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    Please watch Perpetual cross-shaped machine and spring powered wheel videos
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bmjBTSdCiVg

  • #2
    Is this for real, or just a trick?
    For example this spring powered wheel : would this work with 2 bicycle wheels of different diameters and a spring which holds the small wheel against the big one ? I can't imagine that.
    Another one:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OWRyYYX7JxE
    In Realstrannik
    Google Translate
    the User minerolium who claims to be the friend of andrey ermola the inventor, and also recommends your experiment shown in the yt link.
    So maybe ermolas invention is related to this :
    Levers of different length having the same momentum , but because of different length the forces differ also. This different forces applied to another levers on a shaft will rotate it. This description on the end of the film is logically to me, but when looking closely , you will notice that one level will barely touch the upper lever of the rotating shaft. Is this upper lever not needed. That makes me suspicious.

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    • #3
      One lever is enough

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      • #4
        tried to replicate

        Hello Veproject1

        one lever is enough, so it's fairly simple to replicate . And that I did, using a rotor which I used for an Adams motor replication. The bearing is from a bicycle hub and so this aluminum wheel turns fairly smooth and for a long duration.

        But it comes to a stop. There is no noticeable influence on the rotation of the wheel. Any thoughts ?
        Attached Files

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        • #5
          Originally posted by EMCSQ View Post
          But it comes to a stop.
          All this just to prove that you can change the name but it's still (not) perpetual motion. BTW, 'perpetuum mobile' is a misappropriated musical term.

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          • #6
            illusion of torque

            It looks like a quirky illusion. Even though the upper horizontal 'axle' arm appears to be able to spin axially 'downward', it actually does not have that potential. This is because together with the lower horizontal arm (or in your photo, the bottom of the pan) the two horizontal arms practically form a rigid plane in the direction that matters, as if they were a rigid plane. And it's then clear to see it's just an overly elaborate way of holding the weight bearing arm out...its the same as if it was just rigidly attached in the direction concerned. Vector analysis can be very tricky. When I looked at each vector it was not immediately apparent why it wouldn't move. Only the strong intuition that it couldn't 'bootstrap' turn itself keep me look at the whole to understand it better. The video in link above it actually much trickier than the photo of your pan where it's easier to see it can't do anything.

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            • #7
              My favourite Perpetuum Mobile -

              perpetual motion machine selfrunning - YouTube

              Permanent magnets - but consider polarities !!!
              Last edited by GSM; 12-14-2013, 08:12 AM.

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              • #8
                Or another Perpetuum Mobile arrangement, showing the three-dimensional and rotational aspects of magnetic fields -
                not just their longitudinal attraction and repulsion -

                How to build FREE ENERGY magnetic motor - YouTube

                Cheers ............. Graham.
                Last edited by GSM; 12-16-2013, 09:05 PM.

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                • #9
                  Project Camelot looks at George Green's magnetic motor - YouTube

                  Magnetic motor spinning disc 3 - YouTube
                  Last edited by GSM; 12-18-2013, 09:15 PM.

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