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  • #16
    I am sorry to dissapoint you, but if you want ''cheap. easy, fast'' not gonna happen.
    Path to energy is not simple easy or fast or as they say ''as easy as 1, 2, 3''
    .. and what about the upcoming printable solar cells?
    .. and if you plant a seed, you get free energy.

    I disagree. Free energy is easy, but we are too thickheaded to figure it out. I think most of us are looking too much into it and when the solution is found, we'll wonder how we couldnt see it before. Like with flight. What idiot NOW doesnt know how an aeroplane works. Back in 1800, it was one huge feat.

    All things considered, for free "electricity" I believe we need to focus more on making cheaper solar cells. We dont need to look further. But the only IMMEDIATE problem is cost. This will change.

    IMO the earth battery has good potential for the low budget setup. I believe it is more a question of some kind of resonant circuit that tesla no doubt would have developed.

    I believe one of the overlooked principles is that a "spark" creates a displacement of energy in the surrounding space that is greater than the energy we perceived to be used/converted into heat, light & sound. If we can prove the ambient energy displacement is greater, then it can be used.

    I think it was EV Gray's tube / switching element that captured this ambient energy displacement. Tesla also focused much on the burst from rapid discharge.

    As above, so below.

    The rotation of the planets and gravity is energy everywhere. An implosive energy in constant motion. So can this constant motion be harnessed? Surely, but how is another matter.

    We all know the free energy is all around us, but we dont understand it yet.
    Last edited by Hevus; 05-29-2013, 11:33 PM.

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    • #17
      Originally posted by admsjas View Post
      i have a 2500w gas generator i aquired from a death in the family that i have been considering converting to run off of hho boosters in conjuction with water mist for a gasless device. from what i read it will take some serious modification but i think i'm up for the challenge. unless anyone else has a better suggestion.....anyone???

      No modification is necessary. I used to install HHO units before the California Air Board put a stop to that real fast. Some engines respond well, in some cases doubling the fuel efficiency. Others, not so much. It depends on everything from the car's computer to volumes of gases. A simple carbureted engine with no bells and whistles should respond very well to hho. Just route the outlet line from your hho system to the intake manifold. Either before or after the carb works.

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      • #18
        Consider this....

        Two wires, each connected to a 12v car battery terminal. Different polarities, whatever a "polarity" is. We just consider them as opposites.

        When the wires briefly touch, we see a spark. The energy of different polarities rush towards each other, twisting around each other to correct the imbalance. This crushing and interaction "excites" the other energy that facilitates the exchange. We just see the exciting as cool blue/white light and sparky stuff.

        Like with the Bernoulli principle, the faster motion creates pressure (voltage) difference. See attached image. Perhaps the spark is akin to the part of highest pressure. Let's ignore the fact that my example uses a pipe. With a wire, there is no such barrier.

        With the wire and the spark, is it reasonable to expect that no other energy would be displaced from the process we call a "spark"?

        And how can we use this "other displacement"?


        Thats what I believe Grey's Tube did.

        His collector plates would have returned most of the energy to create the "spark" (spiral), then captured the displacement of ambient energy. Perhaps by grounding the collector plates enough to store in capacitors, then convert what we call "static electricity" back to a usable form.

        How easy is it to capture static electricity from a series of HV sparks? What arrangement can be used to capture as much as possible, store it temporarily, then convert it to usable form? Take or leave it.
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        • #19
          Originally posted by chainmailleman View Post
          No modification is necessary. I used to install HHO units before the California Air Board put a stop to that real fast. Some engines respond well, in some cases doubling the fuel efficiency. Others, not so much. It depends on everything from the car's computer to volumes of gases. A simple carbureted engine with no bells and whistles should respond very well to hho. Just route the outlet line from your hho system to the intake manifold. Either before or after the carb works.
          chain,

          i was referring to the pdf available (not for very much longer) from this site:

          http://www.free-energy-info.com/

          in ch 10 there are a couple methods to just run off the gas produced from the hho devices. it requires changing the spark timing, eliminating the waste spark, and changing the timing of the valves. i would prefer to not have to use gasoline if i can avoid it. water falls from the sky and i can collect that for........ u guessed it, FREEEEE!!!!!! if i can run the generator totally with water, it won't satisfy my needs but when i'm sleeping it can pump electricity the other way and should offset my costs. (hoping)

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          • #20
            Free Water ? !

            Originally posted by admsjas View Post

            Water falls from the sky and i can collect that for........ u guessed it, FREEEEE!!!!!!
            Water free? Sorry, not any more!

            I hear today on the radio that in the USA they want to introduce a bill to make it illegal to collect rain water, in even moderate amounts, at least illegal without a licence! This is extremely bad!

            Collecting Rainwater Now Illegal In Many States – 2 May 2013 | Lucas 2012 Infos

            Collecting rainwater now illegal in many states as Big Government claims ownership over our water

            I hope they don’t try and pull that ridiculous law over here! I’ll bet they’ll try. (World-Wide Agenda 21)?
            Next they’ll say breathing air is illegal, or you’ll need a licence, or they’ll tax it. Oh but wait they have, it’s called the Carbon Tax.

            Oh it’s on!
            "Doesn't matter how many times you kick the coyote in the head, it's still gonna eat chickens". - EPD

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            • #21
              Originally posted by admsjas View Post
              chain,

              i was referring to the pdf available (not for very much longer) from this site:

              http://www.free-energy-info.com/

              in ch 10 there are a couple methods to just run off the gas produced from the hho devices. it requires changing the spark timing, eliminating the waste spark, and changing the timing of the valves. i would prefer to not have to use gasoline if i can avoid it. water falls from the sky and i can collect that for........ u guessed it, FREEEEE!!!!!! if i can run the generator totally with water, it won't satisfy my needs but when i'm sleeping it can pump electricity the other way and should offset my costs. (hoping)

              Without gasoline..... It's possible without modification. When I was 16 I built a fairly large HHO generator and only used hydrogen to start and idle my mustang's 302 for about 10 seconds. The problem is in acceleration. The engine didn't respond to the throttle. It just dies. So if you can find a way to maintain the flow of gases into the intake, and regulate them, then it's a major possibility.

              Now on to energy. These systems drain your car's starting battery because of the terrible inefficiencies every step of the way. Your engine, by it's very nature only uses about a 1/5 of the energy to produce mechanical motion, the rest is wasted.

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