Daniel McFarland Cook's Electromagnetic Battery

[Bob Smith]

Vinyasi,
Interesting observations about the possible interaction between metal-organic layered devices and prana. It reminds me of early Joe Cell investigations (before it got sidetracked into HHO). Here's a very simple video that might be a proof of concept for what you're proposing:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r-lt63Si8IU

As far as circular versus helical windings, are you suggesting that Cook battery windings might have been individual circular windings connected in parallel? If this were the case, you'd essentially have each circular winding acting as a parallel inductor. We know that when windings are connected in parallel, we have multiplication of current. If you could get the individual circular windings to charge by induction from the iron core and discharge into a capacitor, perhaps through a diode, you might then have a kind of push-pull or charge-discharge effect that becomes a self-oscillation.

I did try the cook battery (still wound, but not functioning); perhaps it might be worth trying again from the above perspective.

Any thoughts?
Bob

Edit: Interesting video on DM Cook Here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ylYgUOfUzY

[Vinyasi]

Natural insulators, natural oscillators, and floating capacitive PMH windings...

Vinyasi,
Interesting observations about the possible interaction between metal-organic layered devices and prana. It reminds me of early Joe Cell investigations (before it got sidetracked into HHO). Here's a very simple video that might be a proof of concept for what you're proposing:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r-lt63Si8IU

I don't know. Going by its YouTube comments, the above video doesn't look promising.

Besides, I've done experiments with paraffin wax orgone wrappings. It's worthless. But natural shellac coated red rosin paper makes a great layer in between the metallic one. That's why I'm not impressed by the man's use of packing tape in the above video. I think this is an issue of working with Mother Nature instead of ignoring her. If electricity comes from the same source as our breath of life, then petroleum byproducts acting as insulators may not be so great after all; especially if it's true that petroleum never came from any living organism, but is a byproduct of the transformation of the Earth's core, or semi-core, materials.

But ultimately, I think that choice of insulator material is a minor improvement area not germane to proof of concept.

I'm a little surprised that Joe Cell research has gotten side-tracked, though. I guess it was too hard to replicate without having a certain skillfulness about it?

As far as circular versus helical windings, are you suggesting that Cook battery windings might have been individual circular windings connected in parallel? If this were the case, you'd essentially have each circular winding acting as a parallel inductor. We know that when windings are connected in parallel, we have multiplication of current. If you could get the individual circular windings to charge by induction from the iron core and discharge into a capacitor, perhaps through a diode, you might then have a kind of push-pull or charge-discharge effect that becomes a self-oscillation.

Interesting idea, push pull. In fact, a bit over my head. I didn't imagine that they were connected at all, let alone in parallel. I just assumed by the sketch that they were all floaters except for the end caps connected to the leads. I am also leery of assuming that it has to be two or more tubes. Didn't the patent specify it could be just one? That could imply a cross coupling between the ends of a single unit coupled to itself and not depicted in the patent, but implied? So in that sense, the guy's demonstration in the video above is reminiscent of Cook's patent.

I did try the cook battery (still wound, but not functioning); perhaps it might be worth trying again from the above perspective.

Any thoughts?
Bob

Edit: Interesting video on DM Cook Here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ylYgUOfUzY

Yes, indeed. Great video. Thanks.

Does push pull imply a capacitive interaction existing between the two pole wound units - if connected per instructions - in this patent's drawings? You mentioned oscillations. I'll guess, not knowing much about these things, that oscillations are a natural consequence to capacitance existing between two coils in resonance? So, I guess I may be getting an education, here? Now, I see why you mentioned oscillations. A sort of simple, driven-by-Nature, pre-Tesla, Tesla coil?

I guess he made the thing so big that it didn't need an aerial. It acted as its own aerial. And if this were grounded, hmmmmm?

[Aaron]

Daniel McFarland Cook

Vinyasi, thanks for bringing this topic back up.

Here is a link to my recent post on the subject: Cook’s Perpetual Electrical Generator | A & P Electronic Media – Digital Publishing by Aaron Murakami & Peter Lindemann

[Vinyasi]

The Ghost in the Cemetary, the Ante-Karana, the Etheric Double of Physical Life.

I don't know. Going by its YouTube comments, the above video doesn't look promising.

Besides, I've done experiments with paraffin wax orgone wrappings. It's worthless. But natural shellac coated red rosin paper makes a great layer in between the metallic one. That's why I'm not impressed by the man's use of packing tape in the above video. I think this is an issue of working with Mother Nature instead of ignoring her. If electricity comes from the same source as our breath of life, then petroleum byproducts acting as insulators may not be so great after all; especially if it's true that petroleum never came from any living organism, but is a byproduct of the transformation of the Earth's core, or semi-core, materials.

