Here's looking at Euclid (Bogart)

[Duncan]

IMHO could have done with a "flushing system"!

I guess I should have posted a link.
Future of Energy - YouTube

Wow sorry if I sounded a bit snappy there Zardox the reason is quite understandable though if you think about it . A huge part of this Forum and many like it are flooded with paid agents and dis -information, researchers.. (such as yourself now you have constructed a pulse system) know this is the case … you have seen COP +1 ergo logic makes the rest obvious. You may be one of this opposition yourself for all I know and of course visa versa , As Dave points out there are threads containing systems proven to work and replicated many many times …. opposition and nay-sayers dare not stick their rotten neb's in there …. their rotten little boat will get blown out of the water and the back lash counter productive to their ambition.
So before ever we start this here's a few obvious pointers .. if there's a video (such as you have just posted) and it was uploaded in 2008 and no one has replicated, published or advanced it then Its probably “a steaming heap” that’s not a certainty mind but on balance what do you think?
This is just the sort of area This thread must not go …. however if you have built the thing and it works … and its in your garage, and if your quite happy to reveal the change of windings .. the horse powers and speeds and pulley sizes that’s a different matter. I would suggest you are looking at a hoax and exactly what I don't want this thread or any of the forums members involved in.
I know sometimes we all tend to get diverted with these bloody scams I’ve kissed a good few frogs myself.
So here's what we are looking for Zardox … not "Grim fairy tales" … constructs that members have built and are COP+1 that they are prepared to talk about. Systems designed preferably by engineers and professors who's credentials and history can be checked and verified, systems that have been re built and replicated ten or twenty times successfully (just like David’s) or your pulse system which I assume is Robert Adams / Harold Aspen / Muller or one of the other derivations ?
If this water contraption is working at all .. I would say the key phrase is … “certain changes in the motor windings”
I hope you are not considering investing time and money in this thing Zardox? Whilst not meaning to be unkind to layselo I suspect I've invested to much time in this “water feature” already.

[Cornboy 555]

Bla Bla Yap Yap

Hello Duncan, i have gone across, Zardox's post history, and found nothing that would indicate that he is a diss- informationist, so i may be compleetly wrong But, I do Understand now what the entry level is For your Thread so hope to see you soon.

ps. please, don't discourage Neewbies, like me.

Regards Cornboy.
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[Duncan]

The wrong end of the handle!

Hello Duncan, i have gone across, Zardox's post history, and found nothing that would indicate that he is a diss- informationist, so i may be compleetly wrong But, I do Understand now what the entry level is For your Thread so hope to see you soon.

ps. please, don't discourage Neewbies, like me.

Regards Cornboy.
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Oh dear Cornboy you have miss – Interpreted me I in no way indicated that I thought Zardox was dis.info .. I did acknowledge that he may be … (so might I for that matter) or anybody else, As your newbie status well, we all were once .. I hate to think how many thousands have been spent chasing dubious systems one of the first and most important things to grasp as a Newbie is that there are by intention hundreds of scams and lots of dis information .. Its put there by en large by the opposition, Its very difficult to separate one from t'other .. if it was the paid agents wouldn't be doing their paid job of “smoke and mirrors” very well at all … would they? And free energy would be world wide right now! When the smoke and mirrors and all the official “red tape” and intimidation fails , they Cull … https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NuH72G5qXow
I'm pretty sure Zardox has posted in good faith … I can't however say the same about layselo! I suspect you have miss read my post and if you read it again there is … a comma … as a newbie unless you want to waste lots of your time, and even more money in a pit of frustration research .. research the inventor, research the history, research the theory, if possible talk to the developer, go see him , phone him up, be nice be polite simply ask . In my experience the honest brokers are pleased to help. In fact they tend to go right out of their way to help, Do not ever assume the thing works before you have all of the above carefully sorted out in your mind. You wont just be
discouraged (as you say) you'll be considerably out of pocket ! I have opened a thread here and I feel duty bound to kick the ball into the long grass if it has stink of tptb on it .. for ever bodies sake ! There are plenty of tried and tested people and systems out there without resorting to the dubious exostic water feature things, but I certainly don’t want to discourage you by all means go and build or research a known viable system and bring it to the the table but please oh pretty please don't do what I have done rather more times than I care to think about along with a lot of others and try herding cats .. because thats what tptb want you to spend your hard earned money and and limited time doing .

