New Energy Discovery! The World Is Saved!

[jdodson]

He misspelled his web address, heres the right link: Home @ jogoaerospace.com

[Mineko]

I see.

Hi Mineko,

You make some good points. I was not aware that I lacked more information about the plan that is in hand. I am more then willing to reveal as much as possible in order for me to find a serious investor or angel.

The problem that I have is, of course, not wanting to reveal too much about how my self energy contain turbines work. I was thinking that if I were to get someone that is serious about what I have to offer, I could then reveal more information about the turbine product.

I am not taking what you have posted in anyway wrong. In fact, I appreciate the effort a great deal. I need help in more ways then one so anything that anyone would post would be well looked at.

Although, I could say that I am revealing something of great importance that does show that there is something well worth the investigation. I mean, the information does represent something of potential investment interest.

But you are right and maybe I should include more information and I will be looking at that.

Thanks,

ProfessorGravity

Well, you seem sincere enough, I wouldn't mind contributing some time in the lab with you, as I have no money, if this is real, it would give you more investors seeing as how there would be two voices saying it's true, if it is, of course.

So, here's what I offer you, my time and effort, as long as this is real.

Also, as a side note.. If you really wanted to save the world, you'd open-source this, but that's not what matters at the moment to you, money does, which is very, very comprehensible.

What you will offer me is proof, in action, in exchange for my time and effort for helping you, does that sound like a fair deal?

If this is real, you seem like somebody I could become friends with, which would also make me very happy. ^_^

Regards, can't wait for the response.

[ProfessorGravity]

Thats understandable. If your system does work, and it really is simple in design its hard to say much without it instantly becoming open source.

Investment in this field, on uncertain claims, is not going to be easy.

I think you may be better off simply selling the building plans, or kits for the full scale model of the overunity system. I'd assume you will need some form of product before people will sink too much money into something that is just an "idea" at this point. There are too many fakes on Youtube for that to be enough evidence. Espically if the videos are not very long and not very good quality.

Best of luck, looks interesting

Hi jdodson,

[ProfessorGravity]

He misspelled his web address, heres the right link: Home @ jogoaerospace.com

Hi jdodson,

[ProfessorGravity]

I think Gdez will be correct in his psychic prediction. I usually try to stay positive and encouraging but there is nothing I see in the video to get excited about and every reason to be skeptical. Firstly you have no sound and very low video quality. No sound means an air gun from a compressor could be spinning things. I'm not saying you are faking it but why no sound? Not only that but with a good set of bearings I could do a same video without losing any apparent speed. Do yourself a favor and get sound and get a RPM meter (about $15 to $20 off eBay). Redo a video with better quality - everyones got a camera camcorder etc now and most cell phone camcorders would produce better quality than what you had in that video. Then make a better video with sound showing RPM readings.

What exactly is the force that you believe would cause your 'turbines' to spin? I understand basics of implosion physics of Viktor Schauberger. Is that what you think is driving these? I see nothing in what you show that would tie to that type of technology. Also your web site that you posted does not seem to exist. If you know you really have something keep at it but you will need to do better in presentation and explaining how things work than you have so far here.

Hi ewizard,

[ProfessorGravity]

Well, you seem sincere enough, I wouldn't mind contributing some time in the lab with you, as I have no money, if this is real, it would give you more investors seeing as how there would be two voices saying it's true, if it is, of course.

So, here's what I offer you, my time and effort, as long as this is real.

Also, as a side note.. If you really wanted to save the world, you'd open-source this, but that's not what matters at the moment to you, money does, which is very, very comprehensible.

What you will offer me is proof, in action, in exchange for my time and effort for helping you, does that sound like a fair deal?

If this is real, you seem like somebody I could become friends with, which would also make me very happy. ^_^

Regards, can't wait for the response.

Hi Mineko,

[broli]

I've seen that video before, weren't you on ATS a while ago?
And to sum up your, pretty long, post:

-You have no working prototype
-You have an absolutely fail proof theory that tells you the device should work
-And you're looking for money

Yeah good luck with that.

And trust me on this one, even if you went the crowdfunding route you'll fail miserably, at least depending on your funding goal. Especially on Kickstarter where it's mostly about your video editing and montage skills in order to make a convincing promo video. Even then without a functioning prototype no one would be insane enough to invest in this "crackpot" science thing. The point of a site like Kickstarter is not to fund your research, usually that's a phase that has been mostly but not fully completed, but to get funding to setup a business and go into production.

