The Primer Field

[SilverToGold]

Interesting series of videos on this subject are online and quite interesting for anyone who wants to hear this new theory.

It's related to the magnetic/electrostatic view of the world. Supposedly, there is even a "free energy" device that the originator (David Allen LaPoint) is trying to get a patent on.

Here are the videos (3 out of 7 that are planned to be released).

Primer Fields Part 1
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9EPlyiW-xGI

Primer Fields Part 2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2NogyJ0k8Kw

Primer Fields Part 3
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lpI6ikj1G-s

And here is his energy device patent.



Patent US20080246361 - POWER GENERATION DEVICE - Google Patents

I suggest looking over the videos before trying to interpret his patent.

One thing I found a little misleading was his simplified explanation on light diffraction. His graphics show that the light of different wavelengths having the same shape - but to diffract at different angles, their fields must have different shapes. I'm sure he knows this but maybe in an effort to simplify his theory, left it out.

[Ein~+ein]

The notion of torus-shaped fields have been with us for a long time as stated in the films but I'm not so sure how pivotal a part the patented bowl-shaped magnets are in generating them. For example, a bar magnet is not even round but creates the same torus-shaped magnetic field.

Incidentally, the torus is prominently featured as a symbolic form throughout the recent Zeitgeist Movement-like documentary Thrive: What on Earth Will it Take.

Was Walter Russell the first to suggest the sun gets its energy externally back in the 1930s?

[SilverToGold]

I'm not sure about how pivotal the bowl shaped magnets are either. Even in his patent, he does not show them being used. But to be clear, he indicated that the bar magnet is composed of these magnetic bowl shaped structures. And that these bowl shaped structures are the more primitive structure of magnetism.



But perhaps he was keeping that out of his patent to obscure things? I have no idea but this is only a guess. He seems to be quite certain that the bowl shape is critical because of the unique magnetic structures it creates. You have to watch all of the films to understand his point - which are quite insightful.





As far as the "Zeitgeist Movement", it is nothing more than an attack on Biblical truth - dangerous lies mixed with some useless facts about the puppets of the world stage that seem to be running it all. The movie you listed also contained similar lies about so called "aliens" which are nothing more than demonic forces deceiving the masses. Sorry to say but I don't think the information in it is very reliable.

I believe Tesla may have had an idea that the sun did not derive power of it's own accord. And I have an even earlier source that people knew that the sun was not a hot ball of fire but actually a dark cold energy source. So I don't believe Russell has any priori claim on the sun getting it's energy externally.

The notion of torus-shaped fields have been with us for a long time as stated in the films but I'm not so sure how pivotal a part the patented bowl-shaped magnets are in generating them. For example, a bar magnet is not even round but creates the same torus-shaped magnetic field.

Incidentally, the torus is prominently featured as a symbolic form throughout the recent Zeitgeist Movement-like documentary Thrive: What on Earth Will it Take.

Was Walter Russell the first to suggest the sun gets its energy externally back in the 1930s?

[Sputins]

Part 1.

Interesting series of videos on this subject are online and quite interesting for anyone who wants to hear this new theory.

It's related to the magnetic/electrostatic view of the world. Supposedly, there is even a "free energy" device that the originator (David Allen LaPoint) is trying to get a patent on.

Here are the videos (3 out of 7 that are planned to be released).

Primer Fields Part 1
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9EPlyiW-xGI

Primer Fields Part 2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2NogyJ0k8Kw

Primer Fields Part 3
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lpI6ikj1G-s

And here is his energy device patent.



Patent US20080246361 - POWER GENERATION DEVICE - Google Patents

I suggest looking over the videos before trying to interpret his patent.

One thing I found a little misleading was his simplified explanation on light diffraction. His graphics show that the light of different wavelengths having the same shape - but to diffract at different angles, their fields must have different shapes. I'm sure he knows this but maybe in an effort to simplify his theory, left it out.

Ag 2 Au,

Just watched part one, very intersting stuff. Need to find the time to watch all parts to comment further.

