The GEGENE : a Great Efficiency GENErator with a Tesla bifilar coil

[Armagdn03]

Yes, resonance is everywhere, that does not mean that all parameters of this system have been balanced with respect to this concept. What harmonic frequencies do the pancake coils respond to with respect to the driver???

[velacreations]

I think with tuning, output could be increased, but at this point, I think folks are just trying to verify results.

There are some interesting results happening, but it could be due to measurement or equipment error.

[velacreations]

More tests from JLN: TEST #7 : Tests of the model v1.1 with a new bifilar flat Tesla coil

These tests seem to still be in line with the previous, showing COP>1

[sciencisto]

yes

Do you mean in your experiment with the induction stove, the output to the Tesla Bifilar coupling coil are only approx. 700 Watts?
So the bulbs are not completely lit?

Yes.
The rest, theory, I don't know.

[Michelinho]

Hi all,

I bought a 1300W induction cooker* (should be in next week) and my partner will be doing tests on the GEGENE transformer. I have a big spool of AWG8 or 10 flat magnet wire that will be used to make the bifilar coils. Anyone tried to put a coil under and a coil on top of the induction cooker coil. Also what would be the results if the induction cooker's coil was made bifilar?

I will post the results when the tests are done.

Take care,

Michel

*: Bonus Package Portable BuiId in induction cooktop cooker burner Free pot 1300W | eBay

[velacreations]

Michel, do you have a way to verify output? I would start by copying the setup, and then work on modifications, changing one thing at a time,so that you can test each change against the previous results.

Good luck, and keep us posted.

[vrand]

JLN has released a new device he is working on, with promising results so far.

Here's the link: The GEGENE : a Great Efficiency GENErator with a Tesla bifilar coil...

Measurements taken with a scope:
TEST #2 : Efficiency measurements with a digital oscilloscope

Results:
Input: 1050 W
Output: 2014 W

It has some limitations as to what you can run with it. From JLN:


Very interesting, very simple to replicate. Anybody have thoughts on this?

Yes, very interesting indeed.

So far only one side of the cooker plate coil is used. Would get 2X more output if another output coil is used on the backside of the cooker plate coil?

cheers

[velacreations]

Yes, very interesting indeed.

So far only one side of the cooker plate coil is used. Would get 2X more output if another output coil is used on the backside of the cooker plate coil?

cheers

Yes, that might be possible. If you have one of these cookers, you should run some tests and post your results.

I am still not convinced of the scope measurements. I think we need to see a running loop from a battery to verify COP>1

[hanon1492]

Hi all,

This device is very very close related to the concept proposed by Clemente Figuera. Have a look to the thread about Figuera´s devices

http://www.energeticforum.com/renewa...e_figuera.html

Regards

[tika]

Michel, the signal in the coils is HF. Avoid single large solid copper wires, the skin effect is very real at these frequencies and will dramatically effect the impedance of your coil and heat loss. I suggest you take a look at the primary coil in the stove top for gauge. regular PVC insulated multi strand #12 to #16 wire should be ok. As long as it's not single strand copper

[wrtner]

Yes, resonance is everywhere, that does not mean that all parameters of this system have been balanced with respect to this concept. What harmonic frequencies do the pancake coils respond to with respect to the driver???

The pancake circuit, the secondary, will have some L, C, and R,
along with an output load. Presumably, the driving frequency will
be that of the cooker and the values of circuit elements will need
to be such as to resonate with it.

[Michelinho]

Hi all,

@hanon1492,

I think the Clemente Figueras generator is closer to the Hans Kohler magnetstrompapparat than the GEGENE.

@tika & vela,

I will not be the one testing the GEGENE, my partner will be doing that. He is an X-Ray tech with a good knowledge of what is going on in the FE research. I keep him pinned down with questions and new references of what is going on. He has all the tools needed and if not, I have quite a few goodies here of my own.

I will see him tomorrow and we will certainly pass a few hours discussing the GEGENE and what he will need for a good run down of the induction cooker/bifilar coil. He is a fan of Tesla and he did a lot of research on his concepts. He is a wiz in my eyes.

Take care,

Michel

[velacreations]

Great, Michel, keep us posted on developments.

[ron48]

interesting video from jean naudin all the best ron

GEGENE : Closed Loop test Phase 2 with a Grid Tie Inverter - YouTube

[vrand]

interesting video from jean naudin all the best ron

GEGENE : Closed Loop test Phase 2 with a Grid Tie Inverter - YouTube

Thanks for the info

JLNaudun is getting closer to closing the loop
Cheers