Here's looking at Euclid (Bogart)

[boguslaw]

Series resonance, parallel resonance, parametric resonance - all doesn't matter really. Tell me please when you have a capacitor and a coil connected together without any other parts : what kind of resonance circuit is this ?

[Duncan]

easy...easy like everest you mean ?

X6 is it that easy? The theory is easy if you’ve grasped it everything’s easy pees y once you know it. The practice isn’t so easy at all … particularly water fracture … when you fracture the water the properties alter … the resonance point alters .. you have to develop a method to track and follow the resonant point … have a look at an old picture of Stan mayers Bug before he was snuffed in front of him at the bottom of the windscreen is a big box of electronics doing exactly that . If you take a look at the car when it was … “given back to the estate” it is no more.
Look on this chart where molecular spin occurs many GHz ,its no easy task to to hold a a sine wave shape accurate enough to go though all those transforms and still be effective at those frequencies.
Definition of EMF, ELF, VHF, UHF, RF, electromagnetic field, frequency & wavelengths
Stopping the gas recombining is another nightmare and getting a useful fuel out of that bloody gas is yet another trial .. so easy it ain’t … but do-able … a few people have done it, they have sharper pencils in their box than me and have overcome all those obstacles in one way or another but don't make the mistake of thinking it was easy, these guys did brilliant cutting edge work .. with no help
However as I say IMHO it is obsolete …. why use such a thing if you can tap and convert electric power straight from the source? If UFO politics machine or David Bowling’s 3BS can be stabilised which would you rather use?
You can see now I wanted to draw the picture because the theory is in this dimension and its possible with a little bit of hassle to describe it. But all said and done I only wanted to use it to put a picture in your mind so I could turn it upside down and inside out … Now you start to see the whole vista.. and more Importantly you are looking straight at the dimension that endless pages of maths and hundreds of posts have not been able to display for you.
I never intended to cross the Ts or dot the Is (not at this stage anyway) …. I did want to get the whole story out “In the rough” as quickly as possible … if your managing to hang onto my shirt tails …. its there now in one page. .. not many 100s
To many people have been murdered , threatened , tortured,maimed because of free energy …
because I thought there was a distinct possibility It could be my turn (again) as I exposed this theory I have rushed to get a working sketch out. I apologise to all (particularly Eric) if I have drifted a little off his principles .. I am riding rapidly and rough shod.

[Duncan]

oooouch, sorry Duncan, I'm a little bit handicapped and my brain does not allow me to read complex English statements..what is your point exactly , please ?

wow boguslaw .. first I have actually been drawing a picture in words , no easy task in any language .. its a stretch even if english is your first languge, I wil try and think of a way to get it simpler .. or perhaps one of the reader's might like to try?
as for your second post ... of course there is a huge difference between various resonant points and types particularly parametric or stochastic as you mention

[boguslaw]

wow boguslaw .. first I have actually been drawing a picture in words , no easy task in any language .. its a stretch even if english is your first languge, I wil try and think of a way to get it simpler .. or perhaps one of the reader's might like to try?
as for your second post ... of course there is a huge difference between various resonant points and types particularly parametric or stochastic as you mention

thanks, the difference is small when you imagine all variations (parametric,stochastic, whatever) without any power source. Just take a variable capacitor (to cover also parametric case) and variable inductor (with adjustable core for example) and connect both. Is that serial resonant circuit or parallel ? I think BOTH. Any difference now dissapear. This is the starting point to ou I think. Now imagine what you can do with that ... would be good to know where is reactive power in such circuit and where is real power if it's all possible to point at ...

[ewizard]

A bit of help for the terminology challenged or it helps to have a clear picture of the difference between 'harmonic' and 'overtone'.
"The term harmonic has a precise meaning - that of an integer (whole number) multiple of the fundamental frequency of a vibrating object. The term overtone is used to refer to any resonant frequency above the fundamental frequency - an overtone may or may not be a harmonic. Many of the instruments of the orchestra, those utilizing strings or air columns, produce the fundamental frequency and harmonics. Their overtones can be said to be harmonic. Other sound sources such as the membranes or other percussive sources may have resonant frequencies which are not whole number multiples of their fundamental frequencies. They are said to have non-harmonic overtones."