Indeed the plasma experiments (and some lovely plazma displays btw) support the Electric Universe Theory and the Electric Sun. It dosen't look too hard either to be able to replicate the plazma experiment in the backyard lab, providing one has the equipment.

I like how they used neo magnets on the inside/outside of the vacuum chamber to make adjustments to the magnetic bowls.

Thanks for sharing the links.

[SilverToGold]

Glad you enjoyed the video. I think you will really enjoy the later ones, he goes in to more details of his theory and his observations on the magnetic structures of the bowl magnet are very insightful.

His theory supports the hollow sun and planet models also I believe. His patent pending energy machine must show some interesting results if he went through the trouble of patenting it. It is at least worth looking into.

The setup is not that difficult. If you have a vacuum pump, a vacuum chamber, a high voltage source and build the bowl magnets, you're in business!

Let us know what you think of the other videos. I will post the next ones as they come out.

Ag 2 Au,

Just watched part one, very intersting stuff. Need to find the time to watch all parts to comment further.

Indeed the plasma experiments (and some lovely plazma displays btw) support the Electric Universe Theory and the Electric Sun. It dosen't look too hard either to be able to replicate the plazma experiment in the backyard lab, providing one has the equipment.

I like how they used neo magnets on the inside/outside of the vacuum chamber to make adjustments to the magnetic bowls.

Thanks for sharing the links.

[Ein~+ein]

As far as the "Zeitgeist Movement", it is nothing more than an attack on Biblical truth---dangerous lies mixed with some useless facts about the puppets of the world stage that seem to be running it all. The movie you listed also contained similar lies about so called "aliens" which are nothing more than demonic forces deceiving the masses. Sorry to say but I don't think the information in it is very reliable.

Although both films say pretty much the same thing and were intended to provoke at the expense of the truth--at least I know where Peter Joseph's coming from but with Thrive it's much harder--it's too polished. You got it mixed up though, the film demonizes the big banks. The aliens are the good guys, trying to save us by show us how to make free energy devices with their crop circles. Aliens, if you're reading this--we need detailed schematics, not pretty pictures!!!

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Now, back to THE PRIMER FIELDS. There are some interesting comments on a 5 pg thread at Thunderbolts.info (For discussion of Electric Universe and Plasma Cosmology). Here's one:

nick c wrote:
All his experiments involve magnetic fields created by an electric current,

If you watch the whole video, you will find that statement to be incorrect.

First, the magnetic field is provided by two ceramic magnets in the shapes of bowls. These are static magnetic fields, not electrically generated magnetic fields.

Second, in one demonstration he shoots a steel ball up to 25 feet merely by poking through the hole of one of the bowl magnets. The electricity in the experiment is not a current, it is a high voltage electrostatic potential. He states in the video that he was even able to generate the plasma without the anode being present.

I have done my own research in this area, but not involving the bowl shaped magnets. The bowl shaped magnets and their properties are significant discoveries.

Either the patent information is false, or the government has given it a classified status. It is quite possible it has classified status since this invention is providing insights into physics that will significantly change the mainstream understanding of magnetic fields and quantum structures. The things he demonstrated in that hour long video are quite stunning. If there is no patent on the bowl magnets, we should find a ceramic magnet manufacturer who will mass produce these for us.

David LaPointe has definitely done some homework and he has definitely hit pay dirt if the magnets are patentable. However, not all his ideas are quite right.....
Thunderbolts Forum • View topic - The Primer Fields?

[SilverToGold]

Hi Ein~+ein and thank you for the post.

In regards to the films, I would not be so quick to guess at the true angle of any film we watch (be it a hollywood movie or much less an as you say - a "polished" work from the YouTube.)

There are no aliens visiting this earth and there is no advanced technology that they are going to offer us to help us. If either of these were true, they could just come in mass to us all and give it to us. The ONE fact linking these films is that they attack the Bible. The first is obvious, but in "Thrive", the so called aliens are just demons. And they are not good guys. I would love to send you more info on this - if you are curious as to my assertions, please PM me and we can discuss this further.

