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  • #46
    Originally posted by ProfessorGravity View Post
    Hi harctan,

    I talked to my patent attorney about your suggestion and he recommended that it should be out of the question unless I want to give my turbines away. He told me that if I were to do something like that then it could be hard for him to do any type of patent protection.

    He mentioned how there are certain things that I am not able to do if I were to want to protect my products. He mentioned how the going public like that would make me lose all of my rights towards their protection.

    He mentioned that I should do some type of patent application process first before I should do anything like that.

    He mentioned how my product could turn into the wheel concept where everyone would be able to use it without anyone being able to put a patent on it. He said ones the secrets of the products are revealed publicly, chances are I am going to lose it.

    Thanks,

    ProfessorGravity
    I would suggest against patenting it, due to whoever supervises it will say you can't ever talk about it due to "National Security". :\
    I won't talk to people who are swayed by negative emotions, bear that in mind.

    For the others.. Let's get along, I want to advance science, not fight.

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    • #47
      Just because you reveal something in public does not negate your rights to patent it. UNLESS you assign the rights to the public, thereby placing it in the public domain. Just disclosing it does NOT place it in the public domain. BUT in the US the law is "First to File" so you could easily post something in public and then find that someone on the forum has beat you to the patent office. Filing a provisional patent before you share anything is the only way to protect yourself UNDER THE LAW.

      ......

      And then go into hiding because the big guys (oil companies, foreign agents, your own government) will be coming to deal with you and at a minimum, your patent will be classified under national security and you will lose it anyway. You cannot win. That's the bottom line. If you're lucky, you might NOT disappear off the face of the earth.

      Share everything and become famous as the man who changed the world. You won't make as much money, but you will be famous and alive to spend it.
      “Advances are made by answering questions. Discoveries are made by questioning answers.”
      —Bernhard Haisch, Astrophysicist

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      • #48
        Its no wonder an attorney would insist on a patent. It certainly isnt cheap to file one..I'm in the wrong line of business lol

        The Cost of Obtaining a Patent in the US | IPWatchdog.com | Patents & Patent Law

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        • #49
          ProGravity, in order to claim rights on your discovery you better do patent it;
          it does not matter what this agent said, get another one; I know it, have two.
          If it's new it's patentable no matter what; you can do it as Tesla did, Willis did, Kapanadze, Smith, etc - just follow procedure and make a drawings with symbols, arrows, squares, triangles, etc, but not reveal a "secret", just find a right words;
          as you can see NOBODY can still theirs ideas but all credits of replicators coming to them.
          Patent it, get some friends and make a nice working model, the investors will find you themselves...
          Good luck.

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          • #50
            Originally posted by jdodson View Post
            If you really are creating a field that repels gravity and you need money fast, not only would selling building plans bring you immediate income, it would keep you safe from those who want to keep this locked in a black box.

            All you would need to do is talk to Aaron, he runs this forum, disclose what you have to him and he can verify its validity. After that you can put together a kit which would include building instructions simply to replicate one of the small craft you have that can repel gravity, or just one of your perpetual motion designs. You and Aaron could set a date for publication weeks later to build anticipation.

            If someone like him can verify what you are creating is a field which repels gravity, as well as being real perpetual motion, you can easily sell those plans for $50 to each person. You may initially only have a couple dozen sales here, but if its real, word of mouth spreads extremely fast on the internet with social media. You can easily have hundreds of sales and make 10's of thousands of dollars within the first month after its release.

            If its real, you certainly could make more than that by going a corporate route, but in all honestly many who have tried that before have never been heard from again.
            Hi jdodson,
            Last edited by ProfessorGravity; 01-07-2013, 06:03 AM.

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            • #51
              Originally posted by jdodson View Post
              Its no wonder an attorney would insist on a patent. It certainly isnt cheap to file one..I'm in the wrong line of business lol

              The Cost of Obtaining a Patent in the US | IPWatchdog.com | Patents & Patent Law
              Hi jdodson,
              Last edited by ProfessorGravity; 01-07-2013, 06:05 AM.

