Running gasoline vehicles off water

[SilverToGold]

Thanks inventionmaster for the details.

I would like to know what type of cell you used... how many plates and how large they were. Also any details on the power consumed by the cell would be nice also... what voltage and current.

Interesting work, thanks for sharing.

[logos]

nice thread and great work!
i look forward to watching this develop!

[Cornboy 555]

Ah Ha.

Point taken, and digested, Duncan, Thanks.

Regards Cornboy.

[inventionmaster]

Thanks inventionmaster for the details.

I would like to know what type of cell you used... how many plates and how large they were. Also any details on the power consumed by the cell would be nice also... what voltage and current.

Interesting work, thanks for sharing.

As far the type of cell I used well.....I kind of designed and tested/used several and of different sizes. The best setup that produced the best result was long stainless steel screws around 7 or so inches long. At the moment I can't remember if it was the positive or the negative that produce hydrogen but I think it was the negative that produced hydrogen. I can verify later or if you are anyone know then feel free to refresh my memory.

Anyway (assuming its the negative that produces hydrogen) take 5 of the long stainless steel threaded rods (bought from home depot). Sand them down the best you can without too much damage to the threads. I used nylon nuts to separate them. After they're sanded nice and well all over clean them very well with 90 percent rubbing alcohol. Keep them super clean and wear super clean gloves to handle them or make sure you wash your hands thoroughly with soap and water as its important to keep them super clean. Any dirt, oil, sweat, or anything will lower performance.

Take some nylon nuts and place 2 of them on the top and bottom of each rod. On each side of the rod tighten the pair of nuts tightly together so they will not move. The setup that worked best for me was 1 rod in the middle and four rods surrounding the middle rod. The middle rod will be the hot and the five rods surrounding the middle rod will be ground wired in parallel but make sure the wires coming from each ground rod are the same length. Solder the wires onto the bolt and then use heat shrink to protect the contact points from getting wet.

Carefully secure the now wired rods with high heat wire ties. Remember that the outer rods have to evenly surround the middle rod. After carefully balancing the rods and tightening the ties lay it on a clean surface. This is the fun part

After all of that hard work you now have to build 4 more just like it and after you are done find a clean or new mason jar big enough to hold your hydrogen cell. You must wire tie all five cells together evenly and square like. Drill three holes into the lid of the mason jar. The hole in the middle must be big enough to attach an adapter of some sort for your hose to connect to which will be the path the hydrogen takes. The other two holes will be used for a ten gauge hot (red/black wire) to go through. Connect/solder all black wires from the cells to the black and same for the reds. Seal the holes with some high heat water resistant gasket maker of some kind. Find some distilled water and high grade lab quality lye.

The lye will eat through your skin so never make skin contact with it. When adding this high quality lye to the water it can take an hour for it to become fully activated so allot of patience is required. When hooked into a power supply make sure to do it outside or risk blowing yourself up if done indoors. Hydrogen becomes extremely explosive and dangerous when it accumulates in an enclosed area. When it accumulates within the cylinders of an engine it will exploded within the cylinders from the spark coming off the spark plugs and those explosions will cause the engine to run

Unfortunately the HHO control system is not yet perfected. Works but more things has to be done with it although one can buy an already built PWM on ebay somewhere.

This is kind of what I used in the most promising build so far but if anyone tries to build this thing I'm not responsible if you blow yourself or your vehicle up as I have almost done. I consider this build to work but it is outdated as I have far more advanced designs in mind that will be far more efficient and safer then this one.

[truesearch]

@inventionmaster

Please post several photos of your "jar-cells". I'd like to visualize a little better what you're describing.

Thanks!
truesearch

[inventionmaster]

@inventionmaster

Please post several photos of your "jar-cells". I'd like to visualize a little better what you're describing.

Thanks!
truesearch

When I was working on this project 2 years ago I had borrowed a neighbors camera and took excellent pictures of the 5 cell gen. A few weeks later I went to retrieve the sd card in the camera to copy them to my computer only to find out that someone had stole the sd card. Because of that I currently have no available photos of the 5 cell gen however I do plan to rebuild it sometime soon but I don't know when. When I do rebuild it I'll take step by step pictures. That way anyone can improve on that specific design. Even though I have far more advanced designs in mind I will not know how well they work until they're built/tested.

The cell you see hooked to the engine is a very long cell design that did not produce the best performance even though it kind of worked but not nearly as good as the 5 cell gen I described building.