I don't think we need aliens anyways, perhaps there is enough information in LaPoint's work to tap into the primal forces of energy. If his theory is accurate enough, it could explain many things. And the workings of nature are by evidence, "free energy" with God being the true continual source for all of it.

In regards to the PRIMER FIELDS. I may be incorrect but if I remember correctly, LaPoint stated that the magnetic fields are actually not static but move in some fashion. That is why the electrical charged particles can be seen to oscillate under certain conditions in his experiment. He also relates this to the movement of the spiral arm of galaxies and heavenly bodies.

Although both films say pretty much the same thing and were intended to provoke at the expense of the truth--at least I know where Peter Joseph's coming from but with Thrive it's much harder--it's too polished. You got it mixed up though, the film demonizes the big banks. The aliens are the good guys, trying to save us by show us how to make free energy devices with their crop circles. Aliens, if you're reading this--we need detailed schematics, not pretty pictures!!!

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Now, back to THE PRIMER FIELDS. There are some interesting comments on a 5 pg thread at Thunderbolts.info (For discussion of Electric Universe and Plasma Cosmology). Here's one:

[gene gene]

Hi S to G,
Thanks for keeping us up on these films. I had seen 1&2 awhile back and found #3 quite interesting, looking forward to #4.
I wish I had some of the bowl shaped magnets to experiment with, they do seem to display some rather unusual traits.
From the first film on I have had a feeling that primer fields do seem to make alot of sense in our electric universe. But I will hold my judgment until after I have seen the whole series and most likely more than once.
Thanks again for starting this discussion,
Regards, Gene

[SilverToGold]

Thanks Gene for your input. I am looking forward to the next video in the series and you are right, it's a good idea to have a look at the full set of videos and think them over. But there seems to be quite some interesting things in the information he has already given.

I might try to build one of these bowl shaped magnets. I think a copper bowl, some cylindrical neo magnets strategically glued into place and filling the space left with a resin/magnetite mix might do the job. I'd like to see some of these effects first hand.

[Ein~+ein]

SilverToGold: I've only watched a part of the 1st video but...

a) Does Lapointe claim he can produce free energy from primer fields?

b) If you've watched all the films, what do you know/think of Lapointe's debate with the Electric Universe community?

I'm referring to that Thunderbolts Forum thread. Primer Fields is the top-rated topic with 95 posts on the topic.

b) What does he mean when he says the field always moves?

I only see the plasma sphere change position when he moves the magnets. And iron filings on a sheet of paper above a bar magnet only move when you move the magnet beneath.

Actually, what led me to the Primer Fields, was a response to a thread I started because I was curious about the nature of that field: Is the Magnetic Field around a Wire Harvestable Free Energy?

[SlickDick]

Next videos canceled

Unfortunately the rest is canceled. Lapoint will be posting an explenation on his youtube channel.

[tachyon]

there are ferromagnetic powders that you can mix with a resin.. this idea of ring atoms isn't new at all.. Ring Electron: RING ELECTRON

[jonabel1971]

Tachyon is a Trollbot.

there are ferromagnetic powders that you can mix with a resin.. this idea of ring atoms isn't new at all.. Ring Electron: RING ELECTRON

[Ein~+ein]

Unfortunately the rest is canceled. Lapoint will be posting an explenation on his youtube channel.

Is he OK!? No doubt, the CIA's behind this!!
Better download the videos before they disappear!!!

But seriously, it doesn't surprise me. Having only watched 1/2 of the first video, there's really not a lot of content compared to your average documentary--virtually all of it showing liquid light experiments. Were I to view this on late night TV with the sound off, I'd mistake it for an info-ad.

And what about his free energy 'generator' patented over 5 years ago? Obviously, I didn't watch enough of the first video to see him promoting it. But it's got to be well beyond prototype by now. Anyone know who's licensed to manufacture and distribute it?

[SlickDick]

In my opinion, you opinion isnt valid having watched only half of the first video.

There is no single mention about free energy or a device, its not att all what the primer field videos are about.

Its named 'primer fields' for a reason. Its a new theory that challenges the existing theories wich arent valid considering the number of patches.

His theory is very interresting as it explains a lot in a simple way without need for patches.