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              • #52
                Originally posted by Turion View Post
                Just because you reveal something in public does not negate your rights to patent it. UNLESS you assign the rights to the public, thereby placing it in the public domain. Just disclosing it does NOT place it in the public domain. BUT in the US the law is "First to File" so you could easily post something in public and then find that someone on the forum has beat you to the patent office. Filing a provisional patent before you share anything is the only way to protect yourself UNDER THE LAW.

                ......

                And then go into hiding because the big guys (oil companies, foreign agents, your own government) will be coming to deal with you and at a minimum, your patent will be classified under national security and you will lose it anyway. You cannot win. That's the bottom line. If you're lucky, you might NOT disappear off the face of the earth.

                Share everything and become famous as the man who changed the world. You won't make as much money, but you will be famous and alive to spend it.
                Hi Turion,
                Last edited by ProfessorGravity; 01-07-2013, 06:06 AM.

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                • #53
                  Originally posted by promt View Post
                  ProGravity, in order to claim rights on your discovery you better do patent it;
                  it does not matter what this agent said, get another one; I know it, have two.
                  If it's new it's patentable no matter what; you can do it as Tesla did, Willis did, Kapanadze, Smith, etc - just follow procedure and make a drawings with symbols, arrows, squares, triangles, etc, but not reveal a "secret", just find a right words;
                  as you can see NOBODY can still theirs ideas but all credits of replicators coming to them.
                  Patent it, get some friends and make a nice working model, the investors will find you themselves...
                  Good luck.
                  Hi promt,

                  hhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
                  Last edited by ProfessorGravity; 01-07-2013, 06:07 AM.

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                  • #54
                    Originally posted by Mineko View Post
                    I would suggest against patenting it, due to whoever supervises it will say you can't ever talk about it due to "National Security". :\
                    Hi Mineko,
                    Last edited by ProfessorGravity; 01-07-2013, 06:08 AM.

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                    • #55
                      Originally posted by ProfessorGravity View Post
                      Hi Mineko,

                      For someone that is so young, you do know a lot. You are right. The national security is the only reason of why I am not putting any type of patents with some of my products.

                      I have a patent attorney in that palm of my hands that is Pro Bono and yet I am not doing anything towards the patents.

                      The no patent is also the reason of why I am going to have a lot of trouble finding someone that might be a good investor.

                      This is why I came to the idea where I would like to produce a reality show where I would be designing, building and testing large man size anti-gravity spaceships for all of the world to see and in this way I would be able to use the money towards my projects and in this way I would no longer need any type of investor(s).

                      I see that you are smart.

                      Thanks,

                      ProfessorGravity,
                      The reality show thing sure does sound fun, but mainstream media is not allowed to broadcast such things as what you're building, you'll have to go the Youtube/viral video route.

                      Thank you for the compliment.

                      Also, I'm not sure if you read my response to your other post to me, my e-mail is there if you somehow managed to miss it.

                      You seem rather serious about all of this, I'm glad, this will be a wonderful opportunity for both of us, as I too am serious about this.
                      I won't talk to people who are swayed by negative emotions, bear that in mind.

                      For the others.. Let's get along, I want to advance science, not fight.

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                      • #56
                        Originally posted by ProfessorGravity View Post
                        Hi promt,
                        I see that you do know something about the patent application process. I see that you also know about Nicola Tesla. He is the main scientist that I totally respect. I think that he was the greatest scientist ever and it is a shame that others know nothing to very little about him.
                        You made some good points.
                        Thanks,
                        ProfessorGravity

                        Hi, Professor;
                        I know about patents as mush as everybody else who been involved in it in any way, there's a lot of nuances in each case, I'm just pointing how they did it without revealing any specifics for mass production and the same time well known to world.
                        Same with Tesla; after some years most of his patents open for public, and all those who're interested in His technologies can easy find it and try ; don't mention dozens of them already been realized, including deadly cell-phones and microwave technologies (brain tumors, bees, whales, HAARP, etc).

                        Yes, I could recommend you a Patent agent, but I'm not in your country; I'm sure you can easy handle it; if it's new, it will be patented.
                        Concentrate on good demo-model!!