I had to refresh myself on that difference

[tachyoncatcher]

The dense has just been enlightened

A bit of help for the terminology challenged or it helps to have a clear picture of the difference between 'harmonic' and 'overtone'.
"The term harmonic has a precise meaning - that of an integer (whole number) multiple of the fundamental frequency of a vibrating object. The term overtone is used to refer to any resonant frequency above the fundamental frequency - an overtone may or may not be a harmonic. Many of the instruments of the orchestra, those utilizing strings or air columns, produce the fundamental frequency and harmonics. Their overtones can be said to be harmonic. Other sound sources such as the membranes or other percussive sources may have resonant frequencies which are not whole number multiples of their fundamental frequencies. They are said to have non-harmonic overtones."

I had to refresh myself on that difference

Thanks @ewizard!.

So Duncan, what you are saying in the simplest terms are this? A standing wave with harmonic overtones of 6x will open the gates to energy abundance? Just trying to wrap my limited brain faculties around this.
Randy

[ewizard]

Your welcome. I just spent some time listening to a bunch of Eric Dollard's video's. Probably more time with them then I have at any point in the past. I decided it was time to do the work of finally listening to as much EPD as I had time for today and I found it very well worth it and not as hard to understand as I thought he might be. BTW one of the books Dollard recommends from Steinmetz is the one I uploaded in my post #18 here titled " Electric Discharges Waves and Impulses and other Transients".

[Duncan]

Why thanks for the musical expansion ewiz and great to see you posting tachyocatcher .. really all that needs to be kept in mind (at least electrically)
is that there are two distinct and different natural routes … overtones …and Harmonics and never the twain shall meet !
Right there it would seem that I have slapped poor o'l ewiz with a gauntlet …. Its not so .. having said that it will take a little sorting out.
I sorta wish I hadn't chosen music as an example now … still I wanted you to visualise waves interacting and you have ! Its also necessary that you form an idea of what “perfect” may be as a shape As I explained much earlier overtones and the mathematical progression have been obfuscated , corrupted and certainly in the case of Fourier omitted from the mathematical theory.
The case I asked you to look at “the Xtal” is a natural substance which can be used in two different ways with two very different results overtone progression (odd) and harmonic progression (even)
Its done day in day out its easily provable and the accurate progression in either mode is many many millions of times that of any musical Instrument …. you can stick that in your wallet and take it to the bank.... Its a natural progression and it happens. With perfect tuning it would do it perfectly
to infinity .. many billions of times a second however are not unusual.
In a comparison of scale any musical Instrument is not even on the very bottom step of a very long staircase leading to the moon. human hearing gives up the ghost at a mere 20 Khz or there abouts … so before I start to explain this is what actually happens it is demonstrated billions of times a day by the crystals holding billions of mobile phones accurately on high GHz frequencies. ..
The error then is introduced into your mind in the perception of music. Ewiz … An overtone cannot be a harmonic..not naturally anyway.. but it can in music .. I hope you absorbed all I had to say about “water fracture”
I hope you have formed the picture of the “perfect sine wave” progressing up the scale you also I hope realise the mathematical concept of a perfect sine wave is impossible. (although we can get close)
Music of course even if you don’t realise it has a mathematical base, like everything natural each note is an irregular number. For hundreds of years the instruments the music and the scales have been constructed on this “best fit “ principle after all what ever is done it can never be “perfect”
Imagine the music example (if you wish to) as if it were the water splitting x6 arrangement but because of convenience instead 6:1 the relationship of 5.9:1 is used all may seem well but very quickly the sine waves will mix in the zone of overtones its acceptable in music …and so this is how musicians are taught . This short cut “slight of hand” is of course absolute worthless to electronics technicians where shape form and progression need to be accurately followed in overtones or harmonics many more millions of times and in “real life” conditions.... near enough .. has to be a dam sight nearer than is acceptable in music.
Hi again Boguslaw you are quite right resonance is key to every machine and its not very easy to swing off subject to try and deal with it .. When I was working on the rotoverter Hector once wrote there are seven types of electricity and at the moment we barely understand one of them. I have no reason to disbelieve him.
Resonance has lots different effects and that’s only the few I've been taught about for instance a receiving condition and transmitting condition are mirror images.
A series resonant condition is rather the Inverse of a parallel resonant condition , And then of course if you have tuned into a different dimension things are going to be very different again. I don't pretend to know all about the mathematical intrigue of “parametric resonance” I rather assumed it to be be kith and kin of Stochastic resonance which is the word Hector used to explain to me the transition from chaos to order .. To be honest with you I'm really not to Keen on all these abstract words that seem to pop up out of no where … I'm reminded of my Grandfather who was a cartographer (drew maps) during the 1970s as the “winds of change” swept across Africa .. He despaired of Africa he once said .. “It seems every week some bugger takes over another country,and names it after his Granny and I've got to re-draw the bloody map … again
Because we don't have a lexicon of terms It seems every researcher has developed his own terms to describe what I guess he considers to be his discovery .. of course like Africa .. Its the same country just different name. Just like the rest of the posts I have put here I will approach the affects shape and transition of resonance in the very simplest of terms I can .. possibly with a few examples.
I am in no way going to get very complex Boguslaw or go into some abstract resonant term along with some other undefined unit with some more made up words… if anybody wants to chase their tails like a mad dog or try and round up a herd of cats there are plenty of other threads only to willing to oblige.
I am drawing the picture for everybody as simply as I can .. all you have to do … is comprehend it.
However I suggest that as the music case has been explained and expanded it be dropped ,, its not fit for purpose a bad choice I happened to pick (or perhaps not if Its made you think and at last perhaps grasp what EPD is saying re -music ) .. sorry guys didn't mean to trick ya!