Your goal should be finding machinists to make you parts not investors to build you a business.

[Uncle Charlie]

I've seen that video before, weren't you on ATS a while ago?
And to sum up your, pretty long, post:

-You have no working prototype
-You have an absolutely fail proof theory that tells you the device should work
-And you're looking for money

Yeah good luck with that.

And trust me on this one, even if you went the crowdfunding route you'll fail miserably, at least depending on your funding goal. Especially on Kickstarter where it's mostly about your video editing and montage skills in order to make a convincing promo video. Even then without a functioning prototype no one would be insane enough to invest in this "crackpot" science thing. The point of a site like Kickstarter is not to fund your research, usually that's a phase that has been mostly but not fully completed, but to get funding to setup a business and go into production.

Your goal should be finding machinists to make you parts not investors to build you a business.

Wow, I wanted to remain a lurker and student of the art, but this caught my eye. Broli has given you some sound advice. I have been a business owner for 27 years and I can tell you from experience there are no free lunches in this world. You would do well to read, read, read, on this forum and you will quickly discover those who can be of the most help in the areas where you need it. Pick a few "partners" and have them sign Non Disclosure Agreements and let them replicate your "model". Allow them to machine parts or wind coils or whatever your needs may be to get you to that next level where the money is located. What do they get out of the deal? They get their own private model of a working OU device for their own private use. What do you get? Validation in this community! You also get parts and a working model for your own demonstration purposes. You can get some of these folks to work up the math, measurements, etc for a legitimate presentation showing the device works as described. You need all of these things to get an investor in this field and especially in this economy. Just some food for thought. I wish you the very best.

Charlie

[ewizard]

Okay so some questions on the videos on your web site. I see for the first time in this thread you mention magnets. So are you saying magnets cause the turbine to spin? Stiction with magnets has so far kept almost everyone from being able to cause any device to spin without outside power. It also appears you have a home built RC gas powered prop driven device somewhat like an RC helicopter but without any thing to counter the rotation set up by the spinning prop so the whole thing starts spinning and gets hard to control. You obviously have some power on board also or you wouldn't be able to use the RC transmitter in you attempt to control it. Despite the low quality video and again no sound (which I now assume is to avoid the loud noise emitted by a hobby style RC gas engine it does indeed look like the typical fuel powered engines I know from RC hobby airplanes and so on). So what is it here that is special other than being home built and mostly a poor design that cannot be controlled well? Sorry to say I don't see a thing that LOOKS like anything other than a lot of home built flying devices that anyone with some model airplane building skill could do with off the shelf parts from their local hobby toy store. Either you are nuts, scamming people or your videos are so bad that they do more harm than good in showing what you have. I'd like to believe you have something unique here but nothing I've seen looks like anything other than DIY helicopters/toy ufo sort of projects. Much better videos with closeups may change my opinion but for now your videos are not helping your cause at all.

[Mineko]

Hi Mineko,

Your suggestions sounds of interest, but of course, I need to know more about what do you mean the lab? and just tell me more about what you have to offer.

I mean, why would you want to help? and why do you think that you could contribute to this type of work?



Thanks,

ProfessorGravity

By lab I just mean wherever we work. xD

Well, what I have to offer is an extra mind, I don't mean to toot my own horn but.. I'm quite smart.

Other than that, I can offer validation to the community, which in turn will offer you investments.

Of course, I will be able to help you with your machine, possibly make it better, you see, I've never been good at making original things, but I've always been great at improving existing things.

And why do I want to help..?

Isn't that obvious?
You have a possibly great machine that I can study that may possibly manipulate gravity, does it not make sense it would pique my scientific interest?

Other than that.. Well, it would provide me experience in this field of work, more than I have at least.

I never cared much for "helping everybody", but when I do "help everybody" it makes me feel happier inside, and if this is what it'll do well.. Isn't that great?

The problem I see with this however, is of course the possibility this is not real or is some sort of trap, and even if that's not the case, the kinds of.. Legal problems from big business you'll get if you try to make this into a business.

I could probably help with some of the legal problems, as well as act as a bodyguard taken this is real.

You see, I'm completely nuts, when I find something of great interest, I'll do whatever I need to make it happen, I don't care so much about credit either, you can have it because it's yours anyway.

So, given all that I can offer you, and probably more than that, what can you offer me?

[ProfessorGravity]

I've seen that video before, weren't you on ATS a while ago?
And to sum up your, pretty long, post:

-You have no working prototype
-You have an absolutely fail proof theory that tells you the device should work
-And you're looking for money

Yeah good luck with that.

