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  • #16
    Originally posted by tutanka View Post
    Air can be ignited simply respecting simple conditions. I have tested this condition in my latest reactor and the air is transformed in gas and is burned at the same time.

    Papp and Klostermann ignites the air gas to push a piston like in an engine to make electricity.

    What do you do with your gas?

    Cheers

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    • #17
      Originally posted by vrand View Post
      Papp and Klostermann ignites the air gas to push a piston like in an engine to make electricity.

      What do you do with your gas?

      Cheers
      From my experiments I confirm that air can be ignited in particular conditions and appear like methane flame..

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      • #18
        hi, tutanka, I use n2 membrane pt, eec, neodymium mg to product. burnable gas

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        • #19
          Originally posted by tutanka View Post
          From my experiments I confirm that air can be ignited in particular conditions and appear like methane flame..
          Interesting tut, I look forward to seeing your developments. Have you powered an engine with your methane?

          Is the energy output > than input?

          If so, where do you think the extra energy comes from? Nuclear, atomic, electron spin, ZPE, aether or somewhere else?

          Cheers

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          • #20
            Originally posted by vrand View Post
            Interesting tut, I look forward to seeing your developments. Have you powered an engine with your methane?

            Is the energy output > than input?

            If so, where do you think the extra energy comes from? Nuclear, atomic, electron spin, ZPE, aether or somewhere else?

            Cheers
            No methane, the process transform the air in blue flame directly !! Some ionized heat at about 3000°F!! I obtain more of 25Kw of thermal power.
            Last edited by tutanka; 01-19-2013, 09:00 AM.

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            • #21
              Tutanka, your reactor is similar to this?
              Last edited by Franco malgarini; 09-05-2016, 01:38 PM.

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              • #22
                Originally posted by tutanka View Post
                No methane, the process transform the air in blue flame directly !! Some ionized heat at about 3000°F!! I obtain more of 25Kw of thermal power.
                Interesting that you can reach 3000F with just air

                Do you need water in the air, humidity, for the process to work?

                What do you use the 25kw of thermal energy for, what kind of applications? Spin a turbine? Fuel a car engine?

                Cheers

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by tachyon View Post
                  lithium is very important.. about water it's not the key element here , it only helps because of plasma expansion but energy is not coming from water!
                  Where then is the energy coming from? Nuclear, ZPE, aether or something else?
                  Cheers

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by vrand View Post
                    Interesting that you can reach 3000F with just air

                    Do you need water in the air, humidity, for the process to work?

                    What do you use the 25kw of thermal energy for, what kind of applications? Spin a turbine? Fuel a car engine?

                    Cheers

                    Air is as fuel in that reaction.. you can use water for increase the power. The process creates heat ionized in this way I can apply MHD tech for electricity creation.. but not now..

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                    • #25
                      Air Burning

                      Here the small video that prove that really air burning air burning - YouTube

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by Franco malgarini View Post
                        Tutanka, your reactor is similar to this?
                        No sorry .. This is advanced system.. I don't producing ammonia or nitrous oxide.. I use just air as fuel!!

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by tutanka View Post
                          Here the small video that prove that really air burning air burning - YouTube
                          Very interesting, good gas flow. Can the gas fuel an engine (combustion with spark)?
                          Cheers

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by vrand View Post
                            Very interesting, good gas flow. Can the gas fuel an engine (combustion with spark)?
                            Cheers
                            You don't read or you don't want understand

                            The system process air and burn that immediately.

                            You obtain only some ionized heat in output.

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                            • #29
                              Reactor?

                              Originally posted by tutanka View Post
                              Here the small video that prove that really air burning air burning - YouTube
                              Tutanka,
                              Great vid. Are you using a high voltage plasma to ignite the air passing through your reactor.
                              This is what Heinz seemed to be doing with his piston throwing experiment.
                              This is a very thought provoking thread.
                              70% nitrogen in the air we breath.
                              Stephen
                              Potential, is a terrible thing to waste.

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                              • #30
                                Tesla Patent with a friction device supplying the sparc gap with a continuous
                                air flow. Is this the simple condition you are talking about?
                                Do you use magnets in the sparc gap , or would a simple setup like
                                William Lyne 'FES' -Tube work?
                                Please give us a few more hints.

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