[Duncan]

Bedlam now a word meaning confusion and no direction was actually the name of a lunatic asylum in South London. It was used early in the 1500s . It had a high walled caged area where the lunatics exercised, for ¾ d the general public could watch the lunatics and throw food for them to fight over.
Sort of reminiscent of one or two threads I've had the pleasure of.
I have made several machines that have shown the way to COP+1, each one worked to some degree or another.
Taking a composite of each machine I have made a mental picture of what is happening. As I explained a few posts back no one has seen electricity … the picture drawn for a telecoms guy is very different picture to that presented to a power electrician … I am drawing you “My picture” because it works!
and explaining it as best I can … we have been joined on the thread by at least three people who I know have examples of COP +1 machines … Its answers they want
So every school kid knows energy cannot be made or destroyed I'm sure you know the rest … It can only be changed from one form to another ! Very good so far …. where is all this “other” and what state is it in ? Where is this huge reservoir of energy in a changed form? Well of course Its all around us I have already shown you the dimension and how it may be entered.
I view this energy as having no discernible pattern exactly like the magnetic pendulum … which of course is why I asked you to imagine or build it. You may picture Ion's photons or really whatever you like) whatever it is Its.. popping up here and there with no useful form. In short a “state of Bedlam”
It is of course our ambition to tune into this “state of bedlam” grab equal sized packets of it very very fast and convert these packets into … real usable energy in this dimension and time.
Just like Moray did . As I've pointed out I tend to see things a little askance and so you'll have to forgive me for starting at the arse end first . Euclid transferred shape and space into mathematics and as normal maths and science wont work in the dimension we consider we are forced to stumble forward with shape. It begs the question what is the opposite of the Sine wave? Certainly not the cosine wave that’s just exactly the same thing a bit further down the line.

Well the Sine wave can be constructed from a circle … so its not a circle.
A sine wave changes polarity in a finite known time … so its not that
A sine wave has a time relationship .. If it were “perfect” our opposite would have no time relation

