lol another of those .. is it isn't it

[Turion]

His email:

vanghely@yahoo.es

Unfortunately, I do not speak the language, so I will not be contacting him.

Dave

[ewizard]

I actually did try to go to that web site with the .ro but nothing came up. I even Googled it and found nothing. It must have been down at that moment. Thanks for bringing it up here. I'll try making contact using Google translate.


His contact message system on his site does not seem to work. I just get a spinning circle when you hit send. Tried two different browsers and sent msg in Romanian. Tried 4 times with no luck. Message direct to his email did seem to go through though and I invited him to come here as well as asking him some questions.

[ewizard]

Turion, It's not hard to communicate with nearly anyone now with Google Translate: https://translate.google.com/?hl=en&tab=wT
if you were not aware of that. It works well enough to get most communication across.

Just pick the language you want to go 'from' and 'to'.

[ewizard]

Surprise! I already got a reply. Unfortunately I don't think Google translate did too well with the answer and he only seems to have replied to one question. Below is his reply in original Romanian and then the Google translate of it. If anyone can do better with it please post.

generatorul nostrum este in probe va fi disponibi in 3 sapamani sre vanzare
cu respect valky

Google translation: nostrum generator is in evidence will be availability in 3 sapamani sre sale with respect Valky

Not sure what 'sapamani' is .... months? and I'm guessing 'sre' was maybe a typo or it probably means 'for'. One of my questions was whether they are for sale. I also asked about the device with HV insulators and the other white box (probably a motor controller). There were other questions too I asked but apparently those were not answered. If he really has something that can power a home I'm sure he is getting a lot of email.

NOTE: I was playing around with Google translate and I believe he made a typo on 'sapamani'. If it was saptamani then that translates to 'weeks'. So apparently he is saying they will be for sale in 3 weeks.

[ewizard]

A new response from Valky on the price the generators will sell for (Google translation): yes will be the price of 1.20 euros per watt

1.20 Euros at current exchange rate = $1.62 U.S.

[ewizard]

A similar device from a French company: Directory:Power JMD - PESWiki - their site: POWERJMD | Free electricity | electricité gratuite | énergie libre | free energy

They say they are close to market. They are talking with U.S. Lawyers and plan to get it certified and manufacture in the U.S. also. This one also (based on the prototype 1 video I watched) needs to be plugged into the wall briefly to get it started and then it is unplugged and runs loads.

[Farmhand]

Well here's hoping it is legit, would be nice if it is. Somehow I doubt it
as the same lines of promise have been given before in other cases.

If anyone buys a unit without an explanation of what it does and how,
then they are not being astute in my opinion.

What is it actually doing and how ? Anyone ?

Salute. (ala Cheers)

[ewizard]

I've asked the inventor some questions about it but no responses to those. IMO it works by the principles that are explained in some detail here:
backgauges.com if you can get through reading all the info there without the religious type statements distracting you I believe you'll have an idea how these work. Also several of the top researchers (IMO) here were discussing something about COP > 1 from mechanical advantage in an arrangement that had an out of balance wheel. I'm trying to remember more details about who and what that was but what I do recall thinking about it is that it had a weighted wheel which was not balanced and that fits what I have understood about how the Gen-E-sys generator works but it's just a different way of getting the timing to extract energy from such a system. I think Duncan also has provided info on how nearly all of these devices have commonalities. What I've taken away from this renewed interest in motor generators (Sterling Allen says he's seen 23 different ones) is they all have some mechanism or another to extract power in a timed fashion and usually use the leverage of a flywheel to keep things running smoothly. Do you know if you remove the flywheel from a V-8 gas engine it cannot run?

[boguslaw]

Only open mind is required to get idea of device. Look how many uneducated, underestimated people made a working devices. Truly God is merciful.
I have been wondering for years why a Good Lord would force us to dig deep into Earth for oil, gas or coal, risking life and health...In fact it is our choice.
Read one of testimony :

"When I arrived in Washington and laid my plans before the patent office experts, they merely smiled and told me that I would have to build a model and demonstrate my claims --- that it seemed strange that I, unknown as I am in the electrical world, should have accomplished the things for which Edison, Tesla and other experts have been striving for years.
"They could not grasp the meaning of my drawings nor the explanation I tried to make to them. There was little time to spare, as I had only 20 days left of my leave, but I set to work in a few days was able to take a crude model around to the patent office to make a demonstration.