[Zardox]

Thank you Cornboy - Your work on the asymetrical motors jumps you right to the head of the class. In no way are you a newbie.
Duncan - I don't know what to say. I was very excited about this thread when it started. I thought that you were on to something very important that I needed to learn. I have no intention of building the water jet thing. Again and for the last time I only mentioned it because it was linked in the material that you sent to me. If I was going to invest in something it would be in UFO's Imperial motor. If I had the funds to do it I would of had his project completed by now. I guess the t.p.t.b. just arn't paying me enough.
As you seem unwilling to adress my initial questions I will take leave of this thread and leave you to it.
Good luck with all your future endeavors, it was fun.

[Duncan]

Thank you Cornboy - Your work on the asymetrical motors jumps you right to the head of the class. In no way are you a newbie.
Duncan - I don't know what to say. I was very excited about this thread when it started. I thought that you were on to something very important that I needed to learn. I have no intention of building the water jet thing. Again and for the last time I only mentioned it because it was linked in the material that you sent to me. If I was going to invest in something it would be in UFO's Imperial motor. If I had the funds to do it I would of had his project completed by now. I guess the t.p.t.b. just arn't paying me enough.
As you seem unwilling to adress my initial questions I will take leave of this thread and leave you to it.
Good luck with all your future endeavors, it was fun.

the stuff I sent .. should have been related to magnetic cogging ... if the original PDF containes other information as some sort of "extra" I really haven't tried it and so won't comment on it! I directed specifically to magnetic interaction !
ah well good bye ... sorry to see ya go

[Duncan]

Kelly's Hero's

Don't hit me with those negative waves so early in the morning !
…. so I’ve lost a few guy's ah well they didn't speak to me like that when we were out picking daisies together …still sadly missed.!
There are many reasons for starting a thread, to communicate, crystallise your own thoughts , discuss debate educate and learn are just a few. Sometimes there is (believe it or not) .. just the pleasure of writing. I still very much believe there is common core to COP+1 devices as I slowly amble this well trodden path however I have no Intention of being diverted, There are many who have built COP+1 devices .
I wonder just how many started researching this fascinating history because of Bedini's SSG monopole ? Thousands if not millions Good man John!
Albert Einstein's theories are suspect and indeed have been demonstrated false unfortunately the rot persists. EPD tells some of the story In this recently released documentary which has been suppressed for years that he suspects the theory of general relativity to be a conspiracy circa 1H53M > 1H58M I can understand and agree with
Origins of Energy Synthesis by Professor Eric Dollard - YouTube
As you get to near the two hour mark in this epic you will see a student suggests a break as Eric has been speaking for nearly three hours ergo there is a huge amount cut from this video … It s been quite crudely cut and it may prove useful to note what Eric was about to talk about …
tptb obviously wish to control and dominate anything that is absolutely essential to life, It of course enables them to enslave the rest of the population using what is essentially the free gifts of creation .
I read a post the other day relating to “The shortage of water” and how people were being prevented from storing roof run off, for shortage read.. “tptb contrive to charge and control a god given natural resource”. In this respect Energy is in the same boat , For a deception to be effective (as anyone will tell you who is any good at telling porkie pies) A fair portion of verifiable truth needs to be Involved regarding this element of truth Einstein's
“Energy cannot be created or destroyed, it can only be changed from one form to another.”
well it rings true and In this regard is similar to water.
So lets have a quick look at water, consider how it works, we'll do a little high school maths and compare it to energy
As Stars go our sun isn't very notable however It impacts everything in our daily lives, Its light and heat make all vegetation possible. Plants and animals need water and here too the sun is responsible for our rainfall.
Fifteen minutes with an old School Atlas shows that the average rainfall for the entire earth is about 32 inches per annum. If all that rain fell at one time the entire globe would be flooded to a depth of 1metre. This amount of water weighs in at about … 480 million million tons, Since this water must be lifted by evaporation from every sea, lake,river and stream to altitude of at least 1200 metres in order for it to fall as rain. This almost incomprehensible massive irrigation system requires the expenditure of …. 220 thousand million horse power … continuously. This has been going on for millions of years even so it uses only a fraction of the suns energy.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jmtzVITUWgk
Every square metre of the earth’s surface exposed to the sun receives 1 1/8 Kw over a 12 hour period
This adds up to 48,000 KW/h a year … if you had to pay for it you'd soon be busted!
The suns Total output is 340,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 Kw although we on earth only receive a fraction of that.
So this water shortage? Really where's it gone? It may temporarily be inside you or a cow pig or cat perhaps in an ocean or river however it will very quickly get caught up in the huge irrigation and purification plan of creation. Water doesn't “belong “ to anyone, only by force or manipulation by banksters. And aggression by tptb. In actual fact there must be the same amount of water on the good ship earth as there ever has been. unless you know otherwise?
As you can see from the video clip by RA Pool there is at least the possibility that the theory of evaporation is also being hidden … The possibility of such a fundamental basic operation not being fully examined and understood by tptb is preposterous. The reason Its not taught to the dumplings becomes obvious if the possibility of weather control by linear wave interference is considered.
However just as water does not have its own Apollo program in order for it to leave the planet neither IMHO does energy .. It is as Einstein says in another form .. in another time and dimension as EPD points out, Its our desire to Invite energy from this huge sea .. to do our bidding.

