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  • #61
    Shut Up Prompt...

    Originally posted by promt View Post
    Hi, inv-master;
    Keep going no matter what !!
    Look how many claimers of OU were here - Zilano; Cosmo - 5-10kWt of OU having at home;
    Stivep - "working OU";
    ProfessorGravity - AG thruster;
    Ufopolitics - "WE GOT IT, OU!! skeptics are speechless!!"
    And what?? They all gone! All, but ufo! Cuz they have it and using it , and ufo's still here - cuz it's not working , he was laughing at you, and now he goes "good luck", what a chameleon.
    So, If you have it - just enjoy it, get profit of it, and when you ready just hit the World!!
    Of course if you need help - bring it here, there's bunch of very clever, sober and smart people around, they will point you the best way.
    Courage!!

    Shut Up Prompt!...Take your pills and just go back and keep creating those awesome great threads you have made in the past...


    Maybe you could get at 500,000 views before its first year birthday...

    Yeah right!


    @Inventionmaster: Be careful with Prompt...He is from the Oil side...works here part time...so, whatever he tells you to do...always do the "opposite"...
    Last edited by Ufopolitics; 05-12-2013, 01:40 AM.
    Principles for the Development of a Complete Mind: Study the science of art. Study the art of science. Develop your senses- especially learn how to see. Realize that everything connects to everything else.― Leonardo da Vinci

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    • #62
      Vibes.

      Hello inventionmaster, i can now see why vibration is a problem.

      Regards Cornboy.

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      • #63
        Originally posted by Ufopolitics View Post
        "If You take off the Counterweights from ANY Gas Engine...even balancing crankshaft...you will NEVER turn that Generator"
        Ufopolitics
        But I had the generator turning just yesterday. I haven't had it turning today because I'm building a new mount for it. What I'm doing already works. I just haven't put it through a heavy stress test yet. I'll be doing heavy stress tests after I've done a video so that everyone can see it working

        BTW:
        It seems to start up pretty smooth. It seems to only shake after it has reached maximum rpm (3600). That's why I previously stated earlier that its in easy problem to fix if I had welding equipment. With welding equipment I would totally redesign the shaft and body into the perfect machine. Even though not yet perfect it does spin and very well.

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        • #64
          Originally posted by Cornboy 555 View Post
          Hello inventionmaster, i can now see why vibration is a problem.

          Regards Cornboy.
          Yeah I figured and suspected that to be the problem but was not 100% sure of the vibration problem until people had a better idea with what I was doing. That's why I would love to rebuild the shaft but I just have to use what I have. As a matter of fact when I get the chance to just rebuild everything that's when I'll have a machine that will be super

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          • #65
            Originally posted by Ufopolitics View Post
            Shut Up Prompt!...Take your pills and just go back and keep creating those awesome great threads you have made in the past...


            Maybe you could get at 500,000 views before its first year birthday...

            Yeah right!


            @Inventionmaster: Be careful with Prompt...He is from the Oil side...works here part time...so, whatever he tells you to do...always do the "opposite"...
            No, Ufo, pills it's your department , everybody know it!
            I'm just saying what it is; not my problem if you can't handle it.
            What?? 500k clicks and still nothing? Don't make me laugh.

            Yes' I'm on Oil side, to use it wise until get something better, you will know first .
            So get lost in your ass-cemetery hole.
            Let the man fight his war, inv-master - booo - beware!!
            Last edited by promt; 05-12-2013, 02:36 AM.

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            • #66
              Originally posted by inventionmaster View Post
              But I had the generator turning just yesterday. I haven't had it turning today because I'm building a new mount for it. What I'm doing already works. I just haven't put it through a heavy stress test yet. I'll be doing heavy stress tests after I've done a video so that everyone can see it working

              BTW:
              It seems to start up pretty smooth. It seems to only shake after it has reached maximum rpm (3600). That's why I previously stated earlier that its in easy problem to fix if I had welding equipment. With welding equipment I would totally redesign the shaft and body into the perfect machine. Even though not yet perfect it does spin and very well.

              Yes, you do rotate it cause you have a full crankshaft including the counterweights.

              Now, related to vibration...the reason why is because there is no balance between the Magnetic force and the counterweight reaction...and no, you do not need welding or shop equipment to fix that...listen:

              Try cutting parts of the counterweights BUT in order that they could be screwed back by tapping holes...then you start playing with weight reduction there...Or you could just drill holes and replace them by different sized bolts, nuts, etc


              Meaning, by reducing the counterweights value...till you are balanced with magnetic forces, enough that counterweight center, go above the required angle passed piston center virtual line...from there "it falls by gravity plus the magnetic push.

              Just do this little by little(taking weights off counterweights)...not too much...but still, you only have one piston engine in that type of Coleman Generator assy...so it is not too complicated.

              Eventually that operation has to be done more "professionally"...