But ultimately, I think that choice of insulator material is a minor improvement area not germane to proof of concept.

I remember Charlie Lutes giving a few lectures in Los Angeles in which he mentioned the ghost in the cemetery lingers around the physical corpse and slowly evaporates in parallel to the corpse's slow degradation. That is why he recommended cremation so that we can start our next incarnation with a completely clean slate. Not a concern if we don't come back in a few years or less, though.

But that points out another way to look at the petroleum industry's profferings of insulators. If it's true that ghosts do, in fact, linger around the decaying corpse mirroring its slow decomposition, then that would imply that the use of a natural insulator derived from the remains of a formerly living organism, such as: beeswax, shellac, pine rosin, etc., would also have lingering ghosts of their own imparting their life force to whatever the insulator is associated with!! Because the ghost body is the ante-karana, the etheric bridge as Charlie called it, between the physical and the astral. Without that bridge, we would die for lack of life force.

An anesthesiologist gives us a liability release waver form to fill out and sign should he flub up his job giving us a general anesthetic, because his job is to push the etheric double of the physical body out of the physical -- displace it a bit -- so as to break our ability to sense what they're doing to us on the operating table. Our physical senses pick up sensations, but without the etheric bridge to transfer those sensations to the astral body, no sensation will register with us. For it is the astral body (driven by feelings and desires; urges; self-empowerment) that is ultimately responsible for responding to those sensations before the concrete mind (concerned with material existence) can recognize that anything has happened to us let alone decide what to do about it.

So, in our endeavor to utilize our abstract mind to work out an understanding and appreciation for Nature's secret mysteries, it would make sense to make use of plants and organic materials whenever making improvements to electrically engineered contrivances to get peak efficiency out of them.

[Vinyasi]

You may be on to something: another example of orgone wrapping...

This may sound silly but I am thinking of putting aluminum foil in between the core and primary coil and also inbetween the secondary coil since I ran out of ways to get it working before trying the "multi-core" that was mentioned earlier since I believe it has to atleast function on its own before anything is done to it to enhance or give it new qualities (since now I managed to get it to output 4.5 something volts when the resistors were not present but as a consequence it heated up really quickly and when the resistors were present as prescribed by the patient in both the actual battery and the "cook battery" the heating only became a problem on the resistors which were 10 ohms but the voltage decreased to 0.17-0.26 volts, oh an I also found out that my original multimeter was wonky). Also on the side note I'm wondering what's everyone's result on here regarding this patent?

You may be on to something: another example of orgone wrapping...

[Vinyasi]

Thanks for this link. This is what got me roused....

Vinyasi, thanks for bringing this topic back up.

Here is a link to my recent post on the subject: Cook’s Perpetual Electrical Generator | A & P Electronic Media – Digital Publishing by Aaron Murakami & Peter Lindemann

Thanks for this link. This is what got me roused....

[OrionLightShip]

Has anyone given thought to the fact that the iron core has a hex shaft on the end of it? Perhaps to connect to the power take-off of a tractor or other motive force?

Did the patent office remove the drawings of "circuit D"?

[vidbid]

DMdevices

I'm glad I found this thread. I started a related thread, not knowing of this thread's existence.

My thread is at http://www.energeticforum.com/renewa...land-cook.html

I found a quote by EMdevices which I found interesting to me. He writes:

I remember playing with the Cook coils a few years ago but no OU results. Maybe my coil was too small.

Take a look at the graphic I drew up, and copied some of the relevant text from the patent. Notice that the coils will develop the same magnetic fields polarity. I underlined the text that leads me to this belief. If you don't get it think about it some more.

To start the device just induce a magnetic field between the coils and it will start.

edit: I added another diagram illustrating the "simple" arrangement, with just two coils on two cores. Also I'm showing the starting circuit. If you analyze the current and polarities, it will be apparent that the magnetic field of one core will induce in the other the correct current shown, which builds up the magnetic field even more, so Cook really thought this thing out pretty good. But there is a problem, when he current gets to the max, then once the magnetic field begins to decrease it decreases at a faster and faster rate, just like it went up. It's basically a system with gain and it works both ways, positive feedback on the way up and positive feedback on the way down.

Actually, I think it's an over unity system if used properly. We kick start with the smallest flux and energy, and it builds up from there on its own to the maximum possible level, perhaps until core saturation, at which point we need to disconnect and reap the benefits (capture the kickback) before the magnetic field starts to decrease again on its own and rapidly too due to the positive feedback.