The opposite of course is a straight line , compressed into a space of zero time . You may have heard such a thing referred to as “a scalar” this isn't strictly true .. scale is related to uniform size . A lot of these of uniform size (which is what we actually want) may be called scalars. Each scale-ett (are you having that?) however is not a pulse or a switch action .. It is as far as it can be “perfectly” done a current that totally reverses in Zero time.
All COP+1 electrical systems must have some arrangement which brings this state of affairs to pass.
Some examples are a vibrating contacts in an inductive circuit, a spark gap across a coil, the fabled back emf caused by the brushed switch action of a DC motor, fast semi conductor action . With split coils it can even be achieved with semi conductors. (though not very well) careful heterodyne action as Hector and Dan Combine demonstrate they also reach the same point. UFOalso uses rotating fields to get there.
Now these very rapid actions that you force one into another an a controlled fashion effectively forces a challenge to time, after all nothing can happen in zero time … in theory. However we know from living specimens returned from space that time is at the very least ... variable.
My own personal picture is an event rapidly followed by an identical event compressed hard against the left hand zero time line of a graph .. and then whacked, shocked if you like into the other dimension I have been at pains to point out to you …. Ok Whacked is not a scientific term and its not loaded with pages and pages of endless squiggle …. followed by a few more pages of gibberish if you want loads of that meaningless twaddle there are places …... I can help you there if you really want .
If you want straight shooting … accept that at a phenomenal speed this linear wave you have generated one way or another gets shaken or knocked briefly into a different dimension a different time ratio if you like to view it like that. It is this para space (I have already pointed out where that is)
It is modulated ….. what returns to the dimension with which we are familiar is effectively a little packet of pure energy but with no shape or form …. just an envelope full of Morays “vast sea”
a “packet full of Bedlam”
if you have a signal generator or Function generator .. here is a simple exerciser to demonstrate what happens next … although it is (as aways seems with me) somewhat “In reverse” It is not possible to see a series resonant wave in the normal course of events .. because of course at resonance the impedance drops away to zero (maximum current , no voltage remember ?) however on your oscilloscope you can see parallel resonance , you can also easily tell when you are looking at the fundamental resonant point or simply a harmonic because of course the voltage rises to a maximum .. simple high school stuff I know but we often miss the very obvious …. take any coil and capacitor connect as a tank and find that resonant point.
You will of course see a perfect ?? sine wave …. now change the wave form input to a square wave now what do you see? Now change it to a saw tooth and a triangle … I think you know what you will see in each case … of course its a sine wave … now imagine uniform equal packets of bedlam entering the system at the same frequency what do you think it will be transformed into? ...congratulations you have just escaped bedlam!
The is the job of resonance … to transform and shape a portion of that “sea of energy” into something that can with a bit more work be used. Of course the actual receiving state of afaires
is series tuned .. I use this example simply to demonstrate the transformation.
Randy enquired if it was just a simple case of x6 alas no …. but it is a key part .. it is the only route into the extremely high frequencies where the “sea of energy is” Marcus Reid gives you a pretty good idea of the zone you are tapping and the accurate overtone output and harmonic return your wave must make.
Marcus Reid Crystal Converter Battery - Casimir Effect - Part 1 - YouTube

Unfortunately having gone to all this trouble .. what you have is .. reactive power … the watt-less component …. The stuff you see Tariel lighting bulbs with …. there's more to do....

[Duncan]

Thanks @ewizard!.

So Duncan, what you are saying in the simplest terms are this? A standing wave with harmonic overtones of 6x will open the gates to energy abundance? Just trying to wrap my limited brain faculties around this.
Randy

