Running gasoline vehicles off water

[inventionmaster]

A project I worked on a couple of years ago. I'll share any and all info on this project.

[inventionmaster]

Since this project is like 2 years old I'm pretty much completely open about it.

Anything you want to know just ask and yes it did work. There was so much conspiracies surrounding the possibility that I developed my own theory (2 years ago) and it proved nearly perfect. I'm not trying to sell anything about this particular project so if you think it's fake then just look the other way however if you are interested in the tech and real possibilities of running vehicles off water and things I personally learned from it with my own experiments and designs then welcome

[SilverToGold]

Hi inventionmaster,

How is your system different from a standard HHO system on many cars today? Are you are claiming that the car was ran 100% off water?

Can you tell us the basic theory behind your system?

[shylo]

Alt guage

Hi IM, In the photo of the gas gage , the alt gage is reading around 10 volts.
Does your system require a lot of power?
shylo

[inventionmaster]

Hi inventionmaster,

How is your system different from a standard HHO system on many cars today? Are you are claiming that the car was ran 100% off water?

Can you tell us the basic theory behind your system?

Sure and no offense to anyone but I consider not all but most HHO devices out there to be complete garbage. No offense to anyone

When I was a kid I did kid experiments. Now that I'm an adult I do adult experiments and if you or I make a mistake while doing adult experiments it can prove to be lethal.

How I performed the test:
The vehicle sat in the driveway out of gas for about a week. I decided at that point that instead of putting more gas in it I should go ahead and test my theories surrounding the whole HHO thing. I spent like a whole week prepping the plates and preparing for the test and when I was like half way done with it I became impatient and hooked a long hose to it and into the intake connected to the engine but before I did that I tried and tried for like 10 minutes to crank the vehicle but it would not crank because it was out of gas.

After trying to crank more than 15 times I was confident enough to test. I powered up the device and heard the many HHO bubbles floating to the engine. After about 4 minutes I was like "OK I'm ready" and I was scared because at that moment I was not sure if it would blow me up or not but in the name of science and engineering I turned the key.

To my amazement and to the amazement of witnesses it started as if I had just filled it with premium gas. When I revved it I never heard it sound so powerful.

There were some changes I made to the vehicle in order to increase my chances of success.

1st. Upgraded the alternator to a 300 amp.
2nd. Upgraded the battery to a deep cycle marine battery with 1150 CCA.
3rd. Hooked up some heavy gauge wires.
4th. Drilled a decent size hole into the intake so the HHO could get in.
5th. Prayed that the generator (HHO) would not blow me up.

This HHO stuff is super dangerous. Once I was wondering if my machine was as powerful as my calculations predicted and I tested it the most dumb way possible. I took a lighter and lit it at the input and flames engulfed it along with a huge pop plus it was tested indoors and once I forgot to turn off the HHO generator after turning of the engine and the HHO had accumulated all around the vehicle and one spark could have blew up the vehicle and myself into like allot of peaces.

After surviving stupidity (and further modifications) I found a way to produce 40 parts hydrogen and 5 parts oxygen. This means that there is so little oxygen and so much more hydrogen that the hydrogen actually does not burn until it mixes with more air. It very rarely ever backfires and even when it does the device will never explode because what's coming out is not too far from being pure hydrogen.

[inventionmaster]

Hi IM, In the photo of the gas gage , the alt gage is reading around 10 volts.
Does your system require a lot of power?
shylo

Only about 80 amps that version will not work without vehicle upgrades though

Although I do have some far more efficient theories

[inventionmaster]

OK the vehicle will start and idle off of it but at the time I have never did a test drive (no tag)

The system is a 4 generator design and each generator (HHO) is meant to be set at around 10 or 20 amps. I'm pretty sure that four generators would be enough to completely get rid of the gas tank. I had theorized (after doing some calculations) that just one generator should be more than sufficient enough to start and idle the engine and that theory proved correct however at the time I ran out of money and could never afford to build the full 4 generator system.

Regardless just one generator is efficient enough to start and idle the vehicle while it is out of gas. Even though that project was never fully completed it's still something that worked far better than expected.

[ewizard]

Nice work. Now that I'm seeing some pictures and some examples of how you innovate (I noticed the rubber plumbing 4" to 2" ? pipe adapter) and your box of wiring and switches your self running generator in the other thread seems even more real. For a minute there seeing that box of switches I flashed back to thinking I was looking at John Titor's Time travel controls.

Did you use a pre-built PWM unit or build your own? Frequency? Right now I'm looking at George Wiseman's gas vaporization plans (which I bought) as he says it is even more efficient than using HHO to supplement gas. But of course not more cost efficient than running off pure water with no gas.

[Ufopolitics]

Turbo Charge it?

