anything that works?

[velacreations]

Another promising looking device is this one: http://www.energeticforum.com/renewa...overunity.html

I first saw it on JLN's site, and was intrigued by his results.

[velacreations]

Obviously people on these forums do not want that, so the best I can hope
for is that I show my stuff and maybe some guy in china will see something
useful about it and maybe include new features into future commercial designs.

If the open source community were to up the ante and out do anything with
comparable functions on the market but for a fraction of the cost to build
then the commercial entities will have no choice but to "out do" open source.
Benefiting all consumers.

I have interest in this!

It might be that you are just posting in the wrong places. fieldlines.com is a solar/wind community that would have a lot of interest in this. Another one would be the Open Source Ecology group, they have experience in taking concepts tot he next level.

Maybe we just need to make a proper website with descriptions of it, focused on developing the circuit. It wouldn't be difficult to set it up so that folks could buy kits with the parts and start testing and developing.

[African]

velacreations

How does the mighty fall you have now gone to proof it to this is now possible solutions come now stick with your guns
Best to all

[velacreations]

How does the mighty fall you have now gone to proof it to this is now possible solutions come now stick with your guns
Best to all

these solutions I have posted have shown credible evidence and proper testing procedures to convince me that they require further investigation.

In other words, they have peaked my interest, based on their results (and multiple replications).

[African]

But

But it is not what you started with and it is that show me what works
regards

[velacreations]

But it is not what you started with and it is that show me what works
regards

well, being that there was a lack of input, I was posting what I have found to have promise. I am not saying these things work, just that they seem interesting and have multiple replications.

[African]

Vela

Hi
I will leave it at that I respect your conclusions and will be looking forward to your analyses on those devises
Best regards
Johan

[velacreations]

New test by JLN shows 96% efficiency, no OU for the GEGENE:

TEST #3 : Efficiency measurement with a calorimetric method

[mbrownn]

Did you take a look at the GEGENE link I posted earlier? That seems like an easy replication, and although the use might have some limitations, it would be a good project to play with.

This is a test on a Tesla coil patent. the coil itself will not show any overunity as accepted by modern science as it has no way of interacting with the environment but the coil configuration does have its unique properties and that is why it was patented. The same can be said of any coil

Now lets do a thought experiment

Lets take a coil and pass a short pulse of current through it and lets say that pulse contains 10v at 1A, that current passes all the way through the coil as it can be detected on the way out of the coil. At this point our input has ceased.

What happens next depends upon the circuit but lets assume there is a diode going from the output of the coil to the input and lets assume this diode has no forward resistance. Now a current of 10v at 1amp continues to flow through the coil and passes through the diode back to input of the coil. This current will contain the same amount of energy as our input.

In main stream science it is argued that this is in fact, the same energy that we put in in our pulse. I will argue that it is not.

Why do I say that?

First of all we measured the current we put in going out of the coil so it can no longer be in the coil as stored energy.

Second, if we had that coil lift a lump of iron, surely that iron would fall at the moment we turned off the supply as the work had already been done, but this is not the case, the iron remains suspended until the second current, that is provided by the coil has dissipated

This means we have had twice the work of what we expected for a given amount of energy we put in. This would imply that this second current is indeed additional to the first and is indeed "free energy" in terms of we did not input it into the circuit.

Now if we do the same experiment with a bifiler coil but use the second winding as a transformer output.

In the first case we get a transformer output equal to the input and an induced secondary current which would equate to a x4 output

If we try to lift the iron with this coil we find its lifting capacity is reduced although its duration is the same.

Now lets take two independent coils wound on each leg of a horse shoe and repeat the experiment once more

We get the same outputs as with the bifilar arrangement but now we are able to apply the lifting force on the iron in the same way as we did in the first experiment x6.

In the real world we find things are not as good because of losses

The inductive kickback would probably be 80%, transformer 80% and the lifting force would be 80% but when combined they would be around 20% 80% and 20% respectively except in the case of the horse shoe which has 20 + 60 + 80

Isn't that interesting. Note that is only when we let the magnetism do work that we get anomalous results

Shall we do the experiment and see if that is the case?