I'm sorry to have been a while answering Randy I have been a little while mulling over how I might describe what is happening a little clearer I'm acutely aware of how many hours you’ve spent on that system and how long you must have wondered what the hell is going on ….
I have been describing simile’s to try and get near the actual events you are witnessing in real life .
The truth of the matter is Rather like Alice through the looking glass … try this for a piece of doggerel if you like .. then I'll try to simplify it …. the Function Sine and Also the function Cosine are derived from a circle which as everyone knows will not resolve. Neither the Sine wave or the Cosine wave then will resolve … however as one is a derivative of the other we are left with the conclusion that ether one can be made up of the remnants of the other … It isn't that our maths doesn't touch this dimension it does …. It leaves us with at one end of the scale an Infinite amount of the infinitesimal and at the other end an infinitesimal amount of the infinite and no possible way to gauge either one … added to that they are part and parcel of the same wave form.
This “Sea of energy” which so many people describe we know is all around us and in chaos …
so If I had said at the out set … “look here chap's … how would you like to make some special buckets so we can make a very long difficult trip to infinity in order to collect some packets of chaos that’s all around us anyway especially to bring it back to where we started from on a different route on the same road... well if you'd have bought that … it's really just down to which of us sits where in the ambulance on the way to the nut house isn't it?
Never the less its all pretty much true ! I have been stripping the wrapping off bit by bit so you can see … “let the dog see the rabbit” but easy it certainly is not
As I consider the machine you are working on see if this description does it better …
Draw the axis of a graph … on the graph draw a sine wave, the sine wave is how most of us are trained to visualise electricity. However whatever the stuff actually does look like the sine wave is certainly only part of the picture. As your machine is specifically DC you may be wondering what a sin wave has to do with the situation if you read through my last post you will see that any cyclic pattern fed into a resonant circuit will automatically transform into a sine wave ….. this is of course exactly the action of your DC motor... a cyclic pattern
Consider your graph Randy … There are two possible routes from one end to the other . One is of course up and down the sine wave or in a straight line following the base line of the graph.
We are only exposed to one of these concepts, The other proposed and documented by Michael Faraday has been erased from the teaching. His question was really quite simple in principle .. upon what medium does light travel ? In my opinion both of these methods of transition are inherent in the stuff we call electricity. I know EPDs work frightens you but I suggest you listen carefully to the last one of the six clips I indicated … (where he goes series resonant into a feeder) this is actually proving the straight line transition . Or faster than light … or at least faster than the other wave which is taking the scenic route and travelling at the speed of light.
This opens up the conception of an event being projected on one wave only to be returned instantaneously. .. a little like flying over a time line and arriving before you set off. Above all else it is this conception of events happening in different time frames yet at the same time that make this stuff of Steinmetz hard to grasp.
It certainly isn't just as simple as X6 … That's the introduction, if it were that simple many Don Smith and Tariel machines would have been working now if only by accident. The odds of hitting x6 with the correct series resonant tuned circuit in one direction and parallel tuned resonant circuit in the other with the right shaped waveform are of course phenomenal.. as you can see by the hundreds of pages of do do's on both subjects.
As I write this stuff Randy I'm aware you have spent thousands of $s researching and developing and I shudder to think how much David has stretched himself . Not to mention the thousands of others around the world on different projects. a huge debt needs to be addressed in some way or another to the tenacity and determination of a lot of people. All that being said and done my object is to get the principle of the operation of COP+1 machines out of the closet, Needs must I demonstrate and drill down into at least one of them … I guess I may as well take a swipe at yours. The circuit itself couldn't after all get any simpler and Its been reproduced by many people. I have also I must confess carefully avoided Bogaslaws question …. lest I confuse (even more) The first thing to try and grasp Randy is the journey from one end of the sine wave you have drawn to the other that is point A to point B. one wave has a scenic route following the harmonics 2,4,8,16, and so on .. it follows the trace of a sine wave.
There is also a “high speed, direct route highway” which runs though a tunnel out of sight following the overtones 3,5,7,9, It is realistic to accomplish the journey twice going through the tunnel in the same time it takes to do it once taking the scenic route particularly as the scenic route has some coils in the way to slow things down a bit , The toll gate for the harmonic route takes a card marked “parallel resonance” the toll gate for high speed route takes a card marked “series resonance”
For others reading here I'll take a little time out to describe this system in its simplest terms and explain what’s happening

[Duncan]

cont....

More years ago than I care to remember David Bowing after reading about “The Tesla switch” for some reason dug around in his Junk box, found a totally knackered lead acid battery. A halfway decent battery and an old DC brushed motor, after mucking about with it for a few hours it ended up connected like the first sketch (ish)



