History of Light Water Anomalous Heat, and ICCF-18

[PhysicsProf]

I'm very interested in understanding anomalous heat production in light water (H2O) experiments - and the history of research in this area.

(Light water anomalous heat -- as opposed to claims of "cold fusion", now "LENR = Low Energy NUCLEAR Reactions", in heavy water = D2O... Yes, there are SMALL LENR effects (not Quantitatively correlated with excess heat production ) -- but I hypothesize that these represent a distinct phenomenon from the excess heat (using D2O or deuterium) claims.)
Steven Jones replica: Pons & Fleischmann XS Heat not from fusion

I'll be going to the ICCF-18 conference in two weeks at Univ of Missouri... My hypothesis is that what Pons&F saw in heavy water, excess heat they claimed was due to "cold fusion" -- was not fusion and probably was not even NUCLEAR in origin at all; that they would have seen the same effects in LIGHT WATER H2O if they had pursued this sufficiently. It is best to call it, an "unknown source of energy".

I've traced light-water energy-production claims as far as Peter Davey of New Zealand, who rec'd a NZ patent for his H2O device in about 1945. The Davey-bell apparatus is quite interesting, and I have presented some experimental results from my own studies of Davey-type devices.

But I'd like to find out about others who have contributed to light-water energy research - and WHEN they did the research.

Michael Nunnerley -- told me that his researches in this area began in 1989, independent of Pons&F.)

Dr. Ronald Stiffler did electrolysis work in light water -- when did his researches in this area begin?

Stanley Meyer -- did any of his work involve electrolysis? not that electrolysis is REQUIRED for H2O-anomalous heat... Also, when did he begin his studies of energy production in light water?

Keeley? I don't know much about what he did with water, but would like to learn.

Rossi also Defkalion -- both claim energy (heat) production with light water; when did their researches begin?

Any pointers in this area would be appreciated.

[Stealth]

To learn more about John Ernst Worrell Keely, purchase the book, "Universal Laws", written and deciphered by Dale Pond, with help from someone who has possession of some of Keely's notes. Obviously some of his information is missing. He was sued over the information from his patent and purposely eliminated some of the information to keep it out of the hands of those who would use it to further their empires and make huge profits at the expense of the general populace. I think Dale did a great job of deciphering most of Keely's writings. He used words not easily digested in our vocabulary. Without Dale's help, it would be extremely hard to understand most of his writings. Even so, what has been conveyed by Dale may not be 100% accurate, but is good food for thought. This book explains what we were not taught in science classes. It deals with the natural world, just like Tesla and Shauberger did. Good Luck. stealth

[PhysicsProf]

Thanks, Stealth. I will look for that book, sounds very interesting.

" purposely eliminated some of the information to keep it out of the hands of those who would use it to further their empires and make huge profits at the expense of the general populace."

I share this concern. However, I'm quite sure that TPTB already have the technology we seek to discover to benefit humanity -- and that they are withholding the "new technology" for their own purposes and eventual profit. (I could detail evidences for THAT; but perhaps you have reached a similar conclusion.)

Meanwhile -- it is certainly true that much of the world's family languishes for lack of a cheap, clean energy source - an unfortunate situation that must be remedied. We have this challenge before us.

[tutanka]

I'm very interested in understanding anomalous heat production in light water (H2O) experiments - and the history of research in this area.

(Light water anomalous heat -- as opposed to claims of "cold fusion", now "LENR = Low Energy NUCLEAR Reactions", in heavy water = D2O... Yes, there are SMALL LENR effects (not Quantitatively correlated with excess heat production ) -- but I hypothesize that these represent a distinct phenomenon from the excess heat (using D2O or deuterium) claims.)
Steven Jones replica: Pons & Fleischmann XS Heat not from fusion

I'll be going to the ICCF-18 conference in two weeks at Univ of Missouri... My hypothesis is that what Pons&F saw in heavy water, excess heat they claimed was due to "cold fusion" -- was not fusion and probably was not even NUCLEAR in origin at all; that they would have seen the same effects in LIGHT WATER H2O if they had pursued this sufficiently. It is best to call it, an "unknown source of energy".

I've traced light-water energy-production claims as far as Peter Davey of New Zealand, who rec'd a NZ patent for his H2O device in about 1945. The Davey-bell apparatus is quite interesting, and I have presented some experimental results from my own studies of Davey-type devices.

But I'd like to find out about others who have contributed to light-water energy research - and WHEN they did the research.

Michael Nunnerley -- told me that his researches in this area began in 1989, independent of Pons&F.)

Dr. Ronald Stiffler did electrolysis work in light water -- when did his researches in this area begin?

Stanley Meyer -- did any of his work involve electrolysis? not that electrolysis is REQUIRED for H2O-anomalous heat... Also, when did he begin his studies of energy production in light water?

Keeley? I don't know much about what he did with water, but would like to learn.

Rossi also Defkalion -- both claim energy (heat) production with light water; when did their researches begin?

Any pointers in this area would be appreciated.

Water is just one part of the key..

AIR + WATER + SUN= Energy

Stan Meyer have understand, after some time, that these elements are connected togheter.