The GEGENE : a Great Efficiency GENErator with a Tesla bifilar coil

[shylo]

@ wrtner

I had 6 single e-core laminates spaced evenly apart in a stack submerged in water.I had leads connected and was pulsing with stored caps.
After reading chapter 10, I realize many of my mistakes, they have the plates seperated into compartments ,and only feed the plates in a series fassion. I was feeding each plate with its' own supply.
I will try it their way ,but will the e-cores insulation prevent bubbling?
I also noticed that 1.24volts at 500ma is the best pulse? A capacitor that has a higher voltage all depends on the amount of uF, which determines the power out correct? 400v at 1500uf is roughly equall to 16v at 24000uf, for work the charged cap can do??
Does the formula E = Q divided by C work to find the work a stored cap can do? (E-voltage, C-capacity rating, Q-coulombs)
I should of started learning this stuff 30 years ago.
What do they say "It's never too late"
shylo

[wrtner]

Yes, you would need to get all that varnish off. But you really
need stainless steel, 316L. Most recyling centres may have some in
the form of old scrapped quality commercial kitchen equipment
and medical equipment (sterilisers, etc).

The formula is fine if the units are fine - coulombs, farads and volts
(NB: farads and not the more usual uF).

[jonabel1971]

New GEGENE video

1st GEGENE demonstration - making hydrogen. - YouTube

[jonabel1971]

Modelling water molecules behavior in an electric field.

This is a laymen's article - describing a highly technical and math filled paper from a scientific journal.

It is about the behavior of water molecules in an electric field.

Physics - Water Molecules, Unite!

1st GEGENE demonstration - making hydrogen. - YouTube

[Duncan]

amazing .. water

I've always considered that there are many “anomalies” Involved with water and often come across these demonstrated by different people almost without exception I am amazed by what I see.
Without comment I link to a few of them here I suspect another piece of the jigsaw is here but there is obviously a great deal we still do not know about …. Water... "Have you entered the storehouses of the snow or seen the storehouses of the hail,

LeeskalninPhysics2.wmv - YouTube

MAGNETIC VORTEX SPIN DISCOVERY, Sept. 2011, TORNADO UNDERWAT.mp4 - YouTube

magnet water split.wmv - YouTube

Water, Consciousness & Intent: Dr. Masaru Emoto - YouTube

Nature Was My Teacher - The Vision of Viktor Schauberger on Vimeo

[level]

Hi , is this thread still active ?

Sure the thread is still active as long as it exists. Just no one has posted to it recently.

In Naudin's last test with his GEGENE setup, where he measured the output power very carefully, he did not measure over unity.
TEST #18 : Test of the GEGENE with a QUARTZ HEATER and a new Tesla coil
He measured an input power of 1733 Watts and an output power of 1596 to 1599 Watts, depending on his method of calculation for the output power.
That's an efficiency of about 92.3%. Not over unity. Naudin says he still plans to experiment further with this to see if he can improve on that however.

[Michelinho]

Hi Jacqui,

I did a few tests with an induction plate and different coil designs, a vintage analog light meter*, scopes and multimeters last month.

A reference light output was first taken with 6X 500W halogen bulbs plugged to the wall outlet, same 15A breaker outlet used for the plate, and took a reading with the light meter ajusting it's distance to get a max reading before the breaker tripped (it did a few times). Then I started the tests with mono and bifilar configurations. I used multi braided wires in most tests, even used an induction coil identical to the emiter as output.

The induction plate was connected to a Kill-a-Watt. I added and removed bulbs to see what would be the results but so far nothing better than 92.6% efficiency calculated.

I visit JLN's site often to see if anything new comes out of it.

Take care,

Michel

* My model predates this one: James's Light Meter Collection: GE DW-40 Exposure Meter The selenium cell is flat, no multiplier or diffuser on the top of it.

[level]

Hi , Level .

Thanks for your reply , Hummm not over unity eh !
Yes that's the case for test #18 , but what is your answer for the result for test # 16 ?

That's well over unity and it's not just a little bit O.U. but quite a healthy margin where the out put is not milliwatts but kilowatts .
That's pretty hard to deny ; even for a non technical person .

My understanding of Test #16 is that he did not make any output power measurements. The purpose of this test was apparently to measure the temperature of the pancake coil he was using while it was under load. Although he had 4180 Watts of light bulbs connected as a load for this test, there is no telling how much power the load is dissipating unless very careful measurements are done like was done in test #18. The light bulbs were likely only partially lit for the most part (not running at full power). Because the output waveform from the induction cooker is not a standard 50/60 Hz sinewave, but rather a high frequency complex waveform, power measurements are a lot more complicated than just throwing a multimeter on the load. This is what J. Naudin was trying to address in test #18 I believe. It is interesting that he got such a high efficiency powering the quartz heater though. J. Naudin thinks that he may be able to improve on this with a better design, so we'll have to wait and see how he makes out.

[Zardox]

Here is a link to a guy who has been doing some testing with this if you are interested.
TinManPower's channel - YouTube

[wrtner]

My understanding of Test #16 is that he did not make any output power measurements. The purpose of this test was apparently to measure the temperature of the pancake coil he was using while it was under load. Although he had 4180 Watts of light bulbs connected as a load for this test, there is no telling how much power the load is dissipating unless very careful measurements...

People seem to want to make life difficult. I continue to believe
that the most useful and realistic test is Test #3, with the kettles.

[Hobby Eon]

Electronics expertise wanted

Hi all ,
from what JLN has said test #16 delivered 4180w out for 1200w in , that means 2980w and 3.48 O.U. even with a little for error it's still going to be a good result . Yes ?

Well said

How to bypass the 'no pan' protection ? This is the chip they use in that induction cooker. What can we do about that ?

[Farmhand]

Use a high grade energy meter to measure the input and verify with the scope.

Then rectify the output with a FWBR and run the load lamps from the rectified
and smoothed DC and measure that. Dead easy and very accurate.

If the truth is wanted, seek it.

Why mess around with light meters and scopes for measuring the output power ?
Why not do it the Easy and more accurate way ?

Cheers

[Hobby Eon]

Use a high grade energy meter to measure the input and verify with the scope.
Then rectify the output with a FWBR and run the load lamps from the rectified
and smoothed DC and measure that. Dead easy and very accurate.
If the truth is wanted, seek it.
Why mess around with light meters and scopes for measuring the output power ?
Why not do it the Easy and more accurate way ?

STAY OUT TROLL !!

[wrtner]

STAY OUT TROLL !!

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[Hobby Eon]

!!??
Australian shill Farmhand said:

"because lets face it there is no such
thing as OU. Energy cannot be created."

Am i getting to close ?? And he IS trolling !

He is spamming forums with over 4500 posts with shill contence !