[velacreations]

Gegene

Some updates on the GEGENE.

Here is the page of test #4: TEST #4 : First test of a closed loop system with the GEGENE by "Romero UK"

Test #5: TEST #5 : New efficiency measurements with a digital oscilloscope with more power

Test 4 is a self runner, very interesting indeed! Test 5 was more load and better scope measurements.

Test 5 results:
Input: 1805
Output: 3819

[Armagdn03]

Is there anything in these forums that actually works, in terms of energy? Lots and lots of posts about free energy and devices. Lots and lots of failed replications.

Does anybody have anything that works?

Check out the link below

http://www.energeticforum.com/renewa...peg-motor.html

Armagdn03

[Berg]

Radiant Collector

The Radiant Collector works and is easy to build.

One could say that there are two circuits at play here. The radiant collector and the radiant exciter.


The radiant exciter has the purpose of radiantly exciting the batteries, of which there are two.


The circuit is called a Brovin Kacher Radiant Exciter.

The circuit for the radiant collector is called a Tesla Radiant Collector.


Basic Schematic:


The input to the radiant exciter circuit is about 200mA; however, the radiant collector is not directly connected to the batteries. Output from the radiant collector circuit can be seen to be considerably more than the input to the exciter circuit.

More Detailed




Replication #1

http://youtu.be/2JxunfyhtFI

Replication #2

http://youtu.be/vnHTtpPvsTQ

Replication #3

Diodes for Replication #3

http://youtu.be/nhbtOvNLnko

These diodes cost about $30US each.

[Seger]

Herr der Schneidermeister

Oh Its just a principle skywatcher It is simply a full stop for those who say free energy isn't available.
I really have no time for nay sayer's any more . Here's the first blocker Directory:35 U.S.C. 181:Secrecy of certain inventions and withholding of patent - PESWiki
and as you say a lot needs to be answered by the "sheeple" themselves and the control “fear and pay” system that we wilfully live under, If you can watch both these video's of the same incident one for
public transmission after extensive and expensive re-mastering, and one leaked from the BBC archive and work out what the difference is and why its been done you have taken a little step toward free energy
WTC2 collapse - YouTube
cutter - YouTube
If you can work out why George felt he had to say this
George Carlin - The american dream - YouTube
You’ve taken another little step. A little over 200 years ago the “They” who George talks about and the “Who” skywatcher mentions were doing what they always seem to do “more for themselves”
But the people who were not in the “big club” with a little help from this very clever man Joseph Fourier

who found most of the “they s” and their Bankster criminal friends and introduced them to a new pension scheme


Now in regard of free energy you would be well advised to study the mathematics of Fourier and his supporter Lord Kelvin and their later advancement by this guy

Charles Proteus Steinmetz: The Man Who Made Lightning - undated - YouTube
However you needn't concern yourself with free energy It isn't a problem at all, there are thousands of people who know how that’s done . Its the “They” that need sorting out and the sooner the better.
For Instance a website that does Fourier’s day job and names the “They” a lot of them are here
EndGame HQ full length version - YouTube (Its how they roll) they seem to not understand

“Learn from history or you're doomed to repeat it.” Jesse Ventura
So why do you want free energy? You'll only pay pay pay … four times as much for food or the roof over your head as George tells you the stinking rich who have never washed a pot in their lives “own you”! (and me) the right to have free energy is going to have to be won any suggestions?
PS Madame La Guillotine ... The medicine hasn't worked a new scheme is required!

I had a thought when I sat and relaxed with a bottle of water in the heat. Ok 2012 with all advanced technology, chemistry, physics down to the nanoscale, advanced medicine, etc., and we can not separate such a simple molecule H2O to the simplest atom H there is something not right.
And began researching by reading some books first chemistry class. And then the network and it is very good if you want to do research and the discoveries what we have made in 30 years.