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                        • #57
                          @ProfessorGravity,

                          I appreciate the video link, the problem is that we have no way of knowing if a toy motor is in the blue container at the bottom making the whole thing work. I'm not sure how much time you've spent on the internet, you seem more like someone who just sticks to their work, my point is that there are ALOT of fake videos on the internet showing things that move just like yours do.

                          You have written ALOT here, we do appreciate the effort your taking to explain.

                          All I can do is give you my personal opinion. A patent itself will not prevent others from replicating your devices. Creating a field to interact with gravity is a matter of inducing a natural occurance. As you believe, planets themselves naturally do this already. That means, what you are patenting is actually just your specific way to induce that field. You can not patent a law of nature. Which means anyone could use your device as a template to create a whole new device designed completely different, to affect that same law of nature.

                          You can patent a incandescent light builb....that doesnt protect flourescent light bulbs...Both do the SAME thing and have the same outcome. However, they are two completely different designs.

                          My point is, this kind of technology will be replicated no matter how it is released. Also, the united states patent office doesnt believe in perpetual motion, I doubt they will accept invisible anti-gravity fields.

                          What Cannot Be Patented?

                          As I said above, you can create an internet media campaign and build anticipation for a public release online for building plans or a product kit.
                          If what you have is real, it will spread like wildfire and it will have your name stamped all over it. You will be on national news, you dont need a patent to be recognized and rewarded.
                          Last edited by jdodson; 01-06-2013, 08:54 AM.

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                          • #58
                            Originally posted by jdodson View Post
                            @ProfessorGravity,

                            I appreciate the video link, the problem is that we have no way of knowing if a toy motor is in the blue container at the bottom making the whole thing work. I'm not sure how much time you've spent on the internet, you seem more like someone who just sticks to their work, my point is that there are ALOT of fake videos on the internet showing things that move just like yours do.

                            You have written ALOT here, we do appreciate the effort your taking to explain.

                            All I can do is give you my personal opinion. A patent itself will not prevent others from replicating your devices. Creating a field to interact with gravity is a matter of inducing a natural occurance. As you believe, planets themselves naturally do this already. That means, what you are patenting is actually just your specific way to induce that field. You can not patent a law of nature. Which means anyone could use your device as a template to create a whole new device designed completely different, to affect that same law of nature.

                            You can patent a incandescent light builb....that doesnt protect flourescent light bulbs...Both do the SAME thing and have the same outcome. However, they are two completely different designs.

                            My point is, this kind of technology will be replicated no matter how it is released. Also, the united states patent office doesnt believe in perpetual motion, I doubt they will accept invisible anti-gravity fields.

                            What Cannot Be Patented?

                            As I said above, you can create an internet media campaign and build anticipation for a public release online for building plans or a product kit.
                            If what you have is real, it will spread like wildfire and it will have your name stamped all over it. You will be on national news, you dont need a patent to be recognized and rewarded.
                            Hi jdodson,
                            Last edited by ProfessorGravity; 01-07-2013, 06:10 AM.

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                            • #59
                              Originally posted by promt View Post
                              Hi, Professor;
                              I know about patents as mush as everybody else who been involved in it in any way, there's a lot of nuances in each case, I'm just pointing how they did it without revealing any specifics for mass production and the same time well known to world.
                              Same with Tesla; after some years most of his patents open for public, and all those who're interested in His technologies can easy find it and try ; don't mention dozens of them already been realized, including deadly cell-phones and microwave technologies (brain tumors, bees, whales, HAARP, etc).

                              Yes, I could recommend you a Patent agent, but I'm not in your country; I'm sure you can easy handle it; if it's new, it will be patented.
                              Concentrate on good demo-model!!
                              Hi promt,

                              hhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
                              Last edited by ProfessorGravity; 01-07-2013, 06:11 AM.

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                              • #60
                                Hi ProfessorGravity, I've seen your videos and in my oppinion your models look heavy to be lifted just by a rotor and blades as shown. So I do believe you have something there that helps the blades; or the rotation and support produced by the blades induce "something else".
                                If you would like to build a profesional version or prototype let's say 4 ft diameter, do you know how much would it cost?

                                Best regrds.

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