David wasn't particularly surprised when it did nothing, after all how could it ? there a totally sulphated battery in the circuit, he threw the mess on a shelf in disgust and went off to do something else. Some hour's later David heard some burglars in his basement and cautiously went to investigate … luckily It wasn't burglars It was the motor … It had started itself, Interested David tried to stop it with his hand .. the harder he tried to stop the thing the more power it pushed out. David connected an inverter to this sulphated battery and found he could run no end of machines for hours and hours … and far from going down ,, the "Shot" battery was slowly recovering …
Amazed David appeared on the Stirling Allen show in order to proclaim the wonder. Eventually for whatever reason , the machine stopped …
many people have duplicated and experienced this odd phenomena (well into double figures) .. and as chance would have it ... so have I , The circuit is so very simple It belies an awful lot of things which are happening here by amazing chance. As the tale unfolds and you piece together the theory of this machine and by extension all the others you can hardly help but be stunned at the odds of it happening once …. never mind the numbers who have seen this happen in front of them … and wondered what miraculous force they were watching and from whence it came.
It has been pointed out by Peter Lindermann and a deal of others that standard DC motor theory tells us that V= (IaxRa) +Eb There is really not much to this … Eb is the back emf which you would expect to see (when a circuit breaker opens an ignition coil is a pretty good example) … It is in opposition to the current that caused it …. standard theory … Ia Ra is of course a voltage .. it is the very small voltage dropped across the armature . Just as Tom Bearden and Peter Linderman have pointed out at various times most of the available power is used to overcome the force creating it..... As TB says In the clip I presented earlier .. “the stupidest circuit”. However in this particular situation and as far as we are concerned its doing a “grand job” To all intense and purposes Its totally reversing the current very fast (relatively)
Tesla admonishes us to consider the whole circuit and not simply one part. So at this point it Behoves to answer Bogaslaws question . Which roughly paraphrased and looking at the drawing was … you have a capacitor (you might consider a battery to be a huge capacitor) and a coil what difference if its in series or parallel ? In other words he encourages us to “divide the circuit” and assume that say one battery and the motor for example are actually then connected in parallel with the other battery ….. just cant do that I'm afraid Bogaslaws … you must consider the whole. That of course Includes external energy flowing into a system , Impedance , power transfer , and the Aether or sea of energy .. (or whatever the hell else you wish to call it). I of course will have to divide the circuit up in order to describe what each section is doing …. however I have already considered “the whole” so the bottom sketch is a revised circuit to go with this with rough outline.
So lets try “ put it together” … we'll assume the machine is running COP+1 an unmistakable condition once its been experienced. .. as the system eagerly throws huge amounts of energy at you and rather like driving a highly tuned and powerful motor car you can't help but be aware there's plenty more in the tank... You will see those on that thread refer to this experience as “being in the zone” .. Its exhilarating .. quite apart from anything else any doubts or scepticism regarding COP+1 are blown right out of the water.
Starting off with the position the battery has to play …
Of course because you are aware that in the normal state of affairs the battery is the only possible source of power … you expect it to be so … Indeed this is in a away the very biggest hurdle for even top flight scientists to overcome and no doubt what caused an investigator to smash up Bedini's “Tesla switch” The battery is to all intense and purposes a reference point … When set up correctly it is supplying no energy to the system what so ever … Indeed it is highly probable that it will absorb power and charge up …. This unfortunately alters the “Impedance” of the battery which upsets the very careful balance that’s required to harvest huge amounts of free energy.
The battery could be viewed as a “marker” A line drawn in the sand which in terms of the Sine wave says Here is Infinitesimal ! What this battery “sees” is only reactive power .
The current and voltage relationship is carefully adjusted by altering the frequency (motor speed)
to the point where VI cos = 0 = this is the ideal of course .. In practice very difficult to achieve .
As I have pointed out before the Transverse (Sine wave) is synonymous with parallel resonance
whilst the much faster Linear wave is synonymous with series resonance.(just as Eric tells you in the six lectures I asked you to watch)
Whilst using no “real power” the battery reflects the wave into the crystal lattice. This however however is Series resonant again because of frequency adjustment (motor speed) This is why Tesla tells us we must consider “The whole circuit” And why I refrained from answering Bogaslaws question … sure there are effectively two battery's and a shared coil .. but as you perhaps start to see they are tuned entirely differently with very different results … and the whole circuit hasn't been considered yet !
That magic x6 inversion starts through the crystal lattice just like it does in the Xtal in every mobile phone in the world! At a phenomenally high frequency as pointed out by John Hutchinson,& Marcus Reid ,The linear wave on encountering the Aether which you could regard “meeting physical resistance” again transforms into a sine wave modulated with aetheric energy. And is reflected back though the lattice as a transverse wave. It is in this form that Purely “wire “ systems receive their energy … Reactive RF .. good for some lighting but not much else.
Most investigators have difficulty visualising how energy reactive or not could be essentially travelling the same path in opposite directions at the same time … In fact I recall Matt mentioning “The voltage flips” … Its odds and evens remember … you could visualise it as people walking down the left hand side of the road with even numbered houses and returning up the right hand side of the road with odd numbered houses for company.
The crystal lattice in this series resonant state becomes a super effective “energy vacuum cleaner” … much like a ferrite rod in a transistor radio that’s resonant at the desired frequency .
The crystal Lattice has one more trick up its sleeve which as a basic system puts it head and shoulders above most Its noted in quite a lot of the work Ibpointless2 has been kind enough to post on forum Its the piezo electric effect ! After the resonant transformation (which I suggested you try but in a parallel circuit) … the returning sine wave is now hugely enriched by the Aetheric power with which it has been modulated .
The EHF vibration of the crystals with semiconductor effect most unusually for electric COP +1 machines ….. produce real power in phase in this dimension. Unlike most which of course tend to produce an output which is mostly reactive … good for lighting various lamps and wot not … but not much else that we (I) know about yet.
LeeskalninPhysics2.wmv - YouTube
The aggravation of the 3BS system of course is there is such a huge amount of energy thundering into it Its almost impossible to stop the batteries charging and so altering their characteristics slightly .. the very finely tuned state that is required to make that X6 transfer through very narrow bands to EHF is lost. Now you see the system a little more laid out …. you can see its surprising that so many people have actually experienced it. The use of “old” batteries to convert reactive power to a more useful form Is used by quite a lot of investigator's not least John Bedini,
Ossie Callanan and of course Doug Konzen.
The Callanan's Infinite Power Supply (IPS) : Full tests report by JL Naudin
The wonder of T Morays system was he discovered or developed a substance that would remain stable . He needed very little of it and so used an antenna but in most other respects it is essentially the 3BS system.

