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  • #31
    I think of it as being kind of like a house, if we keep very vigilant and keep
    cleaning all the time we probably do not need to "spring clean" the house, but if
    we get a bit slack and allow the dust, dirt and stuff to build up, then eventually
    the house will be uninhabitable until it is cleaned. Nothing wrong with the house
    it is the apathy of the inhabitants that causes a need for an emergency house
    clean due to untenable situation of infestation or just neglect to keep clean.

    I am a bit of the latter because I have no one to complain at me, but I still need
    to get serious and clean house every now and then. There are merits and flaws
    to both systems of cleaning house.

    Cleaning house every day hides the sources of dirt and scum somewhat, allowing
    it to build up shows a clear picture of what needs particular attention in order to
    be able to do less cleaning in the future.

    If the house is never cleaned then eventually it will be uninhabitable.

    We have to clean our own house, unless we pay someone to do it for us.

    Some would say the best way to clean parliament house would be with
    Madame Guillotine. Not my personal opinion but many do hold it. I would prefer
    they were made to do some real work to produce something of use.

    ..

    There may be times when a house infested with certain diseases might need
    to be burned down for the greater good.

    ..
    Last edited by Farmhand; 01-03-2014, 06:59 AM.

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    • #32
      Originally posted by jdodson View Post
      Governance.




      Spain has an elected Senate and Congress which can pass laws and change their constitution. The people of spain are the government. Why exactly does that "irk" you?
      I am British but devoted 24 years of my life here (working). The system is wrong because a democratic government is not a government that has controlling votes (more than 50%), that becomes a dictatorship, nothing more and nothing less. To be correct an in power government should have no more than 49% voting right with the balance made up of at least two other parties, that would be a democratic party, one that gives the broader spectrum of the wishes of the people of that country, THE SYSTEM IS PLAIN WRONG AND SHOULD BE CHANGED

      I could go on and on, it just makes me sick to see over 5 million men, women and children with no roof over their head and no food, and nearly 6 million without work (which is really much much more, just not in the government statistics) in a population total of 45 million.

      Nuf said

      Mike

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      • #33
        Mike
        I´m Spanish, and agree 100% with you.
        It is the whole representation system which is wrong.
        The people IS NOT the government, it has never been from the last republic back to 1936.
        This is our legacy from 40 years of dictatorship, and its strong influence at the time of writing the present constitution.
        The two main party are totally reluctant to change it as it has allowed them to govern from the beginning, and suck the country wealth for themselves and their banker friends.
        Nothing will be changed if we are not brave enough to change this obsolete constitution.
        The consciousness level of "we the people" is quickly growing up. It will reach sooner than later the critical mass.
        Hope so

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        • #34
          Originally posted by interdesign21 View Post
          Mike
          I´m Spanish, and agree 100% with you.
          It is the whole representation system which is wrong.
          The people IS NOT the government, it has never been from the last republic back to 1936.
          This is our legacy from 40 years of dictatorship, and its strong influence at the time of writing the present constitution.
          The two main party are totally reluctant to change it as it has allowed them to govern from the beginning, and suck the country wealth for themselves and their banker friends.
          Nothing will be changed if we are not brave enough to change this obsolete constitution.
          The consciousness level of "we the people" is quickly growing up. It will reach sooner than later the critical mass.
          Hope so
          It has taken it's time and still a ways to go I think

          I am in Valencia, where are you? PM me if you don't want to post it here

          centraflow@gmail.com

          Yo hablo castellano tambien, no problema pero en escrito no tan bien

          saludos

          Mike
          Last edited by Michael John Nunnerley; 01-04-2014, 12:10 PM.

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          • #35
            Hi all,
            If you really want to know why Spain is in trouble, you open your eyes and ears to Afra Raymond TedX talk Afra Raymond: Three myths about corruption | Video on TED.com
            Afra not only tells you why, but offers a way to become involved that might bring about change. Be informed and act. Spain is one of many countries who find themselves struggling at this time, and it is all because of CORRUPTION by the monied elite in the world.

            I pray for you because I care.

            Your friend, Gene

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            • #36
              Originally posted by gene gene View Post
              Hi all,
              If you really want to know why Spain is in trouble, you open your eyes and ears to Afra Raymond TedX talk Afra Raymond: Three myths about corruption | Video on TED.com
              Afra not only tells you why, but offers a way to become involved that might bring about change. Be informed and act. Spain is one of many countries who find themselves struggling at this time, and it is all because of CORRUPTION by the monied elite in the world.

              I pray for you because I care.

              Your friend, Gene
              Gene thanks,

              corruption is the problem all over the world, it is like the sales pyramid (pyramid selling), the most corrupt are the most wealthy at the top, they are sick, I really mean that, or they would not continue to obtain more and more money, for what? they can have the best of everything the world can give for a fraction of what they have. It is corruption to gain power, power is their drug, their heroin, and they will and have killed to get it.

              I am so angry at the moment that I frighten myself as to what I might do.

              Your friend too

              Mike

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              • #37
                Mike
                I sent u 2 mails
                kind regards
                Alvaro

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by interdesign21 View Post
                  Mike
                  I sent u 2 mails
                  kind regards
                  Alvaro
                  Sorry

                  get back to you when I can, a bit busy here at the moment

                  regards

                  Mike

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