Throughout* space there is energy. Is this energy static or kinetic! If static, our hopes are in vain; if kinetic - and this we know it is, for certain - then it is a mere question of time when men will succeed in attaching their machinery to the very wheelwork of Nature. Tesla

[wantomake]

Energy 101

Thanks Duncan,
We are away traveling so it's great to tune in to your lecture hall, prop my chin up and listen.

I really miss the shop, but need to complete this mission. If I can.

I left two different experiments running (quite safe) in the shop. Still trying to form crystalline plates in one battery and radiant charging another old dead battery. As I stated before in another thread, my son-in-law is there to check it if need be.

I agree on your statements about water. The South Pole has enough frozen water to flood the Earth if it melted. I think water is supposed to be used over and over. That's why we have it. Not a day passes that I believe our "energy" needs will be quenched with a steady and vast quantity of a natural resource.
Water,air,the sun, etc. We will find the answer I know.

Thanks for allowing me to sit in Prof. (if I may) Duncan.
wantomake

[boguslaw]

Yeah, good big question. Is it static or dynamic ?
or in other words : is magnetic field static or dynamic ?

[Duncan]

And we know that it is ....?

Yeah, good big question. Is it static or dynamic ?
or in other words : is magnetic field static or dynamic ?

Hi Boguslaw I would say with respect that the simple experiment I asked you to visualise at the outset regarding two opposing magnets pendulum fashion indicate dynamic .. I see no reason to disagree with Tesla on that point. The fact that the action... appears to us... as chaotic and so unusable is quite irrelevant that I'm afraid is down to our stupidity and lack of understanding and/ or engineering, some of course have predicted and engineered the magnetic field here I think of the likes of Howard Johnson and Leon Hatem I don't think there is any plausible reason to doubt Tesla's statement “and we know that it is” That part of the statement is easily demonstrable, connecting our machinery to it … ah there's the nub.

[ewizard]

Still trying to follow along but I've been super busy. I keep losing my message here with some forum error so I give up for tonight. Thanks for keeping the info flowing.