And trust me on this one, even if you went the crowdfunding route you'll fail miserably, at least depending on your funding goal. Especially on Kickstarter where it's mostly about your video editing and montage skills in order to make a convincing promo video. Even then without a functioning prototype no one would be insane enough to invest in this "crackpot" science thing. The point of a site like Kickstarter is not to fund your research, usually that's a phase that has been mostly but not fully completed, but to get funding to setup a business and go into production.

Your goal should be finding machinists to make you parts not investors to build you a business.

Hi broli,

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[Armagdn03]

Hello Mr Gravity,

The reason you are meeting with so much friction here is that this is primarily an open source community. We share everything, and ask only for input, ideas, replication etc. People become very sore when something is asked of others without first having been given something, as there are MANY con men out there that do EXACTLY what you are doing now.

I could make the exact same videos you have with hidden power sources (wireless power transmission, hidden batteries, etc.) very easily and make it look as if I have something fantastic. The only way to convince anybody here this is real, is to disclose EVERYTHING, and know that you have done something truly good.

I think you are very much in the wrong place.

[ProfessorGravity]

Okay so some questions on the videos on your web site. I see for the first time in this thread you mention magnets. So are you saying magnets cause the turbine to spin? Stiction with magnets has so far kept almost everyone from being able to cause any device to spin without outside power. It also appears you have a home built RC gas powered prop driven device somewhat like an RC helicopter but without any thing to counter the rotation set up by the spinning prop so the whole thing starts spinning and gets hard to control. You obviously have some power on board also or you wouldn't be able to use the RC transmitter in you attempt to control it. Despite the low quality video and again no sound (which I now assume is to avoid the loud noise emitted by a hobby style RC gas engine it does indeed look like the typical fuel powered engines I know from RC hobby airplanes and so on). So what is it here that is special other than being home built and mostly a poor design that cannot be controlled well? Sorry to say I don't see a thing that LOOKS like anything other than a lot of home built flying devices that anyone with some model airplane building skill could do with off the shelf parts from their local hobby toy store. Either you are nuts, scamming people or your videos are so bad that they do more harm than good in showing what you have. I'd like to believe you have something unique here but nothing I've seen looks like anything other than DIY helicopters/toy ufo sort of projects. Much better videos with closeups may change my opinion but for now your videos are not helping your cause at all.

Hi ewizard,

[ProfessorGravity]

Wow, I wanted to remain a lurker and student of the art, but this caught my eye. Broli has given you some sound advice. I have been a business owner for 27 years and I can tell you from experience there are no free lunches in this world. You would do well to read, read, read, on this forum and you will quickly discover those who can be of the most help in the areas where you need it. Pick a few "partners" and have them sign Non Disclosure Agreements and let them replicate your "model". Allow them to machine parts or wind coils or whatever your needs may be to get you to that next level where the money is located. What do they get out of the deal? They get their own private model of a working OU device for their own private use. What do you get? Validation in this community! You also get parts and a working model for your own demonstration purposes. You can get some of these folks to work up the math, measurements, etc for a legitimate presentation showing the device works as described. You need all of these things to get an investor in this field and especially in this economy. Just some food for thought. I wish you the very best.

Charlie

Hi Charlie,

[ProfessorGravity]

By lab I just mean wherever we work. xD

Well, what I have to offer is an extra mind, I don't mean to toot my own horn but.. I'm quite smart.

Other than that, I can offer validation to the community, which in turn will offer you investments.

Of course, I will be able to help you with your machine, possibly make it better, you see, I've never been good at making original things, but I've always been great at improving existing things.

And why do I want to help..?

Isn't that obvious?
You have a possibly great machine that I can study that may possibly manipulate gravity, does it not make sense it would pique my scientific interest?

Other than that.. Well, it would provide me experience in this field of work, more than I have at least.

I never cared much for "helping everybody", but when I do "help everybody" it makes me feel happier inside, and if this is what it'll do well.. Isn't that great?

The problem I see with this however, is of course the possibility this is not real or is some sort of trap, and even if that's not the case, the kinds of.. Legal problems from big business you'll get if you try to make this into a business.

I could probably help with some of the legal problems, as well as act as a bodyguard taken this is real.

You see, I'm completely nuts, when I find something of great interest, I'll do whatever I need to make it happen, I don't care so much about credit either, you can have it because it's yours anyway.

So, given all that I can offer you, and probably more than that, what can you offer me?

Hi Mineko,