period, then the current waveform for a bi polarity square wave voltage drive, will be triangular (assuming the flux variation is over the linear portion of the BH curve) and indicative of flux slowly rising and falling over the switching period.
    The hysteresis losses will be much higher for a square wave compared to a sine wave.

    If the inductance of the driven coil is low with respect to the period i.e. you remove the steel core, then the current wave form will be closer to a square wave and flux also will rise and fall fast over the switching period. The induction will also be reduced but the hysteresis losses will be absent.

    Regards
    L192

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