[Duncan]

If you want to hide a tree ... put it in the forest

pleasure ewiz and Hi Wantomake I hope all is OK. I'm no Prof quite the reverse … a dolt, I'm just probing and following things that work whilst abandoning things that don't … listening to the people who have showed me things that work and turning a deaf ear to people who have introduced me to a frog they would like me to kiss.
There is an awful lot to be learned from what you can see has been intentionally hidden .. for Instance if you'd like to listen to a real prof for a while lend an ear to EPD and this recently uncovered video that has been suppressed for many years. Eric's just soooo far ahead of most that Oh dear we can't follow … he asks this class at some point “how many of you understand at least 10% of what I'm saying” and has to answer disappointedly .. “oh well I do hope everybody getting at least something” such a shame for a guy who is blowing out gold dust at high pressure.
Try and listen to the lecture .. but don’t stress or demand of yourself that you need to understand each and every detail .. I don’t and its not necessary, Do pick it up however about 1H50M note the conspiracy. And If you have time to watch the whole … note that about the 2H mark a student asks for a break as Eric has been speaking for 3H+ ergo there is are huge chunks edited, you can see where, its not a professional job, note what he was about to expand on ….that of course is far more important than what is released!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UA2tLgL0HqE

I guess Wantomake Its the very fact that I am not an academic that drove me to start this thread. And I suppose by extension be a bit churlish with poor O'l Zardox still he tells me quite pleasantly he's still following so hopefully he'll join us again … in due course

“The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite insane”.. Tesla

you see For all Eric's undoubted brilliance its not worth a candle to me unless …. unless I can make some of it work.
Or if I can't .. but I can talk to someone who can , and that someone can tell me … well that’s OK too!!
Do you remember Steorm? 300 universities given (given?) devices undeniably OU . Where now?
So Wantomake here's a short list of “to dos” if free energy is ever to get out of the box.

1/ make it so simple Joe soap can make it in his garage
2/ expect no profit – in fact consider your self lucky if you and yours escape alive
3/must be able to provide a worth while energy source .. Joe Soap can't be arsed very much!
Oh dear there's much more … so far over 150 years or so the score is …
tptb 10 humanity 0

Steorm had the right Idea but everything else wrong … they wanted a profit …. it wasn't simple enough … they didn’t release it … ergo they couldn't give a **** about humanity. Only in so much as they offered it “lip service” whilst trying to commercialise.
Ah well Its gone .. buried along with all the other systems and people, sadly missed.
The main pieces of what Eric does say which I would like you to take note of are , The Alexanderson alternator could be set up in such a way that energy “disappeared” .. we are of course interested practically because if it can be made to disappear it can also be made to reappear ( as it can only be changed from one form to another)
The parts that have been hacked out of this video seem to concern rotating machines with variable susceptance. Including the Synchronous motors which would have had to used in Tesla's era.
(In fact they are still in use today). This “variable frequency adjustment” relative to ...In turn relates directly to the phenomenal efficiencies demonstrated around the world by Panacea university and the "Rotorverter" as open sourced by Hector D. Perez Torres. Folks of course take little notice of the rotoverter as it makes no claim to being COP+1, The motor has to be physically very large compared to the power required and also extremely efficient. If its built as advertised its true it is not cop+1 but its very very close and truth be told with a tweak here and there its been looped. The reaction of tptb was predictably unpleasant

Rotoverter Technology was OU before ORBO one.

Here then more and more clues line up like soldiers in a row. That which you see mathematically as Chaos .. actually does have form and direction, Whilst I don't wish to go down a Theological trail we are considering a natural phenomena at the core of creation. IMHO It has been hidden and lied about for at least 130 years .. ever since the first grid, what started as a relatively harmless lie and deception has grown into a huge mountain of world wide evil and enslavement.
It seems quite obvious that every watt of transverse power that is used in this time and dimension is injurious to life and abhorrent to the intention of creation. The oil spills and disasters far to numerous to list