OK the vehicle will start and idle off of it but at the time I have never did a test drive (no tag)

The system is a 4 generator design and each generator (HHO) is meant to be set at around 10 or 20 amps. I'm pretty sure that four generators would be enough to completely get rid of the gas tank. I had theorized (after doing some calculations) that just one generator should be more than sufficient enough to start and idle the engine and that theory proved correct however at the time I ran out of money and could never afford to build the full 4 generator system.

Regardless just one generator is efficient enough to start and idle the vehicle while it is out of gas. Even though that project was never fully completed it's still something that worked far better than expected.

Hello Inventionmaster,


Great excellent work!!...and it looks simple to replicate.

Now, did You ever tried to set vehicle at Mechanical Load by shifting to Drive/Gear while stepping on brakes...and accelerate it?

This simple way, you would have tested the engine on load, not just idling, without moving.

Another question is:

Since You wrote before:

I found a way to produce 40 parts hydrogen and 5 parts oxygen. This means that there is so little oxygen and so much more hydrogen that the hydrogen actually does not burn until it mixes with more air. It very rarely ever backfires and even when it does the device will never explode because what's coming out is not too far from being pure hydrogen.

If it Exhaust such high Hydrogen levels...wouldn't be a good idea to add a Turbo Charger in order to Cool it, Compress it and Inject it back through a Plenum Pipe to Inlet Manifold?

I believe this way the , not burnt, exhausted Hydrogen gets Recycled , saving electrical draw and usage of Generators.

Why didn't you keep developing this System further on?...lack of funds?...Or did you get to complete a driving vehicle?

Regards


Ufopolitics

[Ein~+ein]

Nice work, inventormaster! Seems you've taken my advice (photos and all.)

[Cornboy 555]

Precious H2O.

Hello everyone, i don't belong here, but just had to put my 2 cent's worth in.

There are a lot of dedicated and honest people working on this technology, but in the long run, do we really want to substitute using gas for using another precious substance? WATER?

I'm sorry i just don't get it!

Regards Cornboy.

[Duncan]

Hello everyone, i don't belong here, but just had to put my 2 cent's worth in.

There are a lot of dedicated and honest people working on this technology, but in the long run, do we really want to substitute using gas for using another precious substance? WATER?

I'm sorry i just don't get it!

Regards Cornboy.

Interesting logic Cornboy do you really think there is a shortage of water ? Do you actually think it is “used up”? I would contend there is pretty much as much water on our world as there ever has been after all where can it go? True it may temporarily be inside you or perhaps a cow or some other animal the sea or a river but of course it will eventually complete its natural cycle.
The huge irrigation system that is our world has been carrying on this phenomenal cycle for millions of years. If all the water in the aether were to return to earth at once every land mass would be covered by at least 3 yards of water.
The energy and power required to lift that weight of water up to the troposphere and move it around the planet gives some indication of the level of “free energy” there is available. The only thing that makes these commodities “Precious” as you say is the use, claim and “ownership” of these natural resources by people ,governments , banksters and others who have no right to god given assets .
The way this works with your so called “precious” oil is clearly pointed out by these two aged video clips (1 in three parts)
The Energy Non-Crisis- Lindsay Williams -Truth about Oil and Oil prices - YouTube
John Perkins, Part 1 at the VFP National Convention - YouTube
John Perkins, Part 2 at the VFP National Convention - YouTube
John Perkins, Part 3 at the VFP National Convention - YouTube
Precious ? Yes of course to life. ... and life is surly precious... that is should be but Its being made a misery for Billions of people by the controllers. And their muppets “the banksters” who's actual contribution to society is only …. Misery (except for themselves and their masters of course)
George Carlin - The American Dream on Vimeo
The key phrase in Georges skit Cornboy being “well educated erudite people who realise …”
Water is precious you are right … oil is precious to … as are all natural things what they are not is scarce. (as I hope you now see) Many people have fractured water and made useful machines. None of them has made it into the public arena. Some have been murdered some bribed some threatened or shuffled off into some government agency ….. for whatever reason there is none in common circulation is there Inventionmaster ? I like your ambition to be the first however in order to separate your particular effort from the hundreds that have gone before (and failed) may I respectfully suggest that you outline a thoroughly as possible your system on a PDF .. principles, schematics, circuit diagrams layout so we may download the whole basic concept in one shot …. Then of course we can all gauge the thing and our abilities .
Start ordering bits and test equipment. If you should stop posting (for whatever reason) we would also have enough detail to finish the project .In the meantime happy in the knowledge that you will continue to post and help other members to duplicate your system
Kind regards Duncan

[Zardox]

Hi Duncan. In respect to the idea of water being recycled by the planet I beleive you are absolutely correct.
However if it is salt water or polluted it does not do us that much good.
In the area where I live there are ethanol plants through out the region and the people that live in the surrounding areas are having their wells go dry.
The same thing is happening around these big plants that package bottled water. (Don't get me started on that one)
In the southwestern US they have been irrigating since the dust bowl from an underground aquafer that was created at the time of the last ice age and is quickley running out.
There are probably many more examples around the globe.
With that said I have a good well and if I could I would probably run my car on water if I could figure out how.

