Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera

[seaad]

An overactive imagination

Hi seaad,
.. an overactive imagination. Same goes for his previous post: http://www.energeticforum.com/296457-post317.html There no basis in science, fact, experience or literature to support his contentions which he states so confidently.

On the subject on flat wire, builders would be wasting money to purchase the material and to use it in this application is counterproductive.
Regards, and happy new year,
bi

For fun I made a simple compare test with 6-8 mm wide thin aluminium foil and 0.2 mm copper wire on a big toroid, both 10 turns. Al= 0.623 mH and Cu= 0.626 mH. . . . WOW!!!
But Figuera mentioned REELS Maybe maybe? ?
Arne

[bistander]

Real stuff from Ufo

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Transformer Effect does NOT Apply here, no matter if I use or not any gaps...how do I know?...Very simple...the minute you stop switch from spinning, hence Fields from fluctuating...and electromagnets STILL being fully fed...there is absolutely NO induction at secondary... ...

Ah, good Ufo,

Yes of course, once the switching device is stopped, then DC is fed to the primaries. So no induced voltage will be evident on the secondary.

Like you go on to say; I also wondered why there was a need to have inductors in series (part G and primaries) doing the same thing..... limiting current and storing energy. So I am interested in your mentioned experiments. I think this is a good place to post. But it is your call. Use the forbidden thread or start a new.

Regards,

bi

[marathonman]

Ignorant

Bistander you and Seaad sure do have a mouth with NOTHING to back it up with.... NADDA !

For your warped brains Websters dictionary meaning of Ignorant..... means NOT KNOWING.
it has nothing to do with insults.

you two argue just for the sake of arguing even though your both completely wrong.

HOW PATHETIC.

MM

[bistander]

Saw it coming

MM will likely belittle and insult us.

Talk nothing of your complete IGNORANCE of the Figuera Device thus you have NOTHING TO SAY BUT IGNORANT RAMBLINGS.

"And we do have that freedom of speach thing and have respected"

you clowns respect NO ONE, NOT EVEN YOUR SELVES THUS RECEIVE NO RESPECT.

If it wasn't in a dogma taught book you two are lost.

have fun building your device that will never work with all that piles of research you gathered by your selves.

MM

What do you know? I called that one right.

bi

[Ufopolitics]

Besides this Device...

Plus something else I needed to say...

I have developed TWO MORE devices which work based on the same Figuera Principle:

1- A Figuera Toroidal Power Unit (Figuera TPU) (Part G + Primaries+ Secondaries wound ALL right on Toroid...driven by same rotary switch or Solid State.

2- Tapped Primaries System (Figuera TPS), directly exciting from rotary switch to Tapped Primaries...No Part G Toroid required on this one.

ALL the above devices will be working out just beautiful!!!

I just don't want to load all this graphics...because they will interfere with the Continuum Thread...and I just do NOT want to do that as of now.


Regards


Ufopolitics

[Ufopolitics]

Facts and Reality...

Hello Bistander,

All I go are by Facts...And the Fact that just by fluctuating the two Fields of Same Polarity I DO, Get an Induction on Secondaries...

I recently did some resistors tests...300W, 10 Ohms...Nine of them for my 10 contacts including two output....and still with the 0.5 ohms Primaries I built for Part G...there is excellent induction at secondary...even though, Each primary need to have -at least- the resistance of the whole resistor bank...which in my case should be 90 Ohms...Unbelievable it worked with just 0.5 ohms primaries...which drop total resistance to 1.4 ohms...and signal was completely off set...still there was Induction iso-facto as fields start fluctuating by rotary switch.

Transformer Effect does NOT Apply here, no matter if I use or not any gaps...how do I know?...Very simple...the minute you stop switch from spinning, hence Fields from fluctuating...and electromagnets STILL being fully fed...there is absolutely NO induction at secondary...

However, signal must be as shown previously, unison, opposed at same exact timing...and pressures must be kept during Max-Min<>Min-Max at Primaries to obtain an Over Induction way above Primaries Input.

These are FACTS...Believe it or not...and I will be such a happy person whenever I can demonstrate this whole deal to ALL of You!!...as I would be able to FINALLY get a well deserved brake from all this work.

I really need it!!


Sincerely


Ufopolitics

[marathonman]

Ignorance

Talk nothing of your complete IGNORANCE of the Figuera Device thus you have NOTHING TO SAY BUT IGNORANT RAMBLINGS.

"And we do have that freedom of speach thing and have respected"

you clowns respect NO ONE, NOT EVEN YOUR SELVES THUS RECEIVE NO RESPECT.