Regardless of what my final perfect design will be I still treasure the one I lost the pictures to because out of about five different designs the 5 cell gen had the best performance plus it looked very nice.

[ewizard]

Point taken, and digested, Duncan, Thanks.

Regards Cornboy.

Cornboy, There is an incredible amount of water on the planet but it is often not in the right place or in a readily consumable state (salt water or polluted). What we need is an energy source that can move water cheaply to where it's needed and to make it consumable cheaply. I believe that energy source or sources are already well known to the PTB. If we can get them to release their greedy hold on these energy sources there will be plenty of water for all our needs and where it is needed.

[Cornboy 555]

Stopgap.

Cornboy, There is an incredible amount of water on the planet but it is often not in the right place or in a readily consumable state (salt water or polluted). What we need is an energy source that can move water cheaply to where it's needed and to make it consumable cheaply. I believe that energy source or sources are already well known to the PTB. If we can get them to release their greedy hold on these energy sources there will be plenty of water for all our needs and where it is needed.

@ Ewizard, i still strugle with the concept of water as fuel, unless you build combustion engines of a radical new design, without all the horrible oily and greasy parts, without the need for toxic coolants, ETC, ETC, ETC, terribly noisy, extreme heat producing, exhausting,(although cleaner on hho), into the air.

I understand that this tech can be made available quite cheaply, and can be retrofitted to gas guzzlers, but i see it as a temporary stopgap, till we have self running Electric Motors.

All the Best, Cornboy.

[Ufopolitics]

Agree 100%

@ Ewizard, i still strugle with the concept of water as fuel, unless you build combustion engines of a radical new design, without all the horrible oily and greasy parts, without the need for toxic coolants, ETC, ETC, ETC, terribly noisy, extreme heat producing, exhausting,(although cleaner on hho), into the air.

I understand that this tech can be made available quite cheaply, and can be retrofitted to gas guzzlers, but i see it as a temporary stopgap, till we have self running Electric Motors.

All the Best, Cornboy.

Hey Cornboy,


Right on the spot, agree with you 100%...

There is absolutely no need to burn Water...and yes, it is better tech than burning Oil...but so it is Propane...or a Hybrid Powered Engine...

I really try to understand why we keep lingering for so long around same idea of "Burning something to be able to Move something"...I mean...since the Steam and Carbon Engines ages ago...up to now!?

The Way I see and explain all this is...

Our Technical-Industrial Evolution Process to reach/develop into a Higher Level Civilization Race...has been "altered"...(I should better call it "retarded")... from its normal progression/development... This fact has also affected the evolution in other co-related fields, like, Social, Political and Economical levels... I will stay within the scope of Science-Technological... since it is the issue here.

For Example, this Water-HHO-Tech...should have been fully developed -at least- when Stan Meyer patented and promoted his "Water Car"...and that was around three decades ago...but our future was "altered" there...

And We all know that even before Meyer...there were others working on this fields...

We go back further in time...DR. Thomas Henry Moray...if Moray would have fully developed his invention without any "noises and interference" ...then Meyer would have made it better, utilizing this power source enhancement for his Generators...

And I can keep traveling all the way back in time to Nikola Tesla then to all his "Tech Followers"...and always will find "Alterations" of Our Evolution there...

And what happens as a result of all this ...is that we are "randomly and "Ad Libitum"" trying to substitute the "One and Only" for too long...Source of Energy ...some do it looking for fame and wealth...others just because they want to F**K the System...and for free.

Either ways...the ideas/inventions/re-makes/poor replications from altered/not specifically written patents... etc,etc...rush in... not chronologically at all... instead of following an organized pattern, like is supposed to be in any normal evolution process.

That is my opinion...

Regards



Ufopolitics

[Duncan]

Hey Cornboy,


Right on the spot, agree with you 100%...

There is absolutely no need to burn Water...and yes, it is better tech than burning Oil...but so it is Propane...or a Hybrid Powered Engine...

I really try to understand why we keep lingering for so long around same idea of "Burning something to be able to Move something"...I mean...since the Steam and Carbon Engines ages ago...up to now!?

The Way I see and explain all this is...

Our Technical-Industrial Evolution Process to reach/develop into a Higher Level Civilization Race...has been "altered"...(I should better call it "retarded")... from its normal progression/development... This fact has also affected the evolution in other co-related fields, like, Social, Political and Economical levels... I will stay within the scope of Science-Technological... since it is the issue here.