              Regards
              Principles for the Development of a Complete Mind: Study the science of art. Study the art of science. Develop your senses- especially learn how to see. Realize that everything connects to everything else.― Leonardo da Vinci

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              • #67
                Originally posted by Ufopolitics View Post
                Yes, you do rotate it cause you have a full crankshaft including the counterweights.

                Now, related to vibration...the reason why is because there is no balance between the Magnetic force and the counterweight reaction...and no, you do not need welding or shop equipment to fix that...listen:

                Try cutting parts of the counterweights BUT in order that they could be screwed back by tapping holes...then you start playing with weight reduction there...Or you could just drill holes and replace them by different sized bolts, nuts, etc


                Meaning, by reducing the counterweights value...till you are balanced with magnetic forces, enough that counterweight center, go above the required angle passed piston center virtual line...from there "it falls by gravity plus the magnetic push.

                Just do this little by little(taking weights off counterweights)...not too much...but still, you only have one piston engine in that type of Coleman Generator assy...so it is not too complicated.

                Eventually that operation has to be done more "professionally"...

                Regards
                Nice I was just about to fiqure out how to go about explaining that I believe that counterweights are still connected right before I saw that you intently figured it out. Nice

                As I was continuing to gut my very first generator " give me a moment ) I noticed what appeared to be the balancing counterweights I was reading about (researched the engine before gently pounding it open with a sledge hammer but after I removed the bolts of course. "I was getting impatient with it ). Anyway when I first started to remove the counterweight my mind was like starting to feel unbalanced so I backed off. I like to put myself in the machines shoes (what ever I'm working on) I pretend I'm the machine and from that point I imagine how I work and how different modifications will effect me.

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                • #68
                  Definitively...

                  Originally posted by inventionmaster View Post
                  Nice I was just about to fiqure out how to go about explaining that I believe that counterweights are still connected right before I saw that you intently figured it out. Nice
                  Yes, the Counterweights...

                  [IMG][/IMG]

                  In that Pic...is the "Shaft Assy"...includes: Piston Arm, Crankshaft and Counterweight.

                  Now, if you are to drill holes on it to reduce weight...do it at bottom face (side that faces Oil Pan floor when Piston is up) >>> =D<<<drill here...

                  As I was continuing to gut my very first generator " give me a moment ) I noticed what appeared to be the balancing counterweights I was reading about (researched the engine before gently pounding it open with a sledge hammer but after I removed the bolts of course. "I was getting impatient with it ). Anyway when I first started to remove the counterweight my mind was like starting to feel unbalanced so I backed off. I like to put myself in the machines shoes (what ever I'm working on) I pretend I'm the machine and from that point I imagine how I work and how different modifications will effect me.
                  Yeah, You could amplify the magnetic intensity but then you will use more energy...so the way to go is to take weight off from them.

                  By the way, I do same thing..."Become the Machine"...it is a "Duality Process" we do in order to understand what's going on...

                  As you could also become electronic flow through a circuit...or magnetic flux in a field...


                  Regards

                  I will leave you alone...since Prompt ask me to...
                  Principles for the Development of a Complete Mind: Study the science of art. Study the art of science. Develop your senses- especially learn how to see. Realize that everything connects to everything else.― Leonardo da Vinci

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                  • #69
                    @Inventionmaster,

                    [IMG][/IMG]

                    This is a relation of forces you must always consider when replacing the Explosion Forces from the Gas-Diesel Farting Machines...

                    F1 (Red Arrow at Piston) is the downward parallel to cylinder chamber explosion force when fuel is compressed in a previous stage also at TDC (Top Dead Center) . Note there must always be an angle (never straight 180º) between shaft-counterweight axis (Gray-blue intermittent line) and F1 Vector (Red Intermittent line)...but that comes already in your Gas -piece of farting crap- design...

                    I set the Vertical Plane as a reference (Green Int. Line) in order for you to realize... that your new force perfect balancing consists in passing that green line, after F1 pushes down piston/rotates c-weight. (This is your "border line limit" of required weight loss at counterweights (If it does not passes...it needs more weight or Increase force at F1).

                    It is a very simple old, dinosaur, ancient invention...and actually you could realize that by increasing the distance between counterweight rotating pivot point-shaft and Main Shaft...then apply another Ancient Law...The Lever and Point...it will reduce the required Piston Force (F1) by far to achieve a stronger force F2...as it will INCREASE the Hammering Effect (F3)...Since all we are doing...is elongating the Hammer Handle on the downfall cycle...

                    And of course a very strong repulsive magnetic field from both ends (Piston and Head), and at high pulses and collapse (T-On/T-Off) will generate much more force (F1) than the Fossil Fuel Hydrocarbons explosions (Farts)...

                    ...And Both Coils must be collapsed at Exact Sync/Timing, in order that at off times we get Radiant Reverse Forces In, to assist our Rotational Forces...