Oil Spills and Disasters | Infoplease.com

I do not for one minute consider to be accidental ... in the true sense of the word..., any more than I consider, Fukushima , Chernobyl ,Three mile Island and Windscale as mere accidents.
The worldwide coal mining disasters beyond count are in the same boat . Tptb sit atop a huge mountain built on lies greed and evil all started by the so called elite and insider trading 130 years ago … Like King Catute trying to halt the tide however Its a hopeless and very dangerous position to hold and puts our world and life in peril. I do not for one instant believe these apparent “accidents” are anything other than the benign force of creation reacting to the disgusting interference with its true intent.
If something has to be hidden … In full view is the very best place to hide it concider for a little while this very simple system which has been in use for years. Particularly by Radio Hams and rescue depatments operating emergency equipment in remote locations … you could pehaps view this as being analogous to the magnetic pendulum with a coil placed somewhere on the perifery .. that is the energy supply is quite unpredictable its also quite feeble as "instantanious power" of course give time the power accumalation can be huge … That is the correct word for a Lead Acid Battery .. “an accumalator” here is the basic outline of a system thats been in use for many years.
http://www.pssurvival.com/PS/Batteri...arger_2006.pdf
And this is a rather more sophisticated example
http://img819.imageshack.us/img819/6...id20120424.png
whilst This Isn't really a “construction thread” The aknoledgement that these rudimentary systems do (and always have) worked is required. It is not efficency .. I really don't give a hoot about that right now ….. this circuit is unfocused .. and detuned however you really do need to understand that …. free Aetheric energy is being stored in these accumilators … here it is again even simpler
Free electricity - YouTube
Consider if each child in infants school had built one of these and was aware of that circuit .. how much more advanced it would be now?
Homework .. consider
1/ If you were to put a scope across the battery .. what shape would you expect that waveform to be?
2/ consider what effect putting say 10,100 or 1000 batteries in series or parellel across such a system …. do you think 100 batteries could be expected to charge as fast as one?
3/What impedance relationship do you see looking from the battery back at the antenna high or low?

[Duncan]

Blowing smoke!

I do hope it has not gone unnoticed that where I do quote a COP+1 I only do so if I have attempted it myself and found it has merit .. and more particularly if several replications are available. so you boys and girls can read about it
As a mathematical or scientific proposition COP + 1 as I have pointed out is not possible.
Or at least to be more accurate not possible with the limited language the present day mathematics offers us.
Infinity … Infinitesimal … and chaos …. these states leave our highly paid boffin s blowing smoke up our arses! They have been doing that for years, Indeed here's one of the early smoke up arse blowing kits.



You have I'm sure at least at the back of your mind been carrying the picture of the “magnetic pendulum” regardless of whether or not you really wanted to ! I'm sure you have the chaos pictured clearly in your mind … Bogaslaw asked quite pointedly is the force dynamic clearly yes .. however I suspect the question he really wanted to posit was … not is it dynamic but ...is it usable?
Well I'll add a little bit more to the jig saw .. that goes to make up our trip

Attraction vs Repulsion in Magnetic Fields - YouTube

now in your picture … mix that advantage with the magnetic pendulum, You well know a magnetic pendulum is chaotic …. so is an ordinary pendulum when its connected to another pendulum. And Its also .. you guessed it .. chaotic



what if that chaotic action were to be given a push in the right direction even at the loss of a little energy ? So we lose mathematical dimensions but gain huge advantage just like this concept of
Veljko Milkovic's
Pendulum eases pumping of water - YouTube
…. mix that again with a wheel … and then add several several wheels and lots of magnets to the stew.... Just like this …
Free Energy from magnets Leon Raul Hatem Eng Sub - YouTube
It's really not as easy as it looks here but I'm sure you start to form your own picture!... Its how we humans roll
I am not a Prof and really we “hewers of wood and drawers of water” have a huge advantage over the Boffin s … we do not have to make the sums add up … we can simply “do it” Milkovic and Hatem have effectively manoeuvred and then cancelled the unpleasantness right out of the equation.
We now need to do exactly what Steorm said they wanted to do ( but didn't) and deliver such a powerful “sucker punch” to the benefit of humanity so hard tptb cannot hope to recover.
All the systems I have presented so far I know to have merit ( apart from the blowing smoke up the arse thing .. (which incidentally was the sovereign cure for drowning) I'm not sure that worked..... dont try it at home ! (unless your a nay sayer then do ... and post a video)
being engineers and not scribblers gives a huge advantage … It doesn't have to add up … just make the queer bit adjustable and cancel it out, make it big, make lots of them, we have to treat the scientists like a young pup that’s just crapped on the carpet …. boff it lightly on the nose with a newspaper and then push its nose in the crap .. It'll soon learn … and then the nonsense will be over (at least as far as energy's concerned)
It is becoming quite clear in every field that Albert's a key part of the conspiracy, as engineers we can simply avoid all the twaddle , we simply need to know what to do in order to get out of the loop of Insanity that Tesla directs so pointedly at. So where is it and what is it?
As we are mechanics we need not concern ourself s with the “Insane who think deeply” In fact its far better that we “Think clearly” The violently enforced “Theory of relativity” angered upset and in some cases profoundly effected the greatest scientific minds of the era. Tesla's view hardly needs amplification, Oliver Heaviside painted his Nails red and forever slept on rocks after being visited by Morgans thugs. If Tesla, Steinmetz, Heaviside, Robert Adams,Harold Aspen,Prof Pappas,EPD
and many other have satisfied themselves that the Theory of relativity is at best wrong and possibly an enforced conspiracy perhaps we could do worse than take heed. We mechanicals however need not concern ourselves with all that twaddle only where the falsehood lies, having discovered that amplify it … make it adjustable and bring it to life. If you actually want to get involved in the corruption and theory I put a couple of links here … I'm not really Interested myself only in the practical remedy … after all I've got the rest of my life to get on with!