For Example, this Water-HHO-Tech...should have been fully developed -at least- when Stan Meyer patented and promoted his "Water Car"...and that was around three decades ago...but our future was "altered" there...

And We all know that even before Meyer...there were others working on this fields...

We go back further in time...DR. Thomas Henry Moray...if Moray would have fully developed his invention without any "noises and interference" ...then Meyer would have made it better, utilizing this power source enhancement for his Generators...

And I can keep traveling all the way back in time to Nikola Tesla then to all his "Tech Followers"...and always will find "Alterations" of Our Evolution there...

And what happens as a result of all this ...is that we are "randomly and "Ad Libitum"" trying to substitute the "One and Only" for too long...Source of Energy ...some do it looking for fame and wealth...others just because they want to F**K the System...and for free.

Either ways...the ideas/inventions/re-makes/poor replications from altered/not specifically written patents... etc,etc...rush in... not chronologically at all... instead of following an organized pattern, like is supposed to be in any normal evolution process.

That is my opinion...

Regards



Ufopolitics

UFOpolitics what a great comment, I have spent many hours reading through your threads with great Interest. Here lies the problem (as I see it) most of what you say I am forced to agree with but the pivot you also point out … external forces altered the natural progression … altered what should have happened years ago … external forces still do. Here is a radio clip where the presenters have a “good laugh” over the seemingly inevitable "public execution" of Stan Meyer who you mention
Opie & Anthony: Stan Meyer's Water Car - YouTube
So the question is UFO given that production, manufacture or broadcasting of “free energy” systems is never going to be allowed with out a tremendous battle the only way I see through the quagmire is to try and make a system so simple that its possible for “Joe public” to build it in the garage .. and do something useful with it. I suggest there is a thresh hold .. a point of no return if you like... I think we both know that it is the principle of “free energy” projected against a rotten system that is what the “good people”on this forum strive for … I think It matters not which system makes the first crack in the dam wall ….. If its simple enough for say one in a thousand to build and demonstrate then the whole rotten wall will come down. I really care little if its directly electrical or a derivation (such as splitting water is) I have had the pleasure of talking to a fellow Radio Ham who knew Mayer and assisted him on one of his tours, I also know the man later developed a very similar system and ran a test bed ram jet engine with it. The operation was terminated by tptb , I have duplicated on a very small scale what was done sufficient to convince myself its possible. The trouble is UFO its at UHF its phase locked wave forms which must be held with minimal distortion, into a tuned resonant circuit with a resonant point that needs to be tracked. That big box on the front window of Mayer’s car (which disappeared when the car was returned to “the estate”)is not there for no good reason!
I have no way of knowing if Inventionmaster has discovered a method of doing it simply (although I really hope so) until he publishes a full detail of the circuit , schematics, principle of operation and all the pictures and the detail he has.
I hate threads drifting off subject so I hope Inventionmaster will forgive this slight diversion into water “as is” it is an unfortunate effect of the capitalist system … (which don’t get me wrong .. has a great deal of benefits and is undoubtedly the best system known .. to press). That is.... a major downside. It is the ambition to control and monetize “assets”, we call it “future investments” .. of course the top draw of this ambition is to control or “own” things that are absolutely essential, things that are essential to life itself are viewed as “golden” when ewizard talks of water in the wrong place consideration then needs to be given to our ability to slightly alter the worlds huge irrigation system , There is evidence that such a system has been developed …. using the power source already identified by Lindsay Williams .. Its called HARRP of course once you start to consider MIB how much is smoke and miss- direction I really can't say... but link here for your Interest.
HAARP WEATHER CONTROL could be part of NWO DEPOPULATION PLAN, here's the science. - YouTube
You of course must make up your own mind . You may then consider that the controllers would never consider using such an asset for ill … In effect eat their young .. I would like you to listen and watch these two clips one for “public transmission” and one lifted from an archive and register the difference.
WTC2 collapse - YouTube
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZEOrnEcnRsE
Now consider this documentary .. boom ... ,boom,boom boom boom
Architects & Engineers - Solving the Mystery of WTC 7 - AE911Truth.org - YouTube I suggest you have just seen it .. however make up your own mind!... A whole sequence of war and horror involving many nations and lasting years costing many life’s was generated from this act the suggestion is ... a false flag operation.
I have over the years built and experimented with many systems some of which worked some of which didn't UFO's system worked as far as I went, so did Hector D Perez Torres's and John Bedini's (as far as it and he went) and so did many others … the question is .. can they be made simple enough understandable enough,efficient enough and most Importantly useful enough.. not for an engineer to build... but for enough Joe soaps .. to want to build so much they get off their arses go into their shed and do it. and so push through that “thresh hold” If not .. Its surly a pointless exercise that simply puts the originator in danger. .. unless you have a different view ?
I suggest UFO there are non so blind as those who will not see .. and its those eye's we try to open... If .. if if it can be done.
Best wishes Duncan

