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    I have updated my site, Electrolytic cells and SMD electrolysis

    http://www.centraflow.yolasite.com/

    As and when I have things completed, I will post here future updates.

    Here in Spain I am trying to set up a co operative to build parts for systems, these will be for sale at a price only sufficient to pay the member workers of the co operative and the overheads, "no fat cats here".

    Here in Spain we have around 25% unemployement and rising. I think most will have seen what has been going on here in the news, I call it blood and pilage, we are going back into the dark ages, it is not good at all. In my local village the council has offered an industrial unit free of charge so as to get some people in the village back to work.

    If I can get together a few new energy systems, be it mine or others, that can be built here, then we can all benifit, jobs for some, products at prices that people can afford, and helpful products for third world countries. This will be owned by all that work in the business,60%, and any investors up to a maximum of 40% so as the control is always with the co operative, the workers will only benifit from the profit of products.

    Mike

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    Hi Michael,
    Is it possible to see a better picture of the e-beam reactor as some of the text is hard to read. Interesting tech. And i wish you much luck in your efforts with this!
    Regards!

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    • #3
      http://www.centraflow.yolasite.com/r...actor%2031.jpg
      The pure in heart will see the light.

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      • #4
        Thanks tachyon.

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        • #5
          Thank you

          Originally posted by pmazz850 View Post
          Hi Michael,
          Is it possible to see a better picture of the e-beam reactor as some of the text is hard to read. Interesting tech. And i wish you much luck in your efforts with this!
          Regards!
          The system works, just a little hard to get the mix right on a small scale at a low price. The ratio of gases need to be right and when we get into flow control valves things start to become more complicated price wise. But I am working on that little by little and will get there in the end.

          Mike

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          • #6
            @Mike
            That's very interesting stuff and I was performing experiments with an almost identical setup about six years ago. You may have noticed there is still a potential on the plates as well, that is in some sense we can see this in the same light as a motor/generator function. The source Emf determines the function, above a motor below a generator, thus the plates can and will generate gasses however they can cyclically be discharged to another energy sink. You will find that the plates can be charged to one potential then a period of time can pass until the generation of gasses cease then the plates can be discharged. In which case as always the line becomes blurred, is it a electrolytic cell or is it a battery or is it both or neither?.

            You are on the right track in my opinion and Stiffler had a setup which I had also discovered at around the same time concerning energy recycling.
            Maybe I should have followed through, lol, I tend to prove a technology and move on however I can't help but think there is more to this than meets the eye. In any case standard electrolysis is definitely a lesson in what not to do and is the poorest possible way of generating hydrogen in my opinion.

            AC
            Last edited by Allcanadian; 12-07-2012, 12:32 AM.

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            • #7
              Just seen the post AC

              Originally posted by Allcanadian View Post
              @Mike
              That's very interesting stuff and I was performing experiments with an almost identical setup about six years ago. You may have noticed there is still a potential on the plates as well, that is in some sense we can see this in the same light as a motor/generator function. The source Emf determines the function, above a motor below a generator, thus the plates can and will generate gasses however they can cyclically be discharged to another energy sink. You will find that the plates can be charged to one potential then a period of time can pass until the generation of gasses cease then the plates can be discharged. In which case as always the line becomes blurred, is it a electrolytic cell or is it a battery or is it both or neither?.

              You are on the right track in my opinion and Stiffler had a setup which I had also discovered at around the same time concerning energy recycling.
              Maybe I should have followed through, lol, I tend to prove a technology and move on however I can't help but think there is more to this than meets the eye. In any case standard electrolysis is definitely a lesson in what not to do and is the poorest possible way of generating hydrogen in my opinion.

              AC
              Hi AC

              sorry but just seen the post, with all that is going on I have not checked this thread.

              Well Dr. Stifflers work and mine in places do cross paths. His electron recovery I do the same in SMD electrolysis, which is electrolysis but very efficient, about 85% over Faraday, which brings it into an ecconomical way to produce hydrogen.

              The other way is using electron beam tech: and NO it is not electrolysis, if you read my paper on electrolytic cells you will see why.

              With SMD I will be giving circuits and cell configuration in the near future for those who want to replicate, also detail on different gases other than just hydrogen and oxygen.

              SMD electrolysis will produce the equivalent amount of gas as an efficient direct electrolysis but at "half the energy cost", so more cells = more gas and not SMD produces more gas, I just thought I would get that straight before someone asks, "JUST SCALE IT UP".

              Mike

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