[vidbid]

Well, I took Aaron up on his latest newsletter challenge to see if I could contribute anything to this Daniel McFarland Cook mystery.

Count me foolish, but are those many individual, stacked circular rings of wire comprising each so-called helical winding? Is this another instance of patent-attorney speak for saying one thing and meaning something else? In other words, not helical, but circular windings? I'm learning to appreciate that there is no easy path to free energy. So, this device's design simplicity and ready availability of materials of construction may be amply made up for by its laborious fabrication?





Lots of copper and iron PHMs in here?

Also, I thought it significant that the insulation specified for the wire should not be paraffin wax. Just because the patent alludes to the heat generated by the coils possibly melting the wax, doesn't mean I have to take the patent's explanation literally? Instead, the patents suggest shellac, or silk.

As I recall, the latest theory is that petroleum deposits are not derived from ancient green algae inland seas, or lakes, but are directly fabricated by the Earth from the Earth itself.

If true, then credence is lent to the notion that Tesla's use of pine rosin, beeswax and 5% carnauba wax slathered onto his coils stuffed with cotton in between the windings (according to Mark McKay) may be preferable over rubber or plastic insulators derived from the plastics industry. Mark Mckay also mentioned Delron was the preferred insulator in the EV Gray motor (in a YouTube recording from the summer conference of 2012).

And additional credence may be lent to Karl von Reichenbach's idea that water, metal, silk, resin, and glass comprise the most ideal conductors of Od. I take these five to be filters, not merely conductors, of prana.

The standard theory is that there is only one prana which manifests in five different predominant qualities. Since metal is one of the five, than vyana (circulatory prana) may be conductive of electrical phenomena. Tree resin, or plant sap in general, would be conductive for prana (breath); specifically natural shellac from the lac tree in India, and pine rosin, could qualify.

If petroleum is not a derivative of plant or animal life, then it may have no tendency to transmit life force. In other words, if insulation is the most important component of a conductor (or, inductor?, since radiant energy prefers surfaces), then paying attention to the materials of constructing insulation may be just as important as for constructing the wire or core of this device?

Whenever Nathan Stubblefield specified in his patents for cotton sleeves surrounding his bare copper wires (leaving his iron wires bare), I imagine he would have slathered some natural plant resinous sap, or other naturally occurring material, to coat each and every cotton covering.

EV Gray Motor/Mark McKay Research - YouTube is a really interesting videos. I suggest everyone watch it.

[vidbid]

Starter Circuit



For your consideration..

[Ufopolitics]

Nice Thread...Not Working Results...

Hello to All,

Thanks Vidbid for bringing this Thread back alive...

I see that is has been opened on January 2013...6 years "plus" ago...and no one got the device to work as expected.

Out of all the work I have seen here dedicated to Cook's development THE BEST ONE, was in this site below...where Randall makes beautiful reproductions of Cook's Coils...following detailed explanations of his different tests...with great pictures plus nice and clear diagrams...

Daniel McFarland Cook's Electro-Magnetic Battery


He started in 2001...then an Update below:

UPDATE (August 2001)

He used almost every available Input Signals...As "shorting" (Interrupting Coils) even AC directly on Primary Coils...and that includes a nice PWM Square Wave...

Try to start the device by swiping a powerful magnet along the coils or the core. Try different resistor values. Try shorting the outputs. Try putting light bulbs across each of the two outputs. Test with meter....

Sept 9, 2001 -
- Ran AC current thru coils. More Pictures No power produced.
- They create a large magnetic field. A small rare earth magnet would vibrate when near coils.
- Outputs 50 volts from an input of 115 volts 60 cycles AC.
- Will do more testing, maybe with a pulse of 12 volt DC. (next weekend)

His Conclusions:

Oct 2001 -
- I can NOT make this device work. That does not mean that it never worked.
- The device, AS I BUILT IT, does not work.
- I can not say whether it might work if built to different dimensions or specifications.

The ONLY THING...Randall (and so I believe no one else ever tried...or at least did not mentioned it on his page)...was a Make before Brake Positive Signal

A Smooth, Positive (above zero) Triangle Pyramid or even a Sinewave...which would be Fluctuated by diminishing Currents (NOT, NEVER TO ZERO) to then making them medium and so Higher (Max) to then recycle signal back from Med, Low...etc,etc.

It is very unfortunate...since his builds were so great and nicely put together!!


Regards


Ufopolitics