The Theory of Anti-Relativity
The Secret History of America The Greatest Conspiracy On Earth

Peter Lindermann tells us all we need to know In a simple experiment here
http://www.free-energy.ws/pdf/spinning_ball.pdf

Put things in spin and the laws that supposedly contain everything … collapses. In order two create spin there must obviously be (at least) three points in space, Hence of course a “3” phase motor
In the case of single phase motors the spacial relationship is introduced with capacitance.

[Duncan]

Tesla all round "jolly good egg" Bit of scribble anyone?

Jolly good egg .. without bashing the end ..
I Haunted thee were the ibis nods,
From the Bracken's crag to the Upas Tree.
Nikola Tesla, November 4, 1934

"Fragments of Olympian Gossip"

While listening on my cosmic phone
I caught words from the Olympus blown.
A newcomer was shown around;
That much I could guess, aided by sound.
"There's Archimedes with his lever
Still busy on problems as ever.
Says: matter and force are transmutable
And wrong the laws you thought immutable."
"Below, on Earth, they work at full blast
And news are coming in thick and fast.
The latest tells of a cosmic gun.
To be pelted is very poor fun.
We are wary with so much at stake,
Those beggars are a pest - no mistake."
"Too bad, Sir Isaac, they dimmed your renown
And turned your great science upside down.
Now a long haired crank, Einstein by name,
Puts on your high teaching all the blame.
Says: matter and force are transmutable
And wrong the laws you thought immutable."
"I am much too ignorant, my son,
For grasping schemes so finely spun.
My followers are of stronger mind
And I am content to stay behind,
Perhaps I failed, but I did my best,
These masters of mine may do the rest.
Come, Kelvin, I have finished my cup.
When is your friend Tesla coming up."
"Oh, quoth Kelvin, he is always late,
It would be useless to remonstrate."
Then silence - shuffle of soft slippered feet-
I knock and - the bedlam of the street. ..Nickola Tesla


As I drew near the Upas tree
I felt a sudden lethargy.
I was devoid of energy
The Upas tree had captured me.

To satisfy its appetite.
With promises of sheer delight
it undermined my will to fight.
I must resist with all my might.

I will succeed in breaking free
and then destroy the Upas tree.
Then I discover suddenly
I am inside the Upas tree.

This is no dream or fantasy.
Alas it’s grim reality.
My struggles were to no avail
The tree must win I had to fail.

If you should find a Upas tree
avoid it very carefully.
Few men caught by this strange tree
ever succeed in breaking free.

One man lived to tell his story
How he escaped eventually.
But no one believed that there could be.
A sentient man eating tree.