[Cornboy 555]

Eat Real Food.

Hello Duncan, you seem to have the human race deeply in your heart, you are special!

You probably could not get anything more simple, and realistically repeatible, than UFO's first thread, on pulsing a coil and rigging it with diodes, to take away the backlash produced by the everpresent background energy, ( BEMF, RADIANT,Collapsing magnetic field, what ever you call it.) that you Disturb, or awaken, by placing a DC current through a length of insulated copper wire wound to form a coil, and then very sharply disconnecting the current from the wound wire.

Of course industry as we know it has been trying to snub out this effect for a very long time, and heaven forbid if any of our power supply transformers ever reach Resonate condition, what a drama that causes.

All that is needed is to apply that simple teaching to rotating tranformers, ie. electric motors.

Duncan, it's not expensive to find vaccum cleaner motors and experiment with them, the ancillary parts may cost, but more than cost, is the will to do so.

Most peoples will is taken away, by the need to make a living, and the ridicule of their friends and piers, and also especially by the ingestion of absolute crap food with no real nutrician.

Just my thoughts,

Warm Regards, Cornboy.

[Zardox]

Cornboy - I think that your statements are spot on. All of those subjects are close to my heart.
We often talk about or refer here to the PTB. We here in our shops, garages and basements are trying to build and experiment with alternative ideas that might help to free people that don't even realize they are enslaved.
We mabe should start (and I hate to get political) by taking control of our governments. I cannot understand why in this day we still allow legislatures to keep adding new laws and increasing taxes and fees. We should be passing around petitions to have put on the ballot that any new taxes or increases should be voted on by the general public. And that would just be for starters. There is nothing stopping us.
Enough from my soap box, I could go on along time there.
I would like to say that I beleive that UFOs motor is the most likely garage tech to be succesful at giving us what were after here. We should all be learning what he is showing us and helping to advance the technology. I thank those with better resources that are contributing more than myself.

[truesearch]

@inventionmaster:

Can you tell us more about your controlling circuit? I know you said you used an Op-Amp and high-power transistors. What else can you remember? Frequency? Wave-form? etc??

truesearch

[Ufopolitics]

Harvesting for the Future...

