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[Berg]

Finding Its Own Resonance



Check out this video: Self Resonating Powering Circuit for HHO cell - YouTube

Can a circuit find its own resonance?

Regards,

Berg

[SunofFather]

Гость УСТАНОВКА - YouTube

Опыт 12 08 12 - YouTube

Were these two videos made by the same person?

Regards,

Berg

No. He's is diferent persons.

[Guruji]

Hi Berg yes that circuit SRDv2 looks the same as the Chubinidze I call it.
Maybe he's the same guy who did that shcematic.

[gyula]

Check out this video: Self Resonating Powering Circuit for HHO cell - YouTube

Can a circuit find its own resonance?

Regards,

Berg

Hi Berg,

The short answer is yes but the question needs a little rephrasing.
Basically the circuit is a Meissner oscillator (name of a German inventor) and one of its components, C1 (which influences the oscillating frequency as L1 also does) is the HHO cell itself. Obviously the HHO cell behaves as a variable capacitor during the HHO gas creation because the dielectric material between the plates (the water and gas) continuously changes, thus the oscillator frequency also continuously changes.
Every oscillator operates at a particular frequency, determined in any moment by their actual main LC tank elements. Such oscillator cannot readily work at frequencies other than what the L1C1 determines in any moment because it is always the parallel LC tank circuit which has the highest impedance at its resonant frequency (away from its resonance the impedance greatly reduces to a small reactance) and the oscillator transistor 'needs' to see a high collector impedance so that amplification should take place and a small amount of the oscillating voltage from the L1C1 tank could be fed back via L2 to the base to maintain the positive feedback i.e. to maintain oscillations. So the oscillating frequency changes automatically as the HHO cell instanteneous "capacitor value" dictates, the oscillator transistor will always "see" a parallel L1C1, it does not care much about the actual resonant frequency as long as it has enough hFE (Beta) within that frequency range.

Now to rephrase a little your question:

Can this circuit oscillate when its tuning capacitor (C1) is the HHO cell itself?

Yes it can, as long as the HHO cell behaves indeed as a capacitor element and the L1C1 tank circuit thus created will have high enough impedance at the whatever resonant frequency to maintain oscillations, together with the active device (the transistor). Obviously the HHO cell can create only a lossy capacitor which greatly determines the loaded Q of the L1C1 tank and this determines the real working impedance for the collector of the transistor.

Question is whether the distance between the plates in the HHO cell, the active area size of the plates and the water with the gas bubbles all together give a capacitor value (albeit a changing one) which together with the coil L1 just give an oscillating frequency just correct for the efficient dissociation of water molecules? Surely the coil needs to be adjusted in a wide range to hit a more or less correct oscillating frequency...

Does this answer your question?

regards, Gyula

PS You wrote in the schematics: L1=L2=L3 I do not fully agree with this, especially with L1=L2, this is not needed, L2 can have much less number of turns than L1 has. (As the text under the schematic says, it also depends on the transistor (hFE).
Also, the capacitors (C1 C2 C3) to be of equal values: not really possible or would be unneccessarily difficult to build) that a HHO cell (C1) will have 50 uF capacitance like used at C2. Why did you decide these to be equal?

[Berg]

Chubinidze

Hi Berg yes that circuit SRDv2 looks the same as the Chubinidze I call it.
Maybe he's the same guy who did that shcematic.

Thanks for that info. I'll do a search on Chubinidze.

Regards,

Berg

[Berg]

No. He's is diferent persons.

Thanks. I wasn't sure.

Regards,

Berg

[Berg]

Synthesis of Concepts

Hi Berg,

The short answer is yes but the question needs a little rephrasing.
Basically the circuit is a Meissner oscillator (name of a German inventor) and one of its components, C1 (which influences the oscillating frequency as L1 also does) is the HHO cell itself. Obviously the HHO cell behaves as a variable capacitor during the HHO gas creation because the dielectric material between the plates (the water and gas) continuously changes, thus the oscillator frequency also continuously changes.
Every oscillator operates at a particular frequency, determined in any moment by their actual main LC tank elements. Such oscillator cannot readily work at frequencies other than what the L1C1 determines in any moment because it is always the parallel LC tank circuit which has the highest impedance at its resonant frequency (away from its resonance the impedance greatly reduces to a small reactance) and the oscillator transistor 'needs' to see a high collector impedance so that amplification should take place and a small amount of the oscillating voltage from the L1C1 tank could be fed back via L2 to the base to maintain the positive feedback i.e. to maintain oscillations. So the oscillating frequency changes automatically as the HHO cell instanteneous "capacitor value" dictates, the oscillator transistor will always "see" a parallel L1C1, it does not care much about the actual resonant frequency as long as it has enough hFE (Beta) within that frequency range.

Now to rephrase a little your question:

Can this circuit oscillate when its tuning capacitor (C1) is the HHO cell itself?