If it wasn't in a dogma taught book you two are lost.

have fun building your device that will never work with all that piles of research you gathered by your selves.

MM

[bistander]

Opinion

marathonman is a WERY self-confident man!!

http://www.energeticforum.com/296464-post318.html

He talks about 15 kWatt to his disciples when WE NOT seen a single OU mW yet!

Happy New Year to all and marathonman!

Arne

Hi seaad,

MM must just make this stuff up out of thin air or an overactive imagination. Same goes for his previous post: http://www.energeticforum.com/296457-post317.html There no basis in science, fact, experience or literature to support his contentions which he states so confidently.

On the subject on flat wire, builders would be wasting money to purchase the material and to use it in this application is counterproductive.

On the subject seaad refers to, like seaad has said before, start small. Prove it works before sinking resources into a large "home power" unit.

MM will likely belittle and insult us. But WTF? He has his opinions; we have ours. And we do have that freedom of speach thing and have respected his forbidden thread.

Regards, and happy new year,

bi

[seaad]

Decide on your power requirements of say 15 kilowatts

marathonman is a WERY self-confident man!!

http://www.energeticforum.com/296464-post318.html

He talks about 15 kWatt to his disciples when WE NOT seen a single OU mW yet!

Happy New Year to all and marathonman!

Arne

[hanon1492]

Time ago while I was researching the work of William J. Hooper as well as other OU devices with electromagnets I noted that Floyd Sweet in his paper "Nothing is Something" was quoting almost literally to the work of Hooper. Sweet refered to motional E-field, field superposition, cancellation, opposing fields. Please read page 7 and 8 in that document that I link below:

http://www.hyiq.org/Downloads/Nothin...0Something.pdf

Thus it is why I believe that Floyd Sweet's VTA was really built also with both magnetic fields in repulsion.

[hanon1492]

An interesting video which was posted, I think, by a user of ou dot com forum where it is seen the proof of concept in small scale.

https://youtu.be/ScTHwo-Jaq4

[bistander]

Air gap

Hello Bi,

I have to respectfully disagree with you about this. He did say his coils got to 270 degrees if I recall correctly in less than a minute. He also has some high temperature tape between the layers of his windings. I feel sure if he had let it run longer he would have destroyed his coils. As you said only some proper testing will show for sure what is going on. So when he gets his proper power supply going then we can see more clearly what is happening.

Regards,
Carroll

Hi Carroll,

Been searching for a good tutorial and having trouble finding exactly what I wish to refer. So I'll post this with the warning the author or editor is sloppy.
Magnetisation (B-H) Curves | Electrical Engineering Assignment

Look at example 9. (Be aware for the lenght of the gap the symbol should be "lg" where "g" is subscript for gap and "l" is for length. He used l9 in one equation and l(sub) 9 on another place. He jumps for susceptance to reluctance without telling in his derivation. He mixes units of Tesla and Webers. And a couple more nit-picking items like omitting the decimal in his stated current value. Besides that, it's a pretty good example.

If you can follow it you can see the effect of a 10mm air gap. Now imagine what the mmf would be if the air gap was increased to equal length as the iron. That is the case with the straight bar core in the electromagnet (primary).

Regards,

bi

[marathonman]

Cores

What it sounds like is his part G at high voltages is not curtailing the currant as it is does with lower voltages and amperages thus it would lead me to believe that he needs more winding's on his part G. he is not getting the proper amount of self inductance causing his primaries to go into saturation.... ie to much currant. that along with the spikes and extremely high temps points in that very direction.

MM

[citfta]

Hello Bi,

I have to respectfully disagree with you about this. He did say his coils got to 270 degrees if I recall correctly in less than a minute. He also has some high temperature tape between the layers of his windings. I feel sure if he had let it run longer he would have destroyed his coils. As you said only some proper testing will show for sure what is going on. So when he gets his proper power supply going then we can see more clearly what is happening.

Regards,
Carroll

[bistander]

Saturation

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Now from what I see of the scope shot I believe you are over saturating the primary coil cores. This is of course because of too much current flowing through the primary coils. ...

Hi,

I don't think you can saturate the primary core without smoking the coil. There is no magnetic circuit of ferrous material. So it amounts to a ginormous air gap. Even with the 260 turns the current required for the MMF needed to produce a saturation level of flux in the core is way beyond the supply capability and ampacity of the conductors in the coil and associated circuit.

If you have a variac or vaiable AC power supply, it is easy to verify by running a saturation curve test.

bi