[Duncan]

Hi Duncan. In respect to the idea of water being recycled by the planet I beleive you are absolutely correct.
However if it is salt water or polluted it does not do us that much good.
In the area where I live there are ethanol plants through out the region and the people that live in the surrounding areas are having their wells go dry.
The same thing is happening around these big plants that package bottled water. (Don't get me started on that one)
In the southwestern US they have been irrigating since the dust bowl from an underground aquafer that was created at the time of the last ice age and is quickley running out.
There are probably many more examples around the globe.
With that said I have a good well and if I could I would probably run my car on water if I could figure out how.

Quite right Zardox .. There are huge area's of the world suffering horribly for the want of fresh clean water , The natural state of affairs is being radically altered. Using fossil based fuels is having a disastrous effects on the morals of this world quite apart from very evident practical effects you note. The truth is the fact that totally free energy is available was discovered by Tesla nearly a 140 years ago. Because he didn't understand it It brought the first High voltage A/C grid system to its knees . Killing operators and causing explosions which were not understood . It took a hunch back German dwarf Steinmetz to mathematically resolve the disaster.
Charles Proteus Steinmetz: The Man Who Made Lightning - undated - YouTube
phenomenal practical scientist as he was Tesla was not immaculate … he had bad hair days too!
The cure however proved worse than the disease... The investors did not want to hear … ohhhh good news … Its all fixed and by the way you don't need any of that smelly oil and coal any more
Of course the information was “buried” The relevant Steinmetz books were “out of print” and likewise buried., as for does water fracture work .. of course it does .. and has been known for years, It is the way things should have been done but what of the Banksters? And the other parasites?
As a side effect fracturing cleans up polluted water and desalinates salt water.. BUT IT AINT FOR JOE PUBLIC ! Do you think the controlling parasites are going to kill the milch cow?
It is clear that they would rather destroy the world and most that live on it.
Fracturing waste and obtaining fuel and fresh water has been going on a long time. Here is a 1898 patent converting household sewage and water into usable gas
Patent US603058 - ELECTRICAL RETORT - Google Patents
That principle has been amplified by among many others Ruggero Santilli and marketed to municipalities and airports under the trade name Magnegas .. a very basic demonstration is shown here The principles of Ruggero Santilli demostrated - YouTube
here's a bit of splurge MagneGas Powering Ahead as Energy Alternative - YouTube … forget the finance bollix and the “waiting 80 years” it has clearly been around for 120 years or more …. and as for a free energy unit for Joe public … fat chance suckers! Not till the rotten corporate system and the “petro dollar” and all its parasites and their lies are busted.
One of Santilli's systems is working in Sweden’s airport very effectively, quite a few are operational in Spain other Machines have been shipped from Santiilli's workshop in Tarpon Springs Pennsylvania to Cyprus .. there is no doubt the systems work …. can Inventionmaster provide the missing link that brings it in reach of the average Joe and his garage construction? If not then we stay locked in the same vicious circle.
Best wishes Duncan

[inventionmaster]

Did you use a pre-built PWM unit or build your own? Frequency? Right now I'm looking at George Wiseman's gas vaporization plans (which I bought) as he says it is even more efficient than using HHO to supplement gas. But of course not more cost efficient than running off pure water with no gas.

I designed and built my own PWM and everything else. After reading so many reviews on the Internet about the stuff being a scam I decided that I would have a better chance of it working if I built my own design from my own theories. Even though it worked I had to quit after I ran out of money but not before getting extremely promising results

I think the chip I was using was like a LM324 op-amp and some high amp transistors and a few other things. I'm not trying to hide anything on this one. It's just that I have not worked on it in the last 2 years because of financial difficulties. Even so this project was so much fun and I plan to fully complete it when I get a chance to do so.

Just one HHO gen was enough to start and idle the vehicle and 3 more was to be needed in order to not need any regular gas ever again. One day (when I can afford to do so) I plan to build at least around 7 smaller HHO generators, run them each at lower power settings, and program a cpu chip to control them along with the engine itself. I plan to ditch the vehicles current ECU and build my own (after extracting all of the timing info).

If I ever make any good money I plan to build a totally self efficient vehicle that will power itself (already have some promising designs in mind) but this particular topic is about HHO and engines.