Yes it can, as long as the HHO cell behaves indeed as a capacitor element and the L1C1 tank circuit thus created will have high enough impedance at the whatever resonant frequency to maintain oscillations, together with the active device (the transistor). Obviously the HHO cell can create only a lossy capacitor which greatly determines the loaded Q of the L1C1 tank and this determines the real working impedance for the collector of the transistor.

Question is whether the distance between the plates in the HHO cell, the active area size of the plates and the water with the gas bubbles all together give a capacitor value (albeit a changing one) which together with the coil L1 just give an oscillating frequency just correct for the efficient dissociation of water molecules? Surely the coil needs to be adjusted in a wide range to hit a more or less correct oscillating frequency...

Does this answer your question?

regards, Gyula

PS You wrote in the schematics: L1=L2=L3 I do not fully agree with this, especially with L1=L2, this is not needed, L2 can have much less number of turns than L1 has. (As the text under the schematic says, it also depends on the transistor (hFE).
Also, the capacitors (C1 C2 C3) to be of equal values: not really possible or would be unneccessarily difficult to build) that a HHO cell (C1) will have 50 uF capacitance like used at C2. Why did you decide these to be equal?

My idea is to use it not for HHO but for experimentation.

I'm trying to combine two ideas.

The idea of resonance (tortuga0303):
Energy Propagation - YouTube

And the idea of self-correcting resonant circuit:
Self Resonating Powering Circuit for HHO cell - YouTube

My other point is that the SRD v2.0 circuits looks a lot like the circuit used by tortuga0303.

My other point is what is the spark gap doing?

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Circuit by tortuga0303


SRD v2.0

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Modified Meissner Oscillator Circuit

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Regards,

Berg

[Berg]

How Like Tesla



Is the SRD just a hyped up Tesla Coil circuit?

Regards,

Berg

[Guruji]

I've build this circuit SRD but did not work on a ZVS driver.
A guy told me that it should have an inverter driver to work.
I am building an inverter driver now to see.
Regards.

[vidbid]

Build

I've build this circuit SRD but did not work on a ZVS driver.
A guy told me that it should have an inverter driver to work.
I am building an inverter driver now to see.
Regards.

Awesome!

Please share your results with us.

Regards,

Berg

[Berg]

Cp & Cs Values and Voltages

No. He's is diferent persons.

Thanks, again.

I just thought of this follow-up question.

Please take a look at the following image.



Does the author of the first video give the primary and secondary capacitors' values and voltages?

This video: Гость УСТАНОВКА - YouTube

If so, can you please tells what they are?

Regards,

Berg

[Berg]

Energy Synthesis

Interesting discussion on energy synthesis by Eric P. Dollard.

Eric Dollard 2007 Presentation - Misconceptions of Electricity and More - YouTube

also earlier discussion by him on dielectric lines of force.

Transverse & Longitudinal Electric Waves - Eric Dollard & Tom Brown - YouTube

Regards,

Berg

PS: Posted this material because I believe the theory relates to how the device (SRD) operates.

[clarence]

AUDIO TRANSLATION REQUEST - SMIT 1-youtube

Interesting discussion on energy synthesis by Eric P. Dollard.

Eric Dollard 2007 Presentation - Misconceptions of Electricity and More - YouTube

also earlier discussion by him on dielectric lines of force.

Transverse & Longitudinal Electric Waves - Eric Dollard & Tom Brown - YouTube

Regards,

Berg

PS: Posted this material because I believe the theory relates to how the device (SRD) operates.

Hello Berg,

Clarence here,

I would humbly like to request an audio translation of the shown build on the SMIT 1 video on you tube. I have been working on that same Don Smith device and I believe an audio translation would help TREMENDOUSLY to all forum members. my request is open to all forum members who can help out with this translation. thanks in advance fellow members!

as always, mike onward!

[Berg]

LMD Waves Beats TEM Waves

See The L.M.D./T.E.M.Test

and

Check out this video:

Longitudinal Magneto-Dielectric Waves vs. Transverse Electromagnetic Waves; Eric Dollard Replication - YouTube

This is a replication of Eric's Dollard's and Tom Brown's Borderland Sciences video. This video compares the so called non existent longitudinal magneto-dielectric wave to the standard electro-magnetic wave. Sorry for any scuffs in audio quality. The results obtained in this video demonstrate that the speed of light is just a unit and can be exceeded. We are not bound to this. Also, calculating the resonant frequency of a free oscillating coil for LMD structure is of yet unknown. My appreciation towards all those who did the initial testing; this is a replication, but an important one.
Future tests with analog computers shall be on the way, although I've just read some interesting material on the 'Od' as the Baron Reichenbach puts it, and might become immersed.

Regards,

Berg

PS: Thanks, Clarence.

[SunofFather]

Thanks, again.

I just thought of this follow-up question.

Please take a look at the following image.



Does the author of the first video give the primary and secondary capacitors' values and voltages?

This video: Гость УСТАНОВКА - YouTube

If so, can you please tells what they are?

Regards,

Berg

Cs is 750 volts 0.5 uF