I was a fool and paid no heed
To tell the truth I saw no need
and that is how I came to feed.
The Upas tree’s unholy greed. Anon

One can not help looking at that little bulb of Crookes with a feeling akin to awe, when he considers all that it has done for scientific progress — first, the magnificent results obtained by its originator; next, the brilliant work of Lenard, and finally the wonderful achievements of Roentgen. Possibly it may still contain a grateful Asmodeus, who will be let out of his narrow prison cell by a lucky student. At times it has seemed to me as though I myself heard a whispering voice, and I have searched eagerly among my dusty bulbs and bottles. I fear my imagination has deceived me, but there they are still, my dusty bulbs, and I am still listening hopefully.Nikola Tesla


Asmodeus AKA .. Ashmeday, Asmodius, Asmodee, Asmoday, Hasmoday, Sydoney, Chammaday, Ashmedai, Sidonay, Asmodai, Asmadai, Chashmodai, Æshma*

Creature of Judgement.

The Prophet's Candle


in my hands I hold a candle
whose flame is small to see
And if I give but one light to you
my life is filled for me.
But...
In your hands you hold a torch
for many eyes to see
So hold it high that they may light
their candlewicks from thee. Faye Rhyme



Ovid … Ibis (nodding ….. or not)

Your cortège is prepared: no delay to the sad prayers:
dread sacrifice, relinquish your throat to my knives.
Let earth deny its fruits to you, the rivers their waves,
let the winds and the breezes deny you their breath.
Let there be no heat to the sun, for you, no light for you
from the moon, let all the bright stars forsake your eyes.
Nor let fire or air offer themselves to you,
nor earth or ocean grant you a way.
Exiled, wander helpless, across the alien thresholds,
seek out scant nourishment with a trembling mouth.
Body never free of ills, mind of grievous sickness,
night be worse than day for you, and day than night.
May you be always pitiable, and yet let no one pity:
let men and women take delight in your adversity.
Let hatred for your tears be on you, be so fit to stink,
that when you might have known the worst of ills,
you’ll suffer more. And be, what’s rare, devoid
of common charity, a face offensive to your own fate.
And let no reason fail, of the many, for your dying:
yet life be forced to shun the death you long for:
and your spirit struggle long to leave your tortured
body, and interminable delay torment it first.
Let this come to pass. Just now, himself, Apollo gave me
an omen of the future, a bird flew from the mournful left.
I’ll consider the gods influenced by what I vow, and I’ll
always be nourished, traitor, by expectation of your death.
And first let that day, that comes too slow for me,
take away this life, often sought to excess by you,
that this grief might have the power to vanish in a moment,
and heal my hateful hours, and these hated days of mine
full translation
Ovid -Ibis - A new translation of his peom from exile
Tesla on relativity..... It seems that dissent is in short supply in this area of theoretical science: '...a magnificent mathematical garb which fascinates, dazzles and makes people blind to the underlying errors. The theory is like a beggar clothed in purple whom ignorant people take for a king...., its exponents are brilliant men but they are meta-physicists rather than scientists...', and 'I hold that space cannot be curved, for the simple reason that it can have no properties. It might as well be said that God has properties. He has not, but only attributes and these are of our own making. Of properties we can only speak when dealing with matter filling the space. To say that in the presence of large bodies space becomes curved is equivalent to stating that something can act upon nothing. I, for one, refuse to subscribe to such a view.', and '...the relativity theory, by the way, is much older than its present proponents. It was advanced over 200 years ago by my illustrious countryman Boscovic, the great philosopher, who not withstanding other and multi fold obligations wrote a thousand volumes of excellent literature on a vast variety of subjects. Boscovic dealt with relativity, including the so-called time-space continuum...',
Nikola Tesla went far beyond electricity.
He (Tesla) ventured into the engineering of the underlying field of force behind electricity, gravity and all non-physical phenomena. He was the first Aetheric Engineer and this is what scared the bankers above all else. Tesla made clear the extreme power the Aether held and how it would save humanity. Destroying Tesla was not enough, the entire study of electricity had to be suppressed for they knew that through the genuine study of electricity lay the knowledge of the Aether.
( From Prodigal Genius by John O’Neil ) from here
The Defiance of Nikola Tesla whence the books are available … gratis

[wantomake]

Thanks from Japan

Duncan,
Once again thanks for your FE spirit and heart for our future and this our ONLY planet.