There are lots of promising studies, but everything that has to do with energy and particularly fossil fuels, yes what happened in 30 years let me bring up examples .......... you guessed it.

But hell, have we not governments that should take advantage of our interests, and above all, our planet Earth?

I can understand that in the U.S. by reading here! but countries in the EU and specielt Germany and Sweden in front of EVERYTHING WITH ROYAL SCIENCE ACADEMY AND NOBEL PRIZE it was a really good invention nitroglycerin! it was good for us. I will give a good example here to follow about our research and it is money that controls.

Sweden is a leader in nanotechnology, they say themselves.

2007 published an article on these nanowires that are so thin that one can only conduct electrons in one direction but whit heat is not as good. You can save the excess heat and easily convert into electricity. 15-20% energy savings. Yeah man that´s the way to go.

Now it´s 2013 and what happen? maybe finally it´s can be a small small (LED)light but it´s not any led lamp it´s 50% effectic compared to common led! Yeah man that´s the way to go.

But there were three major groups Wallenberg and one Highrisk investment co do not remember others. Why my first thought, second thought they might counter being purchased by General Electric?

At first I did´t thoght hang out in the company but then I remembered that founder sitting in ROYAL SWEDISH Academy of Sciences. glo.se
But I may be wrong ... the history should tell.

My chemistry what became of them. Do not know but what holds together the atoms? energy, what is energy? vibrations, what is vibration? wavelengths, such as light. Or sending H2O through a filter / membrane of nanowires and light it up.

Thank´s for me hope someone bother to read.

[qvision]

Thanks Duncan.

Oh Its just a principle skywatcher It is simply a full stop for those who say free energy isn't available.
I really have no time for nay sayer's any more . Here's the first blocker Directory:35 U.S.C. 181:Secrecy of certain inventions and withholding of patent - PESWiki
and as you say a lot needs to be answered by the "sheeple" themselves and the control “fear and pay” system that we wilfully live under, If you can watch both these video's of the same incident one for
public transmission after extensive and expensive re-mastering, and one leaked from the BBC archive and work out what the difference is and why its been done you have taken a little step toward free energy
WTC2 collapse - YouTube
cutter - YouTube
If you can work out why George felt he had to say this
George Carlin - The american dream - YouTube
You’ve taken another little step. A little over 200 years ago the “They” who George talks about and the “Who” skywatcher mentions were doing what they always seem to do “more for themselves”
But the people who were not in the “big club” with a little help from this very clever man Joseph Fourier

who found most of the “they s” and their Bankster criminal friends and introduced them to a new pension scheme


Now in regard of free energy you would be well advised to study the mathematics of Fourier and his supporter Lord Kelvin and their later advancement by this guy

Charles Proteus Steinmetz: The Man Who Made Lightning - undated - YouTube
However you needn't concern yourself with free energy It isn't a problem at all, there are thousands of people who know how that’s done . Its the “They” that need sorting out and the sooner the better.
For Instance a website that does Fourier’s day job and names the “They” a lot of them are here
EndGame HQ full length version - YouTube (Its how they roll) they seem to not understand

“Learn from history or you're doomed to repeat it.” Jesse Ventura
So why do you want free energy? You'll only pay pay pay … four times as much for food or the roof over your head as George tells you the stinking rich who have never washed a pot in their lives “own you”! (and me) the right to have free energy is going to have to be won any suggestions?
PS Madame La Guillotine ... The medicine hasn't worked a new scheme is required!

Hi Duncan, re: the 9/11 videos, they look like the footage taken from the film crew documenting the firemen ?

Thank you VERY much for the version where you hear the explosions, i haven't done any reading on 9/11 since late 2010 and i have never seen (heard !) that video.


Thanks again.

[Duncan]

RIP Dean

Hi qvision … very Tardy I haven't looked at this thread for some time .. If you research that event be sure to have a look at “Dean Warwick” he was Murdered in front of me some time ago .. he was about to expose the technology involved in this disaster.