                    As it will be also understood that this Method is Modular, so it can be expanded...it could be set as a Rotary Engine (Marine Outboards)...as "In Line" Cylinders...or the well known "V" Blocks Structures...

                    Regards


                    Ufopolitics
                    Last edited by Ufopolitics; 05-12-2013, 04:39 AM.
                    Principles for the Development of a Complete Mind: Study the science of art. Study the art of science. Develop your senses- especially learn how to see. Realize that everything connects to everything else.― Leonardo da Vinci

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                    • #70
                      Originally posted by inventionmaster View Post
                      I pretend I'm the machine and from that point I imagine how I work and how different modifications will effect me.
                      Nicely put!! I like it!
                      Now picture this - your mind is a computer, you put all needed data of modifications in it, and get results of best performance without affects of brain's unsufficiency (lack of education, emotions, errors of assumptions, etc).
                      So, get an idea in comp and IT gives you cold truth; that's how we're designing a motors nowadays, and they're not 25% COP (ufo's statement ), but around 90!!
                      Hope yours motor-generator easy can get 100 and more without any computers, seems you do not need one.
                      But, sorry to say, I smell another endless show here; you can stay ufo .
                      Those who have OU (masters, professors ) have no needs in forums.
                      Now it's my turn to say good luck!

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                      • #71
                        Ufopolitics-SHUT THE F**K UP!!

                        This is specifically for 'Ufopolitics',
                        What is your f**king problem? If you don't like what 'Inventionmaster' is saying; or you aren't happy with HIS timeline for information release, then read (& post) in a different thread. Who do you think you are? You talk like you speak for everyone on this forum and I promise you, you DO NOT. Your frustration with 'I.M.' only makes you come across as a whiney little bit*h. I chose to read this thread because I wanted to hear what 'I.M.' has to say. I did not choose this thread to listen to someone whine and cry and badmouth the author of this thread. You know exactly what 'I.M.' allows you to know and that has you all twisted. STFU! Jealousy is a mofo, isn't it? Pu**y.

                        Press On Inventionmaster!

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                        • #72
                          Originally posted by ewizard View Post
                          First it would NOT be perpetual motion. Crying 'perpetual motion' is the first sign I see from those who are still thinking inside the box. It would simply mean it is getting energy from an unseen source. Just like a solar cell 100 years ago would seem like perpetual motion or magic as they would not have known that simple sunlight was the source of the electricity.
                          Yes, it would. Seems ewizard didn't read inventormaster's description:
                          Once it's started the external power source can then be disconnected and the generator will then run on its own power while leaving behind an ample supply of power to be used for other things (refrigerator, tv, microwave, etc).

                          ... or rejects the commonly accepted definition of perpetual motion:
                          the motion of a hypothetical machine which, once activated, would run forever unless subject to an external force or to wear

                          Solar-cell (powered devices), wind turbines, diesel engines, etc are not perpetual motion machines as they rely upon an external source of power that once removed, stops them. Even our solar system is not a perpetual motion machine as once the sun burns up its fuel, that's it.

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                          • #73
                            Originally posted by Ein~+ein View Post
                            Yes, it would. Seems ewizard didn't read inventormaster's description:
                            Once it's started the external power source can then be disconnected and the generator will then run on its own power while leaving behind an ample supply of power to be used for other things (refrigerator, tv, microwave, etc).

                            ... or rejects the commonly accepted definition of perpetual motion:
                            the motion of a hypothetical machine which, once activated, would run forever unless subject to an external force or to wear

                            Solar-cell (powered devices), wind turbines, diesel engines, etc are not perpetual motion machines as they rely upon an external source of power that once removed, stops them. Even our solar system is not a perpetual motion machine as once the sun burns up its fuel, that's it.
                            Seems you missed ewizards point. A machine running itself IS using an external force.
                            Gravity and magnetism themselves are external forces. Maybe its source of power is the aether. That is external.
                            Anyone with half a brain should know perpetual motion is not eternal motion.
                            The universe itself wont last eternally. Perpetual simply means something that persists.

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                            • #74
                              yup, also all nuclear plants are impossible because of perpetuum mobile

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                              • #75
                                Originally posted by Ufopolitics View Post
                                This is a relation of forces you must always consider when replacing the Explosion Forces from the Gas-Diesel Farting Machines...

                                Ufopolitics
                                Thanks for the info Ufopolitics.

                                With enough mods I bet I could create an engine that would run in this manner (edited pic). When energized I would have some kind of super magnetic force yank down the piston (rebuilt with different material) at such a high force that it would be able to completely replace the explosion. Maybe each cylinder would act as some sort of rail gun chamber. The chambers firing sequence would be similar to the original. As a matter of fact I would build a new type of engine block that would even further aid in the firing process and downwards force. I would most likely even add an upwards force for additional power and it wouldn't stop there. I could come up with all sorts of ways to make it work
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