Yes, still in Japan and much time to read and study. Very interested in radiant energy, especially that spoken by Tesla and others.

Been trying to understand and piece together different teachings about frequency, crystals, lasers, aether, and such.

Saw this cool you tube video on this and thought this is the line of thought I have and want to explore. "LSM400 Radiant energy and selenite crystal with violet laser". Don't know how to include links yet - sorry.

There is so much to learn and do. I want to contribute but, can't until I return back to shop and homeland.

Still enjoy your teachings and insights to this paradigm shift taking place. I hope to be part of this as we advance forward.

Thanks again,
wantomake

[Duncan]

keep at it wantomake .. the light will shine

Duncan,
Once again thanks for your FE spirit and heart for our future and this our ONLY planet.

Yes, still in Japan and much time to read and study. Very interested in radiant energy, especially that spoken by Tesla and others.

Been trying to understand and piece together different teachings about frequency, crystals, lasers, aether, and such.

Saw this cool you tube video on this and thought this is the line of thought I have and want to explore. "LSM400 Radiant energy and selenite crystal with violet laser". Don't know how to include links yet - sorry.

There is so much to learn and do. I want to contribute but, can't until I return back to shop and homeland.

Still enjoy your teachings and insights to this paradigm shift taking place. I hope to be part of this as we advance forward.

Thanks again,
wantomake

Hi wantomake .. first I guess is to get you adept at posting links .. when you click post reply.. or quote and the answer window opens up you will see some icons at the top hovering over them with your mouse will tell you what each one does however the one you want looks rather like a ball with a pair of glasses in front . so Lets assume you have found a web page and wish to post the link
click the URL till it goes blue then right click and select copy (to your clip board)
back at the reply box clean out whatever s in there right click the cursor in the address and past your URL in there … It will arrive in your main message wherever you left the cursor blinking, of course if your on some exotic tablet computer I wouldn’t have a clue. The link you wished to include I assume was this one
LSM400 Radiant Energy and Selenite Crystal with Violet Laser - YouTube
very Interesting Indeed . As you seem to have time on your hands I've taken it upon myself to suggest a few video's that might propel you along a bit. These are video's that have had a deal of impact on my own research, There are frequency based “giants here's one Viktor Schauberger presented by another of my favourite presenters Tom Brown
https://vimeo.com/11915668
As you can see nearly all of these interactions are frequency based and the longitudinal wave has much to do with us our well being and our world. The interaction of these frequencies and resonance can effect anything I am finding as I unburden myself of the collected knowledge of years studying this subject more information seems to make its self automatically available .. very strange indeed . Tesla was of the opinion something similar happens he referred to it as Teleforce its gone into in some depth in this very unusual “telecast” on the man again by Tom Brown
https://vimeo.com/19577546
I first became aware of extreme suppression of technology and the true nature of tptb after some association a lot of years ago with a guy called Aubery Scoon.
He in turn was researching Rife Technology which in due course I contributed to. If you have not made your self familiar with the work of Dr Royal Raymond Rife I would advise any researcher to at least “be aware” If you have the time .. and the facilities to watch the video .. I think you may rather enjoy … no not enjoy "benefit" from watching the life story of Royal Rife. I say not enjoy because the antics of “big business” tptb and their methods and evil techniques to control hinder and harm this brilliant man , the repercussion's of which effect all of us, It enrages and angers me to this day. I think the venom probably comes out in this post I wrote quite some time ago , I include it here so you might be inclined to watch the video.
http://www.energeticforum.com/renewa...tml#post214884
given the finance and the ability to use it without hindrance from tptb this would be the first of the buried technologies I would exhume , Quickly whilst I still know the people who can produce equivalent microscopes … Ah but what point Wantomake ? It seems we Humans cannot act as a collective whole , you have probably noticed I have abandoned my own thread here temporarily to try and inject what I hope proves to be a helping hand else where. .. we shall see! Hope all goes well for you there wantomake
Sayonara