UFOpolitics what a great comment, I have spent many hours reading through your threads with great Interest. Here lies the problem (as I see it) most of what you say I am forced to agree with but the pivot you also point out … external forces altered the natural progression … altered what should have happened years ago … external forces still do. Here is a radio clip where the presenters have a “good laugh” over the seemingly inevitable "public execution" of Stan Meyer who you mention
Opie & Anthony: Stan Meyer's Water Car - YouTube
So the question is UFO given that production, manufacture or broadcasting of “free energy” systems is never going to be allowed with out a tremendous battle the only way I see through the quagmire is to try and make a system so simple that its possible for “Joe public” to build it in the garage .. and do something useful with it. I suggest there is a thresh hold .. a point of no return if you like... I think we both know that it is the principle of “free energy” projected against a rotten system that is what the “good people”on this forum strive for … I think It matters not which system makes the first crack in the dam wall ….. If its simple enough for say one in a thousand to build and demonstrate then the whole rotten wall will come down. I really care little if its directly electrical or a derivation (such as splitting water is) I have had the pleasure of talking to a fellow Radio Ham who knew Mayer and assisted him on one of his tours, I also know the man later developed a very similar system and ran a test bed ram jet engine with it. The operation was terminated by tptb , I have duplicated on a very small scale what was done sufficient to convince myself its possible. The trouble is UFO its at UHF its phase locked wave forms which must be held with minimal distortion, into a tuned resonant circuit with a resonant point that needs to be tracked. That big box on the front window of Mayer’s car (which disappeared when the car was returned to “the estate”)is not there for no good reason!
I have no way of knowing if Inventionmaster has discovered a method of doing it simply (although I really hope so) until he publishes a full detail of the circuit , schematics, principle of operation and all the pictures and the detail he has.
I hate threads drifting off subject so I hope Inventionmaster will forgive this slight diversion into water “as is” it is an unfortunate effect of the capitalist system … (which don’t get me wrong .. has a great deal of benefits and is undoubtedly the best system known .. to press). That is.... a major downside. It is the ambition to control and monetize “assets”, we call it “future investments” .. of course the top draw of this ambition is to control or “own” things that are absolutely essential, things that are essential to life itself are viewed as “golden” when ewizard talks of water in the wrong place consideration then needs to be given to our ability to slightly alter the worlds huge irrigation system , There is evidence that such a system has been developed …. using the power source already identified by Lindsay Williams .. Its called HARRP of course once you start to consider MIB how much is smoke and miss- direction I really can't say... but link here for your Interest.
HAARP WEATHER CONTROL could be part of NWO DEPOPULATION PLAN, here's the science. - YouTube
You of course must make up your own mind . You may then consider that the controllers would never consider using such an asset for ill … In effect eat their young .. I would like you to listen and watch these two clips one for “public transmission” and one lifted from an archive and register the difference.
WTC2 collapse - YouTube
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZEOrnEcnRsE
Now consider this documentary .. boom ... ,boom,boom boom boom
Architects & Engineers - Solving the Mystery of WTC 7 - AE911Truth.org - YouTube I suggest you have just seen it .. however make up your own mind!... A whole sequence of war and horror involving many nations and lasting years costing many life’s was generated from this act the suggestion is ... a false flag operation.
I have over the years built and experimented with many systems some of which worked some of which didn't UFO's system worked as far as I went, so did Hector D Perez Torres's and John Bedini's (as far as it and he went) and so did many others … the question is .. can they be made simple enough understandable enough,efficient enough and most Importantly useful enough.. not for an engineer to build... but for enough Joe soaps .. to want to build so much they get off their arses go into their shed and do it. and so push through that “thresh hold” If not .. Its surly a pointless exercise that simply puts the originator in danger. .. unless you have a different view ?
I suggest UFO there are non so blind as those who will not see .. and its those eye's we try to open... If .. if if it can be done.
Best wishes Duncan

Thanks Duncan,

I will be brief and to the point, am working...no time...

Yes, the "Key" is definitively to make the simplest way possible...a reliable System, an Assembly of recycled parts...cheap and easy to reproduce...is not a simple process but it can be done.

Now the Future is Not Ours...but this present ...sorry...we may not see the changes to come...so, like Nikola Tesla once wrote...

"Let the Future tell the truth...and evaluate each one with his work and accomplishments, the Present is theirs;the Future for which I have really worked...is mine..."


We are making those "works, replications and accomplishments..."...but we must realize it is NOT for Our Generations...it is for the Future Ones...but...isn't it a great, adorable way to leave this Lifetime?


I see it exactly same way...as Tesla did, in his times...


Now, Opening up already closed minds, forged minds by the Classic Physics...that is a Mission...but could be done...some success some failure...
However, the main part of our work...is to concentrate/make very small and simple learning kits...books...tools...simple. cheap...so that the "Small World" around Us get excited about making it...school projects...opening schools...Vocational Schools...there are many, many ways to achieve this...

And the point to reach...is that when, in 2030 ...that little kid seats down at Engineering School...there would be absolutely No Professor to convince Him...that the 2nd Law of Thermodynamics...also work for open systems...or that there was actually an Asymmetrical Technology suppressed in "those Dark Ages of Symmetry"...written by the Father of Magnetism...James Clerk Maxwell...and so on and on...and trust me, our work is hard and very long...and, we more likely won't see absolutely nada...


We are "The Slaves working for the Future Generations"...we are paying for all other ones did in our Past and Present...but someone, sometime... had to do the hard work..


Regards


Ufopolitics

[bhaas]

Is anyone buying this BS?????

I couldn't/didn't test drive the car cause I had no tabs.

I had pics but they got stolen but gee I mangaged to save a few
to put in my first post???

Unless he took those pics today then he should be able to take
fresh new pics of the whole system, unless the cell was stolen by
MIBS last night while he was asleep.

Seriously???? WTF???

More BS to come I'm sure.

Reminds me of the s1r9a9m9 nonsense years ago.

Hell, could even be him.