"Arriving at the patent office I telephoned to a friend who had been so kind as to introduce me and aid me in reaching the proper officials. The absorber was hoisted on two short poles and made to work. While they were as yet unable to understand the principles involved and hardly willing to believe their eyes, they were forced to admit that I had something new and different, and they told me that there would be no further objection; that I might file my application without further delay.

"I hope to construct my first large machine right here in Phoenix. I feel grateful; to Governor Hunt and others for what they have done for me and to the help they have given in securing protection I might not otherwise have had, and I am desirous of demonstrating this gratitude. I am going back to Florence today to resume the serving of my sentence, which will expire in 10 months. Then, here in Phoenix, I will begin the work of making my machines." (Technology World Magazine, 1912)
Roy J. Meyers: Absorber (Atmospheric Electrical Generator)

I want all those poor inventors to rise from the dust of oblivion... If we could have 10 of them working together, what would be impossible ?

[Mario]

Hi all,

this is what I found on the net, in the first link there's also a patent of such a setup. I have no idea if this is true stuff, just wanted to share the info. Of course there's nothing like building one to find out...

Directory:Charles (Chuck) Pierce's "Regen" Self-Looped Motor-Generator System - PESWiki

evert rotor tech

Tilley - Wilson Machine as secret? - KeelyNet 01/12/03

Mario

[Farmhand]

Here's a link to the thread at OU.com and a screen capture I took, I agree
with the guys there about the cable under the board, my original suspicion
of the white box may just be a distraction or could be to provide
a "just running with light load anywhere capability:.

OU link.
Self Running Motor Generator - for sale in 3 weeks

Regardless the board under the legs is suspicious and boards don't float with
that kind of weight on them, the device does not wobble so something is
under the board holding it up off the ground, most likely a cable.

The desire to produce apparent self running devices is great. Apparently it
overrides people honesty. The demo is a farce.

Cheers

[ewizard]

Everyone please take a look at this. It is an explanation why there can be Over Unity in the Flyweel:
Flywheel

[ewizard]

Here's a link to the thread at OU.com and a screen capture I took, I agree
with the guys there about the cable under the board, my original suspicion
of the white box may just be a distraction or could be to provide
a "just running with light load anywhere capability:.

OU link.
Self Running Motor Generator - for sale in 3 weeks

Regardless the board under the legs is suspicious and boards don't float with
that kind of weight on them, the device does not wobble so something is
under the board holding it up off the ground, most likely a cable.

The desire to produce apparent self running devices is great. Apparently it
overrides people honesty. The demo is a farce.

Cheers

Firstly your assumption about the white box (the one with HV insulators) is IMO incorrect. You can see several of the same exact units on his bench (in this or the other video he has). I suspect they are HV transformers used in Romania for stepdown to house voltages. I also notice a couple high end inverters in the background including a Trace (now Xantrex) 4000 watt true sine wave inverter. Not that it proves anything except probably that this guy is serious about being independent of the grid. I also think your assumption about the board is not substantial evidence of fraud. His floor is very unevenly finished and to me it just looks like a shadow under the board. I originally thought it was a dirt floor but tinu pointed out it is concrete as I saw after watching his second video. It is clearly unfloated very rough finished concrete and appears very uneven. He probably needed to boards on that frame just to keep it from wobbling on the uneven floor. So it's my opinion that your picture proves nothing. I'll concede they guy might be making a scam but nothing yet IMO proves that. It's apparent now having read tinu's post on OU that he has a very small operation and needs 60% up front to build any one a unit and that can take a couple months. That in itself leaves me concerned about his credibility. If I had what he claims I would do everything possible to get at least one or two units built and ready to sell and demo. Unless he gets local people interested who can validate this really works I doubt he will do much business selling them.

[indio007]

Let's use some common sense people. If this was not a scam he would be already off the grid using it to power his household appliances.
He could make a fortune simply recharging batteries or reversing his meter and getting paid from the local electric company.

Confirmation bias - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

[ewizard]

Let's use some common sense people. If this was not a scam he would be already off the grid using it to power his household appliances.
He could make a fortune simply recharging batteries or reversing his meter and getting paid from the local electric company.

Confirmation bias - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

What makes you think he is not already off grid. I see two huge inverters in his shop. The Trace inverter alone is enough to run a home other than large air conditioners. From what I saw he's got enough in the way of inverters there to even handle air conditioning. Just to give you an idea of what he's got there - that one inverter rated at 4000 watts continuous weight 140 pounds. That's not some over rated hyped ebay inverter that could barely handle half it's rating. It's made to handle real power demand in running a home.