[Turion]

I would only add one thing to the story of my first setup. I used three batteries. Two good ones in series and the third "bad battery" reversed. Below is the first couple paragraphs from the 3BGS thread.

"We assembled a circuit similar to one first posted by John Bedini some years ago. It called for two charged batteries, one discharged battery and a load. I chose to use a 12 volt DC motor as the load. We had a battery that would neither take, nor hold a charge, and decided to use it for our third battery. When we initially put the system together and threw the switch, nothing happened. About ten to fifteen minutes later the motor suddenly started up. The voltage on the bad battery would suddenly jump to 24 volts. It would go down to about 18 volts, and then the motor would slowly start and begin to run, speeding up gradually. The voltage would continue to drop down to around nine volts, at which time the motor would suddenly shut off and the voltage would immediately jump back to 24 volts and the cycle would repeat.

To try and get the system to keep from shutting off, I ASSUMED I needed to keep the battery in the third position from becoming charged, so I began to hook loads to it. I used an inverter and powered all kinds of loads, balancing the load on battery three by putting an additional load on the motor. To make a long story short, it did amazing things. Then it quit... after I took it apart, transported it to California, brought it back home, and tried to reassemble it."

It was and IS my belief that the 24 volts I measured on the "bad battery" was a measurement of the difference between the voltage in it and in the two good batteries in series. That difference would go RAPIDLY (within about 10-15 minutes) down to 18 volts and then the motor would start. It would continue to go down to around 9 volts and then the motor would shut off. The voltage would immediately jump back up to 24 volts and the cycle would repeat. This behavior of this particular bad battery holds the KEY to what makes this setup produce unlimited power. No other battery I have tried since has duplicated this behavior. Almost all the ones I try will drop down to 18 volts and the motor will come on. NONE have continued to drop down to 9 volts and shut the motor down.

Dave

[boguslaw]

Please bear with me I can't read long text in english (kind of a problem with many thoughts running into different regions when reading each of sentence).
Funny thing that I hadn't that in the past , seems I'm getting older...


Just take a capacitor , charge it and connect to the coil : what is that ? what kind of resonance ? where is reactive power (escaped?) ? Think out of the box.

[Duncan]

TK and DS

Please bear with me I can't read long text in english (kind of a problem with many thoughts running into different regions when reading each of sentence).
Funny thing that I hadn't that in the past , seems I'm getting older...


Just take a capacitor , charge it and connect to the coil : what is that ? what kind of resonance ? where is reactive power (escaped?) ? Think out of the box.

Thanks for reading and posting Dave …. I'm actually grateful that guys that did it all first like MJN and yourself don’t get too bent out of shape as I trample rough shod over their works , I allowed myself myself a little descriptive licence with your work David just to make things as simple as I possibly can … In order to test the reversing current and standing waves proposition .. I have at various stages replaced the DC motor with a variable frequency push pull circuit and the “good battery” with external PSU while monitoring the standing wave .
The Impedance as you probably already know especially at reasonably high frequencies is a function of material and shape (amongst other things) Its a physical relationship like your TV aerial a specific shape … similar construction batteries at the input and output make perfect sense so does an additional battery as the product of (Ia Ra) has to be overcome … to get in frequency range so that “ping pong” effect I describe can be brought to fruition is the ambition …. to hold it there …. is a very different matter and certainly right out of the range of this slap stick overview … regardless of if your view is mathematical, physical or electrical you are essentially trying to balance one ball on top of another … it takes a bit of doing.

However it might be as simple as asking Moray's son ..if you could I have a look at some of that rock stuff his dad left laying about I seem to recall he's pretty interested in finding the truth himself?
In crude terms mayer did it by posting sentries around the ball and if it looked like it might tip .. push it back into place … complex to say the least …. Puharich used an analogue system which he draws as “feedback” (very informative -not) .. the circuitry of Meissner I suspect.. which cold well prove to be applicable to your system if a stable physical answer isn’t found.

Great stuff Boguslaw ! Keep at it, If I keep scribbling and you keep reading … at some point there will be an Archimedes eureka moment. (lets hope so anyway) I'm busy getting the systems under one umbrella right now … as long as you have the basic concepts so far .. that there are two very different sorts of electricity. One about which we are taught in a way that keeps the other hidden,
that one travels in a straight line and the other is a transverse wave, that when travelling through a guide (cable for instance) both types of electricity can occupy the same space and are free to go in either direction. “without let or hindrance”for they are in a different dimensions a simplistic explanation for a telecoms guy may be .. this is not “frequency multiplexing” it is “time multiplexing”
In these systems I use this term “perfect” with reserve a “A prefect Sine wave” and “ current reversal in zero time is a requisite to cross the boarder from one dimension to the other.
And if this wasn't enough of a pain .. both series and parallel resonance need to be maintained at key parts in the same circuit.
I have also explained the direct relationship between the pendulum (magnetic and simple) and all the electrical systems … and the same goes for a pendulum attached to a pendulum if you have grasped those points then don’t worry much about the rest of my spiel it will probably become apparent As I point out the various ways others have achieved these Key stages.
Although a progression that’s reversed in water fracture MJN has shown us his approach and it is to form two “perfect?” sine waves … with exactly the right x6 separation he is if you will using real power all be it just a few watts to power and hold the correct relationship.
The reversing is done by different methods by different players … for instance here is a common circuit used in radio's a while ago before you just bought “a chip”
Redirect Notice

I'm sure you can see each EL34 valve is responsible for supplying ½ of the power to the transformer . One valve is amplifying the + going signal whilst the other is amplifying the – going signal
use is then made of the fact that one end of a transformer is anti phase to the other. The return current through the centre tap must then be quickly changing direction with each cycle. Ossie callanan used the same circuit and principle in the example I posted before.
The Callanan's Infinite Power Supply (IPS) : Full tests report by JL Naudin
although I'm not sure if JLN has caught the significance of “bad batteries” in Ossie's description.
If a very solid and reliable sine wave can be used in this inductive circuit a very quick total reversal is guaranteed. There are many similarities between Don Smiths and TK machines but here is an example of TK using this exact technique to ensure he has the correct changing current regardless of circuit conditions and load. Some time ago some may remember Tariel was seriously poisoned whilst in hospital he agreed that a friend of his be allowed to demonstrate one of his devices to Wesley … I suspect Wesley got to see rather more than would have been the case if Tariel had been there …. Here you see the technique I describe above to provide an anti phase condition. And the reversal . . this is essentially preforming the same task as The Motor in the 3BS whilst removing the necessity of critical tuning
.Tariel Kapanadze HV generating circuit SHVGS - YouTube
The significance of the coax now becomes quite obvious too … For those who haven't quite grasped the significance of standing waves and reflected power .. coax is a good example .. you buy the stuff and it says on the drum 50 ohm coax or perhaps 75 ohm coax .. really where do you measure that ? This clip gives you pretty much the standard view of things
Use a scope to measure the length and impedance of coax - YouTube
although of course it is the exact series resonant point that Tariel would be seeking in order to set the X6 affect into action (The reverse remember the one they dont teach or tell you about) … given what is effectively an open line feeder Tariel would have then with a very sharp point pierced the outer sheath of the coax in order to make contact with the braid …. he would have to do this quite a few times until he found the linear wave resonant point … Just as Eric did with frequency on the open line feeder I asked you to watch.
Hide everything and cover it with tape .. Job done I hope Ewiz you took very good note of the size of that Earth cable!!!
I haven’t bothered looking at that thread over on OU.com for a long time … but as I was writing this I just went over there for a look …. wow they are having loads of fun … Thousands of pages … best leave them to it … that's what I think.

[Turion]

Duncan,
You can trample on my work or stomp it into the mud for all I care. If that is what it takes to figure this all out, I'll get my boots on and help! Thanks for this post. It may inspire some folks to try some things that haven't